Guest Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Mourinho is nowhere near Sir Alex imo. As you say, Ferguson had the ability to produce a team, then adapt and change...Mourinho seems to need the quick fix solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisdom Body Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Real Madrid broke him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Mourinho will never equal in a dozen seasons what Ancelotti managed in his first one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Bet he ends up at PSG within 2 seasons. Rinse & repeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 He's pretty rigid in approach which doesn't help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 12, 2015 Share Posted September 12, 2015 Can't wait for him to fuck off and retire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 http://i.imgur.com/58upBGR.jpg If I had my mouse, I'd cut him out and onto the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 This dude talking bout computers, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I'm in the process of reading the book about his time at Madrid, and some of his behaviour when under pressure or facing defeat was quite bizarre. There could well be parallels here. A lot of his behaviour reminded me of the stories about Brian Clough. Both went in for a lot of psychological manipulation, where they'd do anything to generate strong emotion in the players, with it be positive motivation to live up to praise, or negative emotion to prove him wrong. A lot of what they said, in public or private, was rubbish but designed to produce an effect. Their success can't be denied, but you wonder whether certain problems come in the wake of those methods. Eventually some players might get fed up with it, or that it has less effect with familiarity. There's also the potential problem of Mourinho losing his grip, and his becoming unable to distinguish between theatre that he creates and reality. Of course it may be simpler, and after all the success he simply can't deal with being number 2. He couldn't cope with Barca, and it looks like he's struggling to cope with Man City. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Disagree that he wasn't able to cope with Barca. IMO he "beat" Pep mentally, Pep took a sabbatical. He won the La Liga in Pep's last season. Jose won. The problem was that it was over. The enemy had been defeated. Us vs. them was no more. Nothing else to fight. Ended fighting his own players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 He didn't "beat" Pep ffs, he was always leaving at that time, it's not like be ran away from Mourinho or something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Disagree that he wasn't able to cope with Barca. IMO he "beat" Pep mentally, Pep took a sabbatical. He won the La Liga in Pep's last season. Jose won. The problem was that it was over. The enemy had been defeated. Us vs. them was no more. Nothing else to fight. Ended fighting his own players. They beat Pep's Barca one time in 90 mins, which was the final Clasico Also Pep said before the season started he was going to leave, had f*** all to do with Jose. http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/detail/article/ninth-victory-for-guardiola-against-real-madrid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Disagree that he wasn't able to cope with Barca. IMO he "beat" Pep mentally, Pep took a sabbatical. He won the La Liga in Pep's last season. Jose won. The problem was that it was over. The enemy had been defeated. Us vs. them was no more. Nothing else to fight. Ended fighting his own players. They beat Pep's Barca one time in 90 mins, which was the final Clasico Also Pep said before the season started he was going to leave, had f*** all to do with Jose. http://www.fcbarcelona.com/football/first-team/detail/article/ninth-victory-for-guardiola-against-real-madrid TCD is great though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 So you guys are telling me that TCD was wrong? I don't want to live in this world!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Winning that title was a great achievement mind, taking the title from that Pep team was no easy feat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Oh no doubt, but the idea he broke him or that he wasn't completely dominated during those years is bogus. Pep was weird that season though, experimenting with shit that made no sense like some 343 diamond with Pique being the only CB and Xavi, Thiago, Fabregas and Iniesta being a narrow 4 He does that now as well tbh, but in Germany you get away with it naturally. Still though Madrid were awesome that year, absolutely no doubt about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 So you guys are telling me that TCD was wrong? I don't want to live in this world!! It's a poor world when TCD isn't right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 Dat Messi goal in that horrible Champions League semi final against Real Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I still believe Jose took winning La Liga and Pep leaving as a gigantic win. He didn't create that us vs them spirit in his 3rd RM season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I also think Jose was slightly obsessed with Pep. And it got to Pep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I really like him. He's an obsessive winner and does and says shit only he can really answer for or explain but it's all about his obsession with being great and remembered forever - be it for better or worse. He loves himself far too much for many people's liking and says some awful things about people or his opponents but he's one of my favorites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shush Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I quite like Mourinho. I find him like a pantomime character. When it's going well he plays arrogant, makes it about him and takes all the pressure off the players. Problem is, when it goes wrong, which is rare, he can't deflect it. He then claims some silly things or shows frustration. As a neutral its funny to watch either way. Not sure what all the hate to him is about for some, but of course each to their own. The only thing I don't like about him is he can go very anti-football at times. The way Inter Milan won the Champions League under him was really squirmy, Barcelona were the deserved winners on paper. I can't see him leaving unless it unfolds terribly across the next 5 games, but I think he's too good to let that happen and there's too many good players at his disposal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I really like him. He's an obsessive winner and does and says shit only he can really answer for or explain but it's all about his obsession with being great and remembered forever - be it for better or worse. He loves himself far too much for many people's liking and says some awful things about people or his opponents but he's one of my favorites. I honestly can't fathom somebody having this opinion. He plays shit football, says some awful things about people, talks loads of shite, eye gouges people, sacks people for doing their job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 I'm with Triggs on this, like. Awful football, awful coward of a man. Imagine throwing your female physio under the bus like that in public, man. Slime. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 what really bugs me is the way the english media have fawned over him and buy into his bullshit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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