Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 23, 2009 Share Posted October 23, 2009 Is there a better academy right now than Barcelona's? They could field one hell of a team based on players they have produced. Clairefontaine. Although it is not actually a club I suppose. I think Cesc is better than Iniesta personally. He's younger an does more with less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Is there a better academy right now than Barcelona's? They could field one hell of a team based on players they have produced. FourFourTwo did a great article on Barcelona's cantera a while back. It's incredible to think which players were moulded there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Is there a better academy right now than Barcelona's? They could field one hell of a team based on players they have produced. FourFourTwo did a great article on Barcelona's cantera a while back. It's incredible to think which players were moulded there beginning to get like ajax in the early 70's then again in the 80's and that french national academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Is there a better academy right now than Barcelona's? They could field one hell of a team based on players they have produced. FourFourTwo did a great article on Barcelona's cantera a while back. It's incredible to think which players were moulded there beginning to get like ajax in the early 70's then again in the 80's and that french national academy. in fact, they recently did a feature on Boca Juniors' academy. the same applies to them, but its not quite as good as barca's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 I don't think we have that a big amount of talent in our youth ranks, but always thought we do a pretty good job of developing them. Madrid has actually a great setup with many promising players, but they just won't get a game there. Cesc has been raised in the English box-to-box midfielder mould, and he's more direct due to the way you play up there. Iniesta and Xavi are more specialists. I'd still pick them over Cesc any day of the week but it's not outrageous to think that Cesc can be better, and he's younger. Iniesta doesn't rake the amount of assists that Xavi does, and he doesn't really score much (nor does Xavi), but the way he creates openings and sustains possession in the last third is amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 U20 WC topscorer Dominic Adiyiah is on his way to AC Milan. Fredrikstad and Milan have agreed a deal worth £1,1mill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 He wasn't even playing for the Fredrikstad first-team before the U20s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Is there a better academy right now than Barcelona's? They could field one hell of a team based on players they have produced. FourFourTwo did a great article on Barcelona's cantera a while back. It's incredible to think which players were moulded there beginning to get like ajax in the early 70's then again in the 80's and that french national academy. in fact, they recently did a feature on Boca Juniors' academy. the same applies to them, but its not quite as good as barca's. They were quite mocking about one x-Boca player a lad called Coloccini iirc Boca, Ajax & Barca all being the biggest clubs or 2nd biggest in there county helps them out big time but what came across in 442 is that there are many part timers who put the hours in to see loads of young footballers for Boca & Barca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 Is there a better academy right now than Barcelona's? They could field one hell of a team based on players they have produced. FourFourTwo did a great article on Barcelona's cantera a while back. It's incredible to think which players were moulded there beginning to get like ajax in the early 70's then again in the 80's and that french national academy. in fact, they recently did a feature on Boca Juniors' academy. the same applies to them, but its not quite as good as barca's. They were quite mocking about one x-Boca player a lad called Coloccini iirc wonder whatever happened to him! well they'll not all turn out to be hits. but only recently theyve had gago, banega, tevez, palacio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooneyToonArmy Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Vieri to play for Paulistão side in Brazil for Botafogo-SP Not the more famous club Botafogo Rio either.......the Botafogo that signed Vieri is this minor São Paulo team http://globoesporte.globo.com/Esportes/Noticias/Futebol/0,,MUL1357836-9825,00-VIERI+RECUA+NA+APOSENTADORIA+E+VAI+JOGAR+O+PAULISTAO+PELO+BOTAFOGO+DE+RIBEI.html Francesco Coco also on the verge of signing for them too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 They were quite mocking about one x-Boca player a lad called Coloccini iirc His dad was the coach i think, sure that was the basis of it iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Griffin to Boro on loan ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Also didn't realise Henrik Larsson had retired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Ben Amos to Posh for a month as Joe Lewis is suspended. Cheating Ferguson cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Ben Amos to Posh for a month as Joe Lewis is suspended. Cheating Ferguson c***s. What's the matter with that like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Ben Amos to Posh for a month as Joe Lewis is suspended. Cheating Ferguson c***s. What's the matter with that like? Burnip has anger issues when he's on the internet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Ben Amos to Posh for a month as Joe Lewis is suspended. Cheating Ferguson c***s. What's the matter with that like? Kinda defeats the point of a suspension really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 So you think when a team loses a player to suspension they shouldn't be allowed to get cover? Interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/03/michael-turner-adam-pearson-hull Pearson said there had been "no necessity" to sell Turner in August to raise funds. He said the defender was sold for £4m, with 33% of the fee going to the defender's former clubs Brentford and Charlton, who have since called on the Premier League to investigate the sums involved in the deal given the player's previously publicised valuation. What an incredible piece of business Sunderland have done !!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/nov/03/michael-turner-adam-pearson-hull Pearson said there had been "no necessity" to sell Turner in August to raise funds. He said the defender was sold for £4m, with 33% of the fee going to the defender's former clubs Brentford and Charlton, who have since called on the Premier League to investigate the sums involved in the deal given the player's previously publicised valuation. What an incredible piece of business Sunderland have done !!? unless of course sunderland did pay the sum originally publicised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Ben Amos to Posh for a month as Joe Lewis is suspended. Cheating Ferguson c***s. What's the matter with that like? Kinda defeats the point of a suspension really. Does it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 Ben Amos to Posh for a month as Joe Lewis is suspended. Cheating Ferguson c***s. What's the matter with that like? Kinda defeats the point of a suspension really. Does it? Yes So you think when a team loses a player to suspension they shouldn't be allowed to get cover? Interesting. Yes. Suspending a player is designed to punish the team, it hardly punishes the team if you get Daddy to loan you his England U20 international goalkeeper. I'm not saying that there is anything feasible that could be done to stop it, but suspensions should harm your team and I'm not sure this does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted November 3, 2009 Share Posted November 3, 2009 So, losing your first choice keeper isn't a punishment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2009/nov/05/boltonwanderers-premierleague Bolton Wanderers' losses count the cost of Premier League survival The financial figures published by Bolton Wanderers yesterday for the year to 30 June 2009 itemise the bewildering contradiction at the heart of the Premier League's boom years. Vast amounts of money are pouring in – fortunes more than can ever have been imagined when struggling Bolton allowed the Normid supermarket to be built into one end of Burnden Park as a desperate 1980s economy measure – yet most clubs are losing millions and falling further into debt. Bolton finished 13th last season, and the fact that this is their ninth on the trot in the Premier League is described justifiably by the chairman, Phil Gartside as "a fantastic achievement for Bolton Wanderers". Yet the accounts lay bare the cost of doing so: Wanderers' parent company, Burnden Leisure, made £59m last year, a huge turnover at the Reebok Stadium for a provincial town football club, yet paid wages of £40.9m and lost £13.2m. This, according to Gartside, is the price of Premier League survival for the smaller clubs, the massive wages paid to players at the top clubs trickle down, becoming unpayable for those paddling to stay up. With a wage bill on that scale, and net debts of £64m, relegation down across the financial chasm to the Championship terrifies Bolton and others in a similar position who, like Portsmouth and Hull City, are perennially tempted to overspend. Gartside acknowledged in the accounts a "fear factor beginning to emerge amongst Premier League clubs outside the top few". Bolton's ability to operate with thumping losses and meaty borrowings is due to the backing of the club's owner, one of the lowest profile among the roster of rich men who have over recent years folded Premier League football clubs into their portfolios. Edwin Davies, who made his fortune manufacturing thermostatic controls for kettles, lives in the Isle of Man, one of the less sun-kissed of the British protectorate tax havens. Davies is described by Bolton as a "benefactor" and he did put solid money into the club when he bought up his 94.5% stake in 2004. These accounts show that he has made his latest contribution in huge loans which charge a rate of interest handy for him in current economic conditions. Davies's company, Moonshift Investments, loaned Wanderers £23m last year, at 10% annual interest, so the football club paid Moonshift £2m "in respect of arrangement and guarantee fees and interest". Gartside, in the accounts, said: "I would like to acknowledge the special contribution of our owner Eddie Davies, for his ongoing support in [overhauling Wanderers' playing squad] and other investments in the club." That tribute is heartfelt, because Gartside knows Bolton would most likely be nowhere near the Premier League, and possibly in serious financial difficulty, without Davies. Yet the owner's support, like membership of the World's Greatest League, comes at a cost for the Trotters. Honestly, I still think Sam Allardyce would have been a great success in Newcastle United should he was afforded proper time. Bolton are fucked. The quicker they dispense with Gary Megson the better. Megson is just not good enough. Bolton and Newcastle's loss - Blackburn's gain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 What made you think Allardyce would have been a great success for us? Many of the useless high earners were signed under his jurisdiction and we played football that rarely looked like getting us a result. Also, what do you mean by success? Just not getting relegated? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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