Baggio Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Joe Kinnear wants to make West Ham's Matthew Upson his first signing at Newcastle United and there is quiet confidence at St James' Park that, with West Ham facing financial difficulties, Newcastle will be able to prise the 29-year-old England centre-back away from Upton Park. Kinnear spoke last week about having the funds from owner Mike Ashley to sanction two £6m signings, but it would take more than £6m to get Upson. However, with West Ham manager Gianfranco Zola being told that he will be able to re-invest a certain amount to shape a new squad, Newcastle could possibly offer £8m to make the transfer happen. West Ham will be keen to lose Upson's salary, if not the player. Newcastle also have a long-standing interest in Blackburn's Stephen Warnock but even this theoretical recruitment process is evidence of Ashley's willingness to hear Kinnear's views and according to Kinnear, Michael Owen will not be leaving the club in January. "No chance," he said yesterday. Kinnear is less optimistic though that Owen will remain at Newcastle after his contract expires at the end of the season. "I am not that confident to be honest," he said."I will sit down with Michael on Tuesday. I'm pretty confident about everyone else but Michael is a different kettle of fish." Owen, 29 tomorrow, is one of seven players whose contracts have been allowed to run down but Kinnear said that four of the players – Owen, Nicky Butt, Shola Ameobi and Steve Harper – will receive new offers on Monday. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-target-pound8m-upson-1064415.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrette Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Rather you worked on the centre-midfield, Joe. Plus he's not getting any younger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 My general distaste for Kinnear means i'm going to nitpick and scrutinise everything he does. I'm not even gonna deny that, i'd call it human. But that's just a load of bollocks Lowndsy man. For one thing, i'd probably prefer it if Joe Kinnear didn't buy anyone. I don't trust his judgement and i don't like the idea of him spending our money. I concede that that's slightly off the point, but i - without doubt - would prefer it if our management team said zilch about our targets, rather than loads about our targets. He must have named four+ individual targets in public. You just don't do it as far as i'm concerned; it hinders your chances of getting them/getting them for the 'right' price. 100% agree on all counts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Where's Jon to tell us how injury prone Upson is!? He's missed 73 minutes of football all season and has played 90 minutes for Engerland as well. Fuck sending these players to Steadman, all they need is for me to state they are too injury prone to sign for us and watch them play more games the next season than they ever have managed before (see also Woodgate) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 My general distaste for Kinnear means i'm going to nitpick and scrutinise everything he does. I'm not even gonna deny that, i'd call it human. But that's just a load of bollocks Lowndsy man. For one thing, i'd probably prefer it if Joe Kinnear didn't buy anyone. I don't trust his judgement and i don't like the idea of him spending our money. I concede that that's slightly off the point, but i - without doubt - would prefer it if our management team said zilch about our targets, rather than loads about our targets. He must have named four+ individual targets in public. You just don't do it as far as i'm concerned; it hinders your chances of getting them/getting them for the 'right' price. 100% agree on all counts me too.. that'd be an awful decision. We can bring in Cannavaro and it still would be a marginal improvement in the team, because it's blindingly fucking obvious that we lose our games in midfield. On top of that I really don't rate Upson, and 7 million? awful, awful decision.. please don't let it be true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Not Matt Upson We don't need to waste money on centre backs when we have 3 (four if you count Beye) good ones already :colo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowndsy Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 wonder if we push :colo: into midfield and put upson at the bak with bassong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 wonder if we push :colo: into midfield and put upson at the bak with bassong? Would be a good move I think, I can't see it happening though as Kinnear would have moved him into midfield against Stoke I would have thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 It will be interesting to see what happens with Upson as the last player .com mentioned that nobody else had picked up on was guthrie and he signed. they also said deco and rivaldo in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 It will be interesting to see what happens with Upson as the last player .com mentioned that nobody else had picked up on was guthrie and he signed. they also said deco and rivaldo in the past. And Distin in Jan 05. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 It will be interesting to see what happens with Upson as the last player .com mentioned that nobody else had picked up on was guthrie and he signed. they also said deco and rivaldo in the past. And Distin in Jan 05. We did move for Distin though didn't we? Pretty sure Souness confirmed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 It will be interesting to see what happens with Upson as the last player .com mentioned that nobody else had picked up on was guthrie and he signed. they also said deco and rivaldo in the past. And Distin in Jan 05. We did move for Distin though didn't we? Pretty sure Souness confirmed it. Must be true then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 It will be interesting to see what happens with Upson as the last player .com mentioned that nobody else had picked up on was guthrie and he signed. they also said deco and rivaldo in the past. And Distin in Jan 05. We did move for Distin though didn't we? Pretty sure Souness confirmed it. Must be true then. Man City confirmed it too so I take it it's true. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-weigh-up-kuffour-move-as-city-reject-distin-bid-495719.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 In fairness, i trust the likes of Nufc.com over pretty much anyone else when it comes to ITKs. I have a feeling they picked up on Emre before a lot of the national press did so aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 It will be interesting to see what happens with Upson as the last player .com mentioned that nobody else had picked up on was guthrie and he signed. they also said deco and rivaldo in the past. And Distin in Jan 05. We did move for Distin though didn't we? Pretty sure Souness confirmed it. Must be true then. Man City confirmed it too so I take it it's true. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/newcastle-weigh-up-kuffour-move-as-city-reject-distin-bid-495719.html Like I said, must be true then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sondre Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Any news on that Fabian Delph?!?!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 why on earth are we going after a LB? Warnock, Mareque and that guy from Hearts! Don't bloody need a LB, Joe! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I really hope that all the signings Kinnear makes are loans, that's how little I trust his transfer nous. If they're good, - great and we can hopefully buy them. If not, they can fuck right off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 why on earth are we going after a LB? Warnock, Mareque and that guy from Hearts! Don't bloody need a LB, Joe! Eh? Are you joking? I'd say that's probably the weakest part of the entire team, both in terms of numbers AND quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 why on earth are we going after a LB? Warnock, Mareque and that guy from Hearts! Don't bloody need a LB, Joe! Eh? Are you joking? I'd say that's probably the weakest part of the entire team, both in terms of numbers AND quality. Would like to see us go for a central midfielder first. but yeah, could do with another LB actually (Was thinking of Bassong as cover, but wouldn't move him out of CD now) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 I'd love us to get Mark Noble. Realistic target, probably available for around £4m - and in my opinion a great replacement for Butt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Upson, Warnock and Noble would be very good additions to our squad but I couldn't see any of them happening unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Upson, Warnock and Noble would be very good additions to our squad but I couldn't see any of them happening unfortunately. Why hasn't Noble been getting a game lately? Injured? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Upson, Warnock and Noble would be very good additions to our squad but I couldn't see any of them happening unfortunately. I could see all three happening in all honesty. Upson: Apparently one of WHU's biggest earners, and we all know they're in financial trouble. Warnock: Ince is a twat and if they keep going the way they're going (no win in 10 and Warnock getting played at CM out of position) he might want to leave. Noble: Zola said he didn't want to sell any of his 'key' players - for me that would suggest Upson, Ashton, Bellamy and Green. Noble isn't even a nailed on starter these days and flits from starter to bench. Could easily see him leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Upson, Warnock and Noble would be very good additions to our squad but I couldn't see any of them happening unfortunately. I could see all three happening in all honesty. Upson: Apparently one of WHU's biggest earners, and we all know they're in financial trouble. Warnock: Ince is a twat and if they keep going the way they're going (no win in 10 and Warnock getting played at CM out of position) he might want to leave. Noble: Zola said he didn't want to sell any of his 'key' players - for me that would suggest Upson, Ashton, Bellamy and Green. Noble isn't even a nailed on starter these days and flits from starter to bench. Could easily see him leaving. I don't see why any would sign for us, for starters, and I don't believe we'd have the cash to get 2 of them, let alone 3... then would we pay Upson's wages, etc.? No chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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