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He's talking bollocks man.

 

I'm sick of the "I'm sat up here on my high horse. Oh you naive little fools, how wrong you are and right I am" attitude. There's no proof that it was a PR exercise, other than sayso and rumour.

 

As far as the official line goes, we rejected a bid, Carroll handed in a transfer request and so we had to go back and accept the Liverpool bid.

 

Because it makes complete sense to trust what they feed you regardless of their dodgy history of feeding people pigshit

 

Aslong as we can call it the official line, who cares who writes it. Genius.

 

What? Because it makes more sense to completely make up the suggestion that Ashley forced Carroll to hand in a transfer request? Aye whatever :rolleyes:

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We'd have to be mental to reject £35m for any of our players, none of them are worth that.

 

If Carroll's handed in a transfer request, which is what everyone's saying, then even if you're mental enough to think he's worth that kind of money, you still can't seriously be blaming the club, can you!?!

 

SSN are saying that we initially rejected the £35m and it was only when he handed in the transfer request that we accepted it.

 

You've got to be unbelievably one-eyed to not think this is not in the club's best interests and surely what's in the club's best interests is ultimately what we all want as NUFC fans, isn't it?

Agree with most of your post, I really don't think going into the last months of the season with a strikeforce of Ameobi, Best, Lövenkrands and Ranger is in the best interest of the club. It would have been far better to keep Carroll the rest of the season and sell him for £25m in the summer.

 

It's not, however that's a related, but separate issue. I really hope we managed to get someone decent in, even if it's on loan, but we do have some time to sort that out and because of that I think they had to go with it. If it had been literally a last minute thing then you'd probably be right to say that it would have been better to wait 'til the summer, but as it is I think it's a risk they had to take, hopefully they'll manage to get someone in.

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At least 57% of the people on this board (who voted) have fallen for a classic PR exercise.

 

you're not going to criticise carroll for being part of the plot to mislead nufc fans, then??

 

He's not the mastermind.

 

But you a gree with the theory, so that means you believe carroll sold out NUFC fans for a bit of money.

 

No shit. And it's not a 'bit of money'. It's a huge sum. And it doesn't jeopardise his relationship with the people that he actually cares about. You think Carroll gives a fuck about the average football fan? Come on, this is not a movie.

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He could have been a legend here. No doubt imo that he will become a great and will be the future of the England team, winning medals, trophies and playing for the top top teams. But he really could have been a legend here. Something i honestly think he'll look back on at the end of his career and regret.

 

what like Shearer? scoring loads and winning f*** all? If anything the Shearer phenomenon should tell Carroll to get a move to a club with a genuine chance of silverware.

 

That isn't Liverpool.

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He could have been a legend here. No doubt imo that he will become a great and will be the future of the England team, winning medals, trophies and playing for the top top teams. But he really could have been a legend here. Something i honestly think he'll look back on at the end of his career and regret.

 

what like Shearer? scoring loads and winning fuck all? If anything the Shearer phenomenon should tell Carroll to get a move to a club with a genuine chance of silverware.

 

Most footballers end up with fuck all in their careers.  Only a select few do.  Also liverpool will not win a trophy for a long time imo.

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At least 57% of the people on this board (who voted) have fallen for a classic PR exercise.

 

you're not going to criticise carroll for being part of the plot to mislead nufc fans, then??

 

He's not the mastermind.

 

But you a gree with the theory, so that means you believe carroll sold out NUFC fans for a bit of money.

 

No s***. And it's not a 'bit of money'. It's a huge sum. And it doesn't jeopardise his relationship with the people that he actually cares about. You think Carroll gives a f*** about the average football fan? Come on, this is not a movie.

 

The shit you're spouting certainly sounds like one.  Just get over the fact the best thing to come out of Newcastle football wise is getting the fuck out for good. 

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I think it's pure (and therefore pointless) speculation as to what exact roles Ashley, Carroll, Pardew etc have played in the unfolding and public presentation of this deal. In my opinion, I think the crucial point is that, for a club in our position, 35 million quid is simply too much money to turn down for a volatile personality like Carroll, whose potential may or may not ever be realised (personally, I still have my doubts, although I realise that these doubts are not shared by many).

 

Providing we can survive in the PL this season, and then invest (even half of) this money astutely - in Enriques, Tiote, Ben Arfe, and Bassong type deals - then I don't believe this will prove to have been a bad piece of business. We should end up with a much deeper squad, which could hopefully push for a top six place, without relying on freakish good luck with injuries. Once we've consolidated a top six spot over two or three seasons, then we might begin to think about having 40 million quid players in our squad, or in our sights, but in my opinion we're nowhere near that stage right now.  

 

Will the current regime follow the path that I've outlined above? Possibly not, perhaps even probably not, but then if they're irretrievably fucked then whether we kept Carroll or not in this transfer window was never going to be decisive.    

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apropos of nothing

 

And he faces a two-day FA hearing in London on February 16 and 17 to settle a row with agent Peter Harrison.

 

 

Tyneside-based Harrison says he has Carroll under contract until March and is owed a fee from the five-year deal signed in October.

 

 

But the star insists he told Harrison he was switching to rival agent Mark Curtis more than a year ago.

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After all this club has done for him, after what Nolan and his family went through for him.... bet the squad are furious.

 

Should deffos be interesting to hear what the likes of Nolan and Barton have to say about it. Nolan really stuck his neck out for nothing.

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Why hand in a transfer request now? He could easily move any time. Surely he'd stay at his boyhood club as the new #9 for a few more years? I can't see what is in it for him.

 

Especially when handing in a trasfer request would effectively bar him ever returning.

 

Unfuckingbelievable. :no:

 

It would bar him from partying in Newcastle. Boo fucking hoo. As if that's a big fucking deal. His family will still love him, his mates will still be mates with him, and I bet you that's going to be the case. And no one will give him shit when he's shopping for groceries in Tescos.

 

Look if I ever felt uncomfortable returning to Newcastle it would be absolutely devastating to me, but I did not say that.

I was talking about returning to the club he says he loves. Why would he choose to rule that out?

 

He's not. Some of our fans are quite fickle. You think if we start challenging and Liverpool hang around the top 6, their new owners leave and now all of a sudden we make a bid for him, he's going to say no because he's afraid to come back? Or that this scenario is ruled out? He'll be the white knight, coming back to help us go to the CL and win some trophies.

 

And him returning is such an unlikely scenario. The probability of it happening is so miniscule that he'd be an idiot if he took it into consideration during this whole business.

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