cp40 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 People jumping on Ashley's back aren't looking at the facts. We are getting 35m for a 21 year old, you won't find me many chairman that wouldn't have accepted that. we are getting fuck all. Ashley is getting 35 miliion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What are the conspiracy theorists going to do if Carroll doesn't come out and contradict the club's claim that he handed in a transfer request? As surely if he hasn't, he'd want to set that straight. To be fair, even if true why would he want to do that? He'd be effectively telling his new employers and their fans that he didn't want to go there. No he wouldn't, how many players leave and go to other clubs without handing in transfer requests? Do we assume all of them didn't want to be their? All he'd be doing is explaining that he didn't actually ask to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Carroll isn't half the player that Torres is. But with Carroll and Suarez they will have a top class strike force for years to come, rather than relying on Torres, who has been sulking for a long time now, to do it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Carroll isn't half the player that Torres is. You're so out of touch, man. Not even gonna bother with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone. And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Svenno Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Like Liverpool doesn't sell Torres? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What are the conspiracy theorists going to do if Carroll doesn't come out and contradict the club's claim that he handed in a transfer request? As surely if he hasn't, he'd want to set that straight. Also, can they please make their minds up about whether Ashley's an idiot or an evil genius, he' can't be both, you know. Finally, for those talking about lack of ambition. If we're lacking ambition, then what the fuck does that say about Liverpool who are getting rid of Fernando fucking Torres!!! and replacing him with Andy fucking Carroll! He'll have been paid enough money and signed enough agreements to not come out and set the record straight. Bonkers. So he hands in a transfer request and misses out on all the "loyalty" fees he would have received and he ends up better off? The only way that can be possible is if you think Ashley has paid a shit load of to keep him quiet, why would he do that? To maintain his good relationship with the fans! I thought he hated the fans, or at least doesn't care what they think, that's the accepted wisdom isn't it? Yet now he's prepared to pay out a shit load of money because he doesn't want to upset us? Yeah, righto. Like I said, you lot need to make your minds up and get your story straight. No offence, but this seems like paranoia on an epic scale to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizz energi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fuck him. If he doesn't want to play for the club then good riddance. It's a kick in the balls for all of us but shit like this is always going to happen with those clowns running the show. The team has done admirably this season so far but the rebuilding job doesn't truly start until we have new owners, whenever the hell that will be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Hope the move is as sucessful as Kieron Dyer's, in the same sort of time-frame. If you want a move pipe-up before teatime on the last day of the transfer window you fucking wanker. As for the money, we've no chance of spending any of it before the deadline tonight and by the summer transfer window it will have disappeared towards 'operating costs'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guinness_fiend Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 People jumping on Ashley's back aren't looking at the facts. We are getting 35m for a 21 year old, you won't find me many chairman that wouldn't have accepted that. we are getting f*** all. Ashley is getting 35 miliion Yep, it's going right in his back pocket. Half wit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 I would normally blame Ashley, but this time its Carroll that must be taken out for shooting. By the looks of it we turned down bids prior to this not far from Liverpool's price, yet his is now on his way to becoming a Liverpool player after handing in a transfer request- WEEKS after saying he wants to spend the rest of his career at SJP. Liar. Greedy. He's an absolute traitor. About as much as a Geordie as Steve Bruce, ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 David villa cost 34m tweeps....integral member of successful spain team and played regular CL...UK market is crazy right now! Ferdinand in talking sense shocker. Not really. Villa is 29/30. Carroll is 21. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 how much are we getting now? 10 mp paid over 10 years, 10 mp after starting 100 times for Liverpool , 10 mp after 50 England caps and the last 5 mp after 100 England caps. Its £35m plus addons, not £35m of addons Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Mike Ashley Find it peculiar people are blaming Ashley for his action's today. He is insensate to the fan and media's opinion of him, so this talk of him masterminding a transfer request under duress to paint him more positively sounds like 100% grasping-at-straws bollocks. Maybe had Ashley not been such a gimp in days gone by then Carroll might not have put in a request, but that seems like a pointless avenue of speculation. Carroll With respects to Carroll, he is undoubtedly one of the greatest talents of the modern game. He is fantastic in the air, quick, powerful and good technique. He is also insanely young. So far in his life he's been a bit of a dick (a bit of an understatement). I don't know his reasons for leaving, but there are certain situations in this world where you can either be a hero or a villain... and there is, unfortunately, no grey area. When your ascendancy in his hometown has been as steep as his has been - there is only one way he will be remembered by Newcastle - as a villain. All this being said, I wouldn't be upset if he became the next Darren 'sicknote' Anderton. Us and the "mad" world of football Whether the reasons for Carroll's exit emerge or not, I always find the accusations of players being "fickle" when leaving the mouths of fans. Many Newcastle fans wrote Carroll before his career here had started for crying out loud. For those fans who aren't fickle, it is a big shame, but the sum of money is massive. I hope Ashley does reinvest it, but I fear he won't. I think we have enough about us in midfield to stay up this league (provided we don't pick up a series of unfortunate injuries) but this has certainly left a bitter taste in the mouth. That we did drive such a hard bargain gives me (false?) hope that this isn't just a sign of us being a selling club. I would love it if we could get a high calibre footballing £15-20m striker who fits in with a progressive style of plays which revolves around playing football on the deck and working with Ben Arfa. Losing Carroll is a big blow, but it presents a good, albeit enforced, opportunity to rely less on high balls by removing temptation. Couldn't agree more mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 No-one speculating on the role of the agent here.. wonder how much he's pocketed out of this deal. Not suggesting it's all down to him but it's another factor in the mix and without disrespecting Carroll too much I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Furious. Spent ages getting him rated higher for the Fifa 11 january update too. Waste of time. Cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Fuck me dont know how i feel ,stabbed in the back and in the back of my mind i KNOW A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF THAT FEE WILL BE SPENT . Judas Wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Rio struggling to get his head around the fee http://twitter.com/#!/rioferdy5 I'm still trying to get my head round the 30m fee Man Utd paid for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The_Optimistic Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Is it just me or does anyone else not think that’s this does not add up? 5:15 Andy hands in a transfer request that is immediately granted then and 5:30 a fee has been agreed? Has the club been tempted to accept the earlier bids but would feel like idiots after saying so strongly that he is not for sale? Does anyone else not think that Andy has been given a back hander to hand his request in to protect the board and understand that they had to sell him and make a tidy profit which lets face it we will not see? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 What are the conspiracy theorists going to do if Carroll doesn't come out and contradict the club's claim that he handed in a transfer request? As surely if he hasn't, he'd want to set that straight. Also, can they please make their minds up about whether Ashley's an idiot or an evil genius, he' can't be both, you know. Finally, for those talking about lack of ambition. If we're lacking ambition, then what the f*** does that say about Liverpool who are getting rid of Fernando f***ing Torres!!! and replacing him with Andy f***ing Carroll! He'll have been paid enough money and signed enough agreements to not come out and set the record straight. Bonkers. So he hands in a transfer request and misses out on all the "loyalty" fees he would have received and he ends up better off? The only way that can be possible is if you think Ashley has paid a s*** load of to keep him quiet, why would he do that? To maintain his good relationship with the fans! I thought he hated the fans, or at least doesn't care what they think, that's the accepted wisdom isn't it? Yet now he's prepared to pay out a s*** load of money because he doesn't want to upset us? Yeah, righto. Like I said, you lot need to make your minds up and get your story straight. No offence, but this seems like paranoia on an epic scale to me. Exactly. Ashley has done so much to piss us off (most recently re: Hughton). Why would he suddenly change his stance to try and stop the fans backlashing? We've been backlashing none-stop since he first bought the fucking club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObiChrisKenobi Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 No-one speculating on the role of the agent here.. wonder how much he's pocketed out of this deal. Not suggesting it's all down to him but it's another factor in the mix and without disrespecting Carroll too much I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the box. Heard his agent was Steven Taylor's Dad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Got to love the delusion of people thinking this money will be reinvested in the squad to a decent degree. I'll be stunned if we make any signing over £8m for the foreseeable future. A fee of £10m+ means big wages and then the rest of the squad want increases etc etc. Not going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If you want a move pipe-up before teatime on the last day of the transfer window you fucking wanker. That is my only strong feeling on this whole thing. If he doesn't want to play here, fine.. but he could've said something while we could have used some of the money, the tool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this. That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st? Yeah, livid. Clueless. Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone. And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened. It's Jan 09 all over again, but worse. And some are actually defending Ashley. Laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 31, 2011 Share Posted January 31, 2011 Is it just me or does anyone else not think that’s this does not add up? 5:15 Andy hands in a transfer request that is immediately granted then and 5:30 a fee has been agreed? Has the club been tempted to accept the earlier bids but would feel like idiots after saying so strongly that he is not for sale? Does anyone else not think that Andy has been given a back hander to hand his request in to protect the board and understand that they had to sell him and make a tidy profit which lets face it we will not see? The transfer request was made earlier in the afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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