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West Ham agree fee in region of £15m with Liverpool for Andy Carroll


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So are you saying we needed to sell Milner? I know we're not discussing the exact same thing, but if it's the case then it hardly helps to destroy the theory that Ashley would sell any of our players if needs be.

Yeah but milner was pretty mediocre for us anyway.

 

His price had went up dramatically during his time with us so he was hardly mediocre but if you have convinced yourself that fairplay to you.

when he had a good game he was brilliant but as a winger he was (and still is) pretty average to be fair. It was obvios when at us that he had talent, but he hardly effectivly utilised it week in week out to great effect.
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Milner was (and still is) massively overrated IMO. Selling him for the price we got for him was a great deal, and if anything shows the club's transfer policy in a good light.

 

As a central midfielder he's worth a place in the second (or maybe top) tier of teams, but as a winger he's no more than average.

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C'mon man, Ashley's profited from nearly every transfer window since he's been here, if not them all. To think that selling Andy Carroll would result it big reinvestment is silly.

 

Am amazed anyone can peddle this shit still.....

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Ashley isn't that bad in doing the transfer.  The problem was that he usually relies on the wrong person (i.e. Xisco).  The transfer under the reign of Hughton is very impressive.  HBA, Williamson and Tiote are great bargain, while Routledge did contribute a lot last year. 

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I don't think there's any set plan tbh. If it's realised we need improvement, Ashley will put the money in (within reason). If it's felt we can survive on what we have, he won't. The only issue is whether he recognises the need for said investment. That's what I feel has been his bad track record, not the fact that he just won't give us money 'cause he's a tightarse git.

 

I don't think it's to do with just balancing the books as such when it comes to signings, I just think he's been that stupid in the past that he genuinely thought what he'd invested would be enough to see us through.

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Is it me who's suddenly noticed that Gutierrez has turned into a miserable b******? He never celebrates when we score, he walks straight off the pitch when we win and in general rarely seems to smile anymore :lol: What's up Jonas?

 

It pretty much hurt the moment you realize you will never be better then you currently are, no progression what so ever.

He is a good player, but will never be top draw, which might be something he wants/wanted.

 

This is of course the reason why he isnt smiling.

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