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I'm pissed off that Liverpool will have the strikeforce I would have dreamed of having here.  Carroll wants to be a dipper so let him go and sign and hopefully his fitness will keep him away from the pitch for a few months.

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If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this.

 

That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st?

 

Yeah, livid. Clueless.

 

Carroll isn't half the player that Torres is.

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Now I know how my dad felt in the 80's when we were selling Gazza, Pedro and Waddle.

 

Absolutely sickening.

 

Gazza's the best comparison. Hardly on the scene 5 minutes and whisked off. NE5 was right when he said that it was only under Shepherd when this sort of s*** didnt happen.

 

Woodgate to Real Madrid?

 

Most thought that was a good bit of business and it turned out to be.

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What are the conspiracy theorists going to do if Carroll doesn't come out and contradict the club's claim that he handed in a transfer request? As surely if he hasn't, he'd want to set that straight.

 

Also, can they please make their minds up about whether Ashley's an idiot or an evil genius, he' can't be both, you know.

 

Finally, for those talking about lack of ambition. If we're lacking ambition, then what the fuck does that say about Liverpool who are getting rid of Fernando fucking Torres!!! :o and replacing him with Andy fucking Carroll!  :cheesy:

 

He'll have been paid enough money and signed enough agreements to not come out and set the record straight.

 

Then fuck him, why would you wan't to keep a player happy to sell his soul like that.

 

Because that means that he's no different to 99% of footballers in the world, and he's an excellent footballer and will be hard to replace. I would sell, anyway, but not now. We should have agreed everything and signed all the papers but transferred him over in the summer.

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Rio struggling to get his head around the fee

 

http://twitter.com/#!/rioferdy5

 

 

Asking how much Hernandez is worth at this point in time. Why don't we put in a bid for him? Oh, because big clubs don't sell their best players.

 

Yes they do, when the deal is right for them.

 

(Not excusing NUFC there, just making a point).

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Mike Ashley

 

Find it peculiar people are blaming Ashley for his action's today.

 

He is insensate to the fan and media's opinion of him, so this talk of him masterminding a transfer request under duress to paint him more positively sounds like 100% grasping-at-straws bollocks. :lol:

 

Maybe had Ashley not been such a gimp in days gone by then Carroll might not have put in a request, but that seems like a pointless avenue of speculation.

 

Carroll

 

With respects to Carroll, he is undoubtedly one of the greatest talents of the modern game. He is fantastic in the air, quick, powerful and good technique. He is also insanely young.

 

So far in his life he's been a bit of a dick (a bit of an understatement). I don't know his reasons for leaving, but there are certain situations in this world where you can either be a hero or a villain... and there is, unfortunately, no grey area. When your ascendancy in his hometown has been as steep as his has been - there is only one way he will be remembered by Newcastle - as a villain.

 

All this being said, I wouldn't be upset if he became the next Darren 'sicknote' Anderton.

 

Us and the "mad" world of football

 

Whether the reasons for Carroll's exit emerge or not, I always find the accusations of players being "fickle" when leaving the mouths of fans. Many Newcastle fans wrote Carroll before his career here had started for crying out loud. For those fans who aren't fickle, it is a big shame, but the sum of money is massive.

 

I hope Ashley does reinvest it, but I fear he won't. I think we have enough about us in midfield to stay up this league (provided we don't pick up a series of unfortunate injuries) but this has certainly left a bitter taste in the mouth. That we did drive such a hard bargain gives me (false?) hope that this isn't just a sign of us being a selling club.

 

I would love it if we could get a high calibre footballing £15-20m striker who fits in with a progressive style of plays which revolves around playing football on the deck and working with Ben Arfa. Losing Carroll is a big blow, but it presents a good, albeit enforced, opportunity to rely less on high balls by removing temptation.

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- Andy Carroll put in a transfer request.

 

Spin it, speculate all you like, that's the fact.

 

I wouldn't say that it's a fact just yet but it probably is and we'll know soon enough if it isn't.

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Carroll obviously has handed in a transfer request. What's behind that request is what folk are disputing.

 

Personally, I'm keen to find out from the horse's mouth what really motivated him to leave Newcastle. I can't help thinking there's a lot more to this that we don't know about (concerning his personal circumstances) that will have combined with the chance to make big bucks with a club that has in recent years had a great deal more success than we have.

 

Only then will I know how I really feel about this situation. Others have already got him hung, drawn and quartered as a Judas to the cause. Thing is, you don't know what else may have been at play here, other than money obviously...

 

Very true.

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David villa cost 34m tweeps....integral member of successful spain team and played regular CL...UK market is crazy right now!

 

Ferdinand in talking sense shocker.

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People jumping on Ashley's back aren't looking at the facts.

 

We are getting 35m for a 21 year old, you won't find me many chairman that wouldn't have accepted that.

 

 

we are getting fuck all.  Ashley is getting 35 miliion

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What are the conspiracy theorists going to do if Carroll doesn't come out and contradict the club's claim that he handed in a transfer request? As surely if he hasn't, he'd want to set that straight.

 

To be fair, even if true why would he want to do that? He'd be effectively telling his new employers and their fans that he didn't want to go there.

 

No he wouldn't, how many players leave and go to other clubs without handing in transfer requests?  Do we assume all of them didn't want to be their?  All he'd be doing is explaining that he didn't actually ask to leave.

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If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this.

 

That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st?

 

Yeah, livid. Clueless.

 

Carroll isn't half the player that Torres is.

 

But with Carroll and Suarez they will have a top class strike force for years to come, rather than relying on Torres, who has been sulking for a long time now, to do it all.

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If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this.

 

That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st?

 

Yeah, livid. Clueless.

 

Carroll isn't half the player that Torres is.

 

You're so out of touch, man. Not even gonna bother with you.

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If I were a Liverpool fan, I'd be livid with this.

 

That they're leaving the transfer window far, far stronger than they were on Jan 1st?

 

Yeah, livid. Clueless.

 

Whereas we are leaving it far weaker - currently 3 players down an dour best player gone.  And virtually all of the lower half teams have strengthened.

 

 

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What are the conspiracy theorists going to do if Carroll doesn't come out and contradict the club's claim that he handed in a transfer request? As surely if he hasn't, he'd want to set that straight.

 

Also, can they please make their minds up about whether Ashley's an idiot or an evil genius, he' can't be both, you know.

 

Finally, for those talking about lack of ambition. If we're lacking ambition, then what the fuck does that say about Liverpool who are getting rid of Fernando fucking Torres!!! :o and replacing him with Andy fucking Carroll!  :cheesy:

 

He'll have been paid enough money and signed enough agreements to not come out and set the record straight.

 

Bonkers.

 

So he hands in a transfer request and misses out on all the "loyalty" fees he would have received and he ends up better off? :lol:

 

The only way that can be possible is if you think Ashley has paid a shit load of to keep him quiet, why would he do that? To maintain his good relationship with the fans! :lol: I thought he hated the fans, or at least doesn't care what they think, that's the accepted wisdom isn't it? Yet now he's prepared to pay out a shit load of money because he doesn't want to upset us? Yeah, righto. Like I said, you lot need to make your minds up and get your story straight.

 

No offence, but this seems like paranoia on an epic scale to me.

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Fuck him. If he doesn't want to play for the club then good riddance. It's a kick in the balls for all of us but shit like this is always going to happen with those clowns running the show. The team has done admirably this season so far but the rebuilding job doesn't truly start until we have new owners, whenever the hell that will be.  :undecided:

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Hope the move is as sucessful as Kieron Dyer's, in the same sort of time-frame.

 

If you want a move pipe-up before teatime on the last day of the transfer window you fucking wanker.  As for the money, we've no chance of spending any of it before the deadline tonight and by the summer transfer window it will have disappeared towards 'operating costs'.

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People jumping on Ashley's back aren't looking at the facts.

 

We are getting 35m for a 21 year old, you won't find me many chairman that wouldn't have accepted that.

 

 

we are getting f*** all.  Ashley is getting 35 miliion

 

Yep, it's going right in his back pocket.  Half wit.

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