Mole_Toonfan Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Tbf when doesn't David Craig spout utter bullocks? it seems that he gets paid just to make up stories tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Carroll's value is only going to decrease at Liverpool. Can't see him working in Rodger's setup at all. Best time to sell him is now. After his supposed "successful" Euros. Makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brendan_Rice Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Would it be possible the stories are coming from Carroll trying to engineer a move? Well yes but everything Craig quoted from Carroll was about how much he loves it at Liverpool and doesn't want to leave, permanently anyway. Could be Carroll telling people he is being forced out... Did he not do the same thing before he left us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Would it be possible the stories are coming from Carroll trying to engineer a move? Well yes but everything Craig quoted from Carroll was about how much he loves it at Liverpool and doesn't want to leave, permanently anyway. Could be Carroll telling people he is being forced out... Did he not do the same thing before he left us? He did. I think the circumstances are different, if its true of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Carroll's value is only going to decrease at Liverpool. Can't see him working in Rodger's setup at all. Best time to sell him is now. After his supposed "successful" Euros. Makes sense. yes but Liverpool making it so clear (without Rogers even having one training session with him no less) that he's for sale will hit an already catastrophically hit transfer value even further it makes no sense in the slightest what they've done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Used properly he'll transform a shite team in to a dangerous unit, hope it's not west ham. Would certainly have him back here on previous wages and for less than £10m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Unless he has done something that has not been made public, Liverpool seem to be treating him quite harshly. And it's not too clever either as it will affect his resale value if everyone knows they are desperate to get rid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Think we'd have to play 4-4-2 primarily if we brought him back, think Ba and Cisse would both work well off him but most of our squad are better equipped to play in a 4-3-3. Just don't think he's a good fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Was talking to a Liverpool season ticket holder last night who reckons he was very good towards the end of the season and wants to see him stay on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'd agree he only seemed to get better towards the end of the season, I don't think Rodgers will use him properly mind. I think he'd do well at Milan personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Was talking to a Liverpool season ticket holder last night who reckons he was very good towards the end of the season and wants to see him stay on Couple of Liverpool fans i know have said just about the same, dont matter a jot if Brendon doesn't rate him. When Pards commented on the "grass isn't always greener" in reference to Jose and Joey, that gets a more and more spot on statement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Think we'd have to play 4-4-2 primarily if we brought him back, think Ba and Cisse would both work well off him but most of our squad are better equipped to play in a 4-3-3. Just don't think he's a good fit. Bingo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Not sure I agree with the implication from many that we're going for a 4-3-3 formation as our default for the foreseeable like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Not sure I agree with the implication from many that we're going for a 4-3-3 formation as our default for the foreseeable like. We should though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Agree, but I can't say I'm convinced that it's what Pardew believes in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'd expect we'll see a mix of the two Dave. My point was more that signing Carroll would give us less versatility to use a 4-3-3 than signing (purely as an example) a Bellamy type who can play either as part of a front two or on the flank in a 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 It'd border on mental if he abandoned it altogether after six straight wins. I do sort of agree with Dave though, i don't think we'll 'default' to the 4-3-3, but i doubt it'll be 4-4-2 either. Can see us mixing and matching all over the shop tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I'd expect we'll see a mix of the two Dave. My point was more that signing Carroll would give us less versatility to use a 4-3-3 than signing (purely as an example) a Bellamy type who can play either as part of a front two or on the flank in a 4-3-3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Agree, but I can't say I'm convinced that it's what Pardew believes in. Totally agree with you. The Everton game was a prime example of that, we had no need to revert back to 4-4-2 and we were appalling in the first half because of it. As soon as we went 4-3-3 in the second we looked a much better team. Although I do feel at teams Pardew prefers the safe option which is why I think we will see 4-4-2 quite a lot this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 We should certainly be playing 4-3-3 in games where we're "expected" to win. 4-4-2 is understandable against the better teams where we need to be more solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 I think it depends on what bigger team. If we play against say for example Arsenal. I would want to see 4-3-3 because 4-4-2 they would just outnumber in the middle and they keep possession so well enough as it is we cant afford to be outnumbered. Against say Man Utd, then yeah 4-4-2 makes sense because of how wing heavy they are. All depends on the opposition and where the strengths and weaknesses lie, but i do think like most people that 4-3-3 should be the main system because it suits the team the best quite frankly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Was talking to a Liverpool season ticket holder last night who reckons he was very good towards the end of the season and wants to see him stay on He did have a somewhat strong finish to the season so the only thing Carroll can do is to train hard and build on it. But if he's not in the manager's plans, then he should really move on to pastures new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 We've made a bid to take him back. SSN. Fuck off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Carroll back to us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 LOL Fuck me sideways Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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