Yorkie Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Excellent news that we're doing this, very pleasing to see the club pursue the youth policy. Like it matters. What do you possibly mean? Meh, i'm generalising tbh. Just feel a bit as if - whatever hope i had left - has just been thoroughly sapped with today's news about Kinnear. Aye i saw it coming but the reality of it hurts. I've always been for the academy policy so my opinion hasn't really changed on this - it's good that we've been doing it and a refreshing chance to the previous regime. We won't reap the rewards of any signing with this manager though. Yikes. I'm forming the thesis of an agenda here. Better go careful tbf. Fair enough, Kinnear hasnt inspired me at all, its yet another transistion season for us, its just good to see that there is actually good things happening at the club throuoguht the doom and gloom. When was the last time you saw the club make such an effort to look for the future of the club? Like i say, it's all just a total contradition. Whilst we're maintaining a focus on bringing young players in, we're appointing Joe f***ing Kinnear as permanent manager. As far as i'm concerned, with that clown, the future points to one direction - and that is ultimately down. Of course, by some point it'll get to breaking point and he'll have to sack him, but that doesn't represent any sort of consolation for me. If Ashley is serious, he would have chucked Kinnear, chucked Wise (no PL manager will work with that), and got someone decent in. I really, deeply wish that had happened - and signings like this one would get the credit they deserve. With things as they are though... pfft. As if it even matters. Chuck Kinnear yes, chuck Wise no. He's done a good job so far, we still dont know the circumstances of the summer, Ive actually been impressed with the way Kinnear has drilled the team defensively, i get the feeling that attacking play is going to be pretty conventional with the attacking players just doing what they're paid for. I dont expect to see Arsenal type football but im pretty conifdent that they quality of our players will get us thorugh, like it has done on occasions this season. I've been in favour of Wise too, like i said to Spins there. But managers will not come in and work with/beneath that structure, it just won't happen, so if we're gonna progress - ultimately it needs to go. It's a crying shame, but for the greater good... Not really sure I can agree yorkie, it works abroad. We need someone who is happy as a coach, not as a manager, if the system is to be seen how we imagine. If we appointed a young yes-man from the continent who's simply got decent coaching/motivation skills... then aye, i think it might work. I like the system, i think it is feasilbe. That would never, ever have been accepted though - it wasn't an option. From Kevin Keegan to Senor Iki-pie-po... Ashley wouldn't have been safe in his own bed. Our targets would be British managers, Premier League managers, and they will NOT work with the system, which is why it needed to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 http://i39.tinypic.com/xm7g60.jpg Bravery 1. Has to be higher than that if he's coming to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Where is Aaron Spear? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 http://i39.tinypic.com/xm7g60.jpg Bravery 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Where is Aaron Spear? In the u18s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Where is Aaron Spear? In the u18s In the U16's actually, only made one appearance for the U18's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Although I think he's been injured as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Although I think he's been injured as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie jamie Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 someone said on nufcbog that he is one of the players playing in trial match on tuesday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 At least we might have a decent team in a couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Oh well a little glimmer of bright light, good news but can we have some for now please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Good to see us once again snapping up young talent. Although the first team is the main priority at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Well it looks like we have half "the system" working properly. Like others have said though, it does send out a rather mixed message. If Ashley wants out then I'm not sure what benefits he gets from investing in youth. Short term, it certainly doesn't add anything noticeable to the value of the club from his perspective. If we are to have any chance of competing, then unless we get out own multi-billionaire Arab, then this strategy will play a major part in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Well it looks like we have half "the system" working properly. Like others have said though, it does send out a rather mixed message. If Ashley wants out then I'm not sure what benefits he gets from investing in youth. Short term, it certainly doesn't add anything noticeable to the value of the club from his perspective. If we are to have any chance of competing, then unless we get out own multi-billionaire Arab, then this strategy will play a major part in that. about a quarter of the system. half the thing with getting in talented kids is improving them and bringing them through....something we have been very,very bad at for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 nice to hear, although we're doing awful at the moment in 3-4 years time we should have 5-6 players pushing for 1st team places Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Nice to see a little good news for a change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edd Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Well it looks like we have half "the system" working properly. Like others have said though, it does send out a rather mixed message. If Ashley wants out then I'm not sure what benefits he gets from investing in youth. Short term, it certainly doesn't add anything noticeable to the value of the club from his perspective. If we are to have any chance of competing, then unless we get out own multi-billionaire Arab, then this strategy will play a major part in that. about a quarter of the system. half the thing with getting in talented kids is improving them and bringing them through....something we have been very,very bad at for years. True, but half the problem in the past is that we've been very poor at identifying and signing up the best young talent in the first place. Poor scouting, lack of investment ? Who knows, but we should have been doing this for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 Well it looks like we have half "the system" working properly. Like others have said though, it does send out a rather mixed message. If Ashley wants out then I'm not sure what benefits he gets from investing in youth. Short term, it certainly doesn't add anything noticeable to the value of the club from his perspective. If we are to have any chance of competing, then unless we get out own multi-billionaire Arab, then this strategy will play a major part in that. about a quarter of the system. half the thing with getting in talented kids is improving them and bringing them through....something we have been very,very bad at for years. Its all well and good now bringing in this young talent. Once they are here though, have we got the right people in place to bring them along - teach them the right habits, playing attacking passing football (which I guess is a generalised preference) etc ? Currently the environment in which they are to be involved isnt great. They are coming to a club thats in utter turmoil. It might not take an agent long to have a word in the ear of any youngster showing promise to suggest that he will be much better off somewhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 He was born exactly a year before me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 He was born exactly a year before me That has to be some sort of sign. That he's shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 He can't be that good if AC turned him down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I'm pretty sure AC Milan would turn me down. I'm rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gemmill Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I'm pretty sure AC Milan would turn me down. I'm rubbish. Ergo this kid is pap. I fucking knew it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 I'm pretty sure AC Milan would turn me down. I'm rubbish. He's lying btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 What's the point if the manager prefers to play injured players instead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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