Ryan Taylor

[Guest Rey Mysterio]

Lots of people in here saying he should be replaced by Santon next week. One of our fullbacks has been shite for all but two games this season. The other one has just had his second shit game of the season and all the calls are for him to get the chop? Hardly seems fair.

[taxfree]

One of them also has Gutierrez usually covering his ass. There's a lot of that tbh.

[Ronaldo]

Lots of people in here saying he should be replaced by Santon next week. One of our fullbacks has been s**** for all but two games this season. The other one has just had his second s*** game of the season and all the calls are for him to get the chop? Hardly seems fair.

 

I'm no fan of Simpson but he's looked pretty good for the last 4 games.

[Zero]

I think the reason is that Raylor has been figured out as the weakest link by the opponents. The last match even though they played Nasri on the left, their actual threat comes from Milner and Micah Richards on the right, keep attacking Raylor and Jonas.  In contrast, Simpson and Sammy didn't get bombed by Nasri and Clichy. Man City intentionally did that, and proved to be correct.  Very likely Man Utd and Chelsea would do the same and so we have to make a change.

 

Possibly after we replaced Raylor with Santon, it's Simpson's turn of mistakes and errors. A new side back is a must at January, no matter right or left.

[womblemaster]

`A new side back is a must at January, no matter right or left.`

 

ive ordered a new back side from santa will that help?

[JH]

wullie u seem describe deliberate.. such as Raylor must tell in front of TV interview " yes i fook touch the ball with my hand" to tell he is deliberate or not. Attempting making ur hand wide to make bigger blocking area is deliberate IMO.

 

Is he deliberately trying to hit the ball with his arm? Of course he isn't.

 

Wullie's point is handballs are rarely deliberate at all (unless you're Steven Taylor)

[Guest]

I thought he was slightly off balance. If you look his body is leaning to the left so the natural stance to keep balance is to raise your right arm. He's made himself a bigger target as a result so is a penalty every day of the week imo.

[Ronaldo]

It's the deliberation of the action that should be judged, not the deliberation of the consequence.

[Anon]

If the ball is heading in it's always easier to give them too, regardless of the letter of the law. I've noticed Staylor deliberately blocking in the box looking like a penguin so at least he's learnt from his mistakes.

[Skeletor]

http://www.boxofficefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/john-terry-clearance.jpg

 

Take note Ryan.

[wormy]

Saylor's a fucking freak really, isn't he? Love it.

 

And let's pray that Raylor doesn't need an extended bad run to be replaced. We'll probably hear about how it's unfair to be pulling him out of the team on the back of a loss to the best team in England.

[Guest Recoba]

What is the general view as to what to do with Raylor long term?

 

I mean his contract is up end of next season, we will be about 27 I think.  Do we give him a new one, let it run down, surely not sell up?

 

I'd sign him up.  He is versatile, seems a good character and is a better defender than I ever though (despite yesterday).

[juniatmoko]

wullie u seem describe deliberate.. such as Raylor must tell in front of TV interview " yes i fook touch the ball with my hand" to tell he is deliberate or not. Attempting making ur hand wide to make bigger blocking area is deliberate IMO.

 

Is he deliberately trying to hit the ball with his arm? Of course he isn't.

 

Wullie's point is handballs are rarely deliberate at all (unless you're Steven Taylor)

 

It's the deliberation of the action that should be judged, not just the deliberation of the consequence. - Ronaldo

[Sifu]

It was the lad's worst performance for us this season (well maybe QPR was worse). The penalty he gave away was stupid, why did he have his arms spread out like that? You shouldn't do that at this level. The second goal was his mistake too, such a poor touch.

 

For the past 11 games or so before City, he has been reasonably solid (QPR game aside), so it is harsh to drop him just like that. But his weaknesses were exploited yesterday so it may be time to ease him out of the side.

[Dr Venkman]

I'd renew his contract personally,good cover.

[Sifu]

Yeah, he's definitely good cover.

[Tiresias]

Exactly, good utility player. Still no long term left back, which is really harsh on him considering the goals he's scored, but now he's letting goals in.

[Ronaldo]

Decent cover, no doubt.

 

Can't help thinking his horrible face brings the squad morale down. 

[Colocho]

Good player to have in the squad, but shouldn't be a top seven club's starting left-back.

[Cajun]

I'd renew his contract personally,good cover.

 

[relámpago blanco]

Decent cover, no doubt.

 

Can't help thinking his horrible face brings the squad morale down. 

He needs his tache back

[Heron]

It was the lad's worst performance for us this season (well maybe QPR was worse). The penalty he gave away was stupid, why did he have his arms spread out like that? You shouldn't do that at this level. The second goal was his mistake too, such a poor touch.

 

For the past 11 games or so before City, he has been reasonably solid (QPR game aside), so it is harsh to drop him just like that. But his weaknesses were exploited yesterday so it may be time to ease him out of the side.

 

His positioning and body shape were wrong for the second - something you could maybe forgive a player for, baring in mind he is arguably a midfielder and he was on his wrong side i.e. Left Back. It's probably happened a few times this season in less dangerous positions, with lower quality opposition who haven't done the ultimate damage...although that's not something I could say was 100% correct, I reckon it probably is. You're not wrong in your criticism, I just hope people don't think this justifies him being kicked out the team.

 

As for the first, any player that close to their own goal makes themselves as large as possible, and as hard to beat as possible. An opposition player wont be looking at the defender thinking "His arms are out let's get the penalty." They'll be thinking "f***ing hell, where do I put this" or "I'll just smack it." I don't think Raylor did a great lot wrong here, and I'm not saying you are, but a number on here are just waiting for people like Raylor to fail. If the same happened with a more liked player (possibly Saylor) or a younger player (Santon) then not as many would complain, in my opinion.

 

I think our back four have been outstanding, as has Tim Krul this season, and the stats reflect that. I could be wrong but I don't seem to remember Krul having too many saves to make at the weekend, despite Shiteh's domination. That's pays testament to our full team, but more specifically our back 5.

 

Raylor is more than a squad player at the moment, he's a key player for me, as are the other 4 in the back 5. Their performances have alone have laid the foundation for the midfield and strike force to do their thing. That's not to say anyone else has under-performed, just that this has been the bigegst factor in our success to date. The best defence in the league despite the fact we have played Shiteh, Spuds and Arsenal, not to mention tough away trips to Stoke, Wolves and the scum, says it all really.

 

Sorry Sifu, I don't mean to single you out...

[ujpest doza]

It was the lad's worst performance for us this season (well maybe QPR was worse). The penalty he gave away was stupid, why did he have his arms spread out like that? You shouldn't do that at this level. The second goal was his mistake too, such a poor touch.

 

For the past 11 games or so before City, he has been reasonably solid (QPR game aside), so it is harsh to drop him just like that. But his weaknesses were exploited yesterday so it may be time to ease him out of the side.

 

His positioning and body shape were wrong for the second - something you could maybe forgive a player for, baring in mind he is arguably a midfielder and he was on his wrong side i.e. Left Back. It's probably happened a few times this season in less dangerous positions, with lower quality opposition who haven't done the ultimate damage...although that's not something I could say was 100% correct, I reckon it probably is. You're not wrong in your criticism, I just hope people don't think this justifies him being kicked out the team.

 

As for the first, any player that close to their own goal makes themselves as large as possible, and as hard to beat as possible. An opposition player wont be looking at the defender thinking "His arms are out let's get the penalty." They'll be thinking "f***ing hell, where do I put this" or "I'll just smack it." I don't think Raylor did a great lot wrong here, and I'm not saying you are, but a number on here are just waiting for people like Raylor to fail. If the same happened with a more liked player (possibly Saylor) or a younger player (Santon) then not as many would complain, in my opinion.

 

I think our back four have been outstanding, as has Tim Krul this season, and the stats reflect that. I could be wrong but I don't seem to remember Krul having too many saves to make at the weekend, despite Shiteh's domination. That's pays testament to our full team, but more specifically our back 5.

 

Raylor is more than a squad player at the moment, he's a key player for me, as are the other 4 in the back 5. Their performances have alone have laid the foundation for the midfield and strike force to do their thing. That's not to say anyone else has under-performed, just that this has been the bigegst factor in our success to date. The best defence in the league despite the fact we have played Shiteh, Spuds and Arsenal, not to mention tough away trips to Stoke, Wolves and the scum, says it all really.

 

Sorry Sifu, I don't mean to single you out...

Agree with all of this.

[Sifu]

No bother.

 

Raylor definitely deserves credit for playing his part in making our defence pretty solid this season. People shouldn't forget that but really, he isn't a long term option for LB.

[durhamunigeordie]

 

His positioning and body shape were wrong for the second - something you could maybe forgive a player for, baring in mind he is arguably a midfielder and he was on his wrong side i.e. Left Back. It's probably happened a few times this season in less dangerous positions, with lower quality opposition who haven't done the ultimate damage...although that's not something I could say was 100% correct, I reckon it probably is. You're not wrong in your criticism, I just hope people don't think this justifies him being kicked out the team.

 

As for the first, any player that close to their own goal makes themselves as large as possible, and as hard to beat as possible. An opposition player wont be looking at the defender thinking "His arms are out let's get the penalty." They'll be thinking "f***ing hell, where do I put this" or "I'll just smack it." I don't think Raylor did a great lot wrong here, and I'm not saying you are, but a number on here are just waiting for people like Raylor to fail. If the same happened with a more liked player (possibly Saylor) or a younger player (Santon) then not as many would complain, in my opinion.

 

I think our back four have been outstanding, as has Tim Krul this season, and the stats reflect that. I could be wrong but I don't seem to remember Krul having too many saves to make at the weekend, despite Shiteh's domination. That's pays testament to our full team, but more specifically our back 5.

 

Raylor is more than a squad player at the moment, he's a key player for me, as are the other 4 in the back 5. Their performances have alone have laid the foundation for the midfield and strike force to do their thing. That's not to say anyone else has under-performed, just that this has been the bigegst factor in our success to date. The best defence in the league despite the fact we have played Shiteh, Spuds and Arsenal, not to mention tough away trips to Stoke, Wolves and the scum, says it all really.

 

 

I agree with most of what you say and the sentiment behind it, however, Ryan Taylor is certainly not a key player in this NUFC side, nor will he ever will be. He wasn't even a 'key player' in the Championship.