Darth Crooks Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ryan Tayor on the right of our midfield makes us look more balanced and ultimatly more composed and successful as a unit. His positional awareness is always fairly sound. So what shade of sheep does that make me? Dunno about sheep but some of that is horseshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ryan Tayor on the right of our midfield makes us look more balanced and ultimatly more composed and successful as a unit. His positional awareness is always fairly sound. So what shade of sheep does that make me? Dunno about sheep but some of that is horseshit. Matter of opinion of course, but I'd always prefer him to be in the side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Ryan Tayor on the right of our midfield makes us look more balanced and ultimatly more composed and successful as a unit. His positional awareness is always fairly sound. So what shade of sheep does that make me? Ryan Taylor will do the simple things and generally play safe, sometimes a manager will prefer that to a maverick who will break up the team shape and momentum. I can understand that, but at the end of the day you could say the same about Perch in central midfield, but it doesn't make him a good central midfielder. It's the other players in the team who will win or lose the game, Taylor will be there in a support role mostly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 We haven't had balance all season man...and Raylor does not provide that. Lots of hard graft (commendable) and a chance of a decent free kick. Nice professional bloke but if good football was about that then we'd have a first 11 of mediocre players. He's even ropier at the back. Like I said nice chap; like him but hes a professional squad player to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 He gives us solidity in a similar way Barton did- but not balance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Balance - for me, is something we have had all season, hence the fact we're on the verge of finishing fourth. Teams without balance wouldn't be where we are currently, unless there was a distinct lack of effort, team spirit, determination or ability. The first three we have in abundance, ability is the area where we don't match the remainder of the top 7. Nevertheless, the other top 6 have ability and lots of it, and yet only 3 of them can seperate themselves from us because they match us in the other three areas. Ryan Taylor is a key part of those three other areas, and has over-performed more-so than any of our other players this season. Hence the player of the season quotes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 Put him back at LB with Santon RB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 One asset of Taylor's overlooked this season is a fear factor. Although we have other players that can hit a set piece or shoot from range, I don't think these players have built up a reputation or any statistical significance for doing so. Whereas defenders know that a poor clearance or a foul and they risk conceding a shot on goal. We had that fear factor in the days of Shearer, Robert, Solano, and I think it is getting back to that now with Taylor and Cabaye. So having Taylor on the pitch unlocks a few possibilities in open play that in the past teams may have negated through fouling us or whacking the ball anywhere. However, I do think the fear factor was at his greatest when he was at LB so maybe put him back there in place of Santon who I still think is better on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 One asset of Taylor's overlooked this season is a fear factor. Although we have other players that can hit a set piece or shoot from range, I don't think these players have built up a reputation or any statistical significance for doing so. Whereas defenders know that a poor clearance or a foul and they risk conceding a shot on goal. We had that fear factor in the days of Shearer, Robert, Solano, and I think it is getting back to that now with Taylor and Cabaye. So having Taylor on the pitch unlocks a few possibilities in open play that in the past teams may have negated through fouling us or whacking the ball anywhere. However, I do think the fear factor was at his greatest when he was at LB so maybe put him back there in place of Santon who I still think is better on the right. If a player in the Premiership fears Ryan Taylor then he shouldn't be playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 24, 2012 Share Posted February 24, 2012 One asset of Taylor's overlooked this season is a fear factor. Although we have other players that can hit a set piece or shoot from range, I don't think these players have built up a reputation or any statistical significance for doing so. Whereas defenders know that a poor clearance or a foul and they risk conceding a shot on goal. We had that fear factor in the days of Shearer, Robert, Solano, and I think it is getting back to that now with Taylor and Cabaye. So having Taylor on the pitch unlocks a few possibilities in open play that in the past teams may have negated through fouling us or whacking the ball anywhere. However, I do think the fear factor was at his greatest when he was at LB so maybe put him back there in place of Santon who I still think is better on the right. If a player in the Premiership fears Ryan Taylor then he shouldn't be playing. 18 will in 9 days time, and they shouldn't be playing in the premiership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Heza, you're the type of fan I both admire and am extremely glad I don't sit next to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Heza, you're the type of fan I both admire and am extremely glad I don't sit next to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 Please elaborate chum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 25, 2012 Share Posted February 25, 2012 One asset of Taylor's overlooked this season is a fear factor. Although we have other players that can hit a set piece or shoot from range, I don't think these players have built up a reputation or any statistical significance for doing so. Whereas defenders know that a poor clearance or a foul and they risk conceding a shot on goal. We had that fear factor in the days of Shearer, Robert, Solano, and I think it is getting back to that now with Taylor and Cabaye. So having Taylor on the pitch unlocks a few possibilities in open play that in the past teams may have negated through fouling us or whacking the ball anywhere. However, I do think the fear factor was at his greatest when he was at LB so maybe put him back there in place of Santon who I still think is better on the right. If a player in the Premiership fears Ryan Taylor then he shouldn't be playing. 18 will in 9 days time, and they shouldn't be playing in the premiership. If you think Sunderland under MON will be fearing Ryan Taylor next week rather then Cisse or Ba then I must be watching a different game. If Taylor starts I expect him to be second best to whoever he's up against from the Sunderland side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 One asset of Taylor's overlooked this season is a fear factor. Although we have other players that can hit a set piece or shoot from range, I don't think these players have built up a reputation or any statistical significance for doing so. Whereas defenders know that a poor clearance or a foul and they risk conceding a shot on goal. We had that fear factor in the days of Shearer, Robert, Solano, and I think it is getting back to that now with Taylor and Cabaye. So having Taylor on the pitch unlocks a few possibilities in open play that in the past teams may have negated through fouling us or whacking the ball anywhere. However, I do think the fear factor was at his greatest when he was at LB so maybe put him back there in place of Santon who I still think is better on the right. If a player in the Premiership fears Ryan Taylor then he shouldn't be playing. 18 will in 9 days time, and they shouldn't be playing in the premiership. If you think Sunderland under MON will be fearing Ryan Taylor next week rather then Cisse or Ba then I must be watching a different game. If Taylor starts I expect him to be second best to whoever he's up against from the Sunderland side. It was a bit tongue in cheek mate, he scored a raker to beat them away, or have you already forgot that? Why would he be second best to whoever he is up against in the Sunderland squad when he hasn't been second best to a number of other players this season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 One asset of Taylor's overlooked this season is a fear factor. Although we have other players that can hit a set piece or shoot from range, I don't think these players have built up a reputation or any statistical significance for doing so. Whereas defenders know that a poor clearance or a foul and they risk conceding a shot on goal. We had that fear factor in the days of Shearer, Robert, Solano, and I think it is getting back to that now with Taylor and Cabaye. So having Taylor on the pitch unlocks a few possibilities in open play that in the past teams may have negated through fouling us or whacking the ball anywhere. However, I do think the fear factor was at his greatest when he was at LB so maybe put him back there in place of Santon who I still think is better on the right. If a player in the Premiership fears Ryan Taylor then he shouldn't be playing. 18 will in 9 days time, and they shouldn't be playing in the premiership. If you think Sunderland under MON will be fearing Ryan Taylor next week rather then Cisse or Ba then I must be watching a different game. If Taylor starts I expect him to be second best to whoever he's up against from the Sunderland side. It was a bit tongue in cheek mate, he scored a raker to beat them away, or have you already forgot that? Why would he be second best to whoever he is up against in the Sunderland squad when he hasn't been second best to a number of other players this season? Because the game isn't just about scoring free kicks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 26, 2012 Share Posted February 26, 2012 One asset of Taylor's overlooked this season is a fear factor. Although we have other players that can hit a set piece or shoot from range, I don't think these players have built up a reputation or any statistical significance for doing so. Whereas defenders know that a poor clearance or a foul and they risk conceding a shot on goal. We had that fear factor in the days of Shearer, Robert, Solano, and I think it is getting back to that now with Taylor and Cabaye. So having Taylor on the pitch unlocks a few possibilities in open play that in the past teams may have negated through fouling us or whacking the ball anywhere. However, I do think the fear factor was at his greatest when he was at LB so maybe put him back there in place of Santon who I still think is better on the right. If a player in the Premiership fears Ryan Taylor then he shouldn't be playing. 18 will in 9 days time, and they shouldn't be playing in the premiership. If you think Sunderland under MON will be fearing Ryan Taylor next week rather then Cisse or Ba then I must be watching a different game. If Taylor starts I expect him to be second best to whoever he's up against from the Sunderland side. It was a bit tongue in cheek mate, he scored a raker to beat them away, or have you already forgot that? Why would he be second best to whoever he is up against in the Sunderland squad when he hasn't been second best to a number of other players this season? Because the game isn't just about scoring free kicks. Where did I say it was? Nevertheless - goals win games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 Well, he was s***. Who would have thought it? Offered nothing going forward apart from one half decent'ish cross to Cisse. Doesn't get involved in play often and he's one paced and predictable. Still like him as a squad player, but how is he starting games FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 He gives us solidity in a similar way Barton did- but not balance. Erm, Barton was never that useless. Not sure why he never seems to get into crossing positions particularly often, might be down to Simpson's laziness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The over rating of Raylor has reached levels bordering on insanity at times. He's a very very poor player who can deliver a good set-piece or cross from time to time. That will never change, ideally he would be nowhere near our first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The over rating of Raylor has reached levels bordering on insanity at times. He's a very very poor player who can deliver a good set-piece or cross from time to time. That will never change, ideally he would be nowhere near our first team. Completely, he's not a footballer. He's a dead ball specialist and able to cross when not under pressure. You ask him to do any other footballing basics; dribbling, passing, positioning, tackling and he looks like a championship player at best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 The over rating of Raylor has reached levels bordering on insanity at times. He's a very very poor player who can deliver a good set-piece or cross from time to time. That will never change, ideally he would be nowhere near our first team. Agreed. Very annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's also insanity to label him a very, very poor player tbh. He's been relatively solid for the majority of the season, even when playing in an unnatural position for parts of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's also insanity to label him a very, very poor player tbh. He's been relatively solid for the majority of the season, even when playing in an unnatural position for parts of it. I thought he was an appalling defender. He only didn't get found out due to Jonas and due to him not being targeted at first. He had three or four games where he was the worst player on the pitch for us due to his total inability to defend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 27, 2012 Share Posted February 27, 2012 It's also insanity to label him a very, very poor player tbh. Not really. Outside of set pieces and striking a ball I'd say he is a very poor player for this level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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