Dave Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Something decent from Vitalfootball for a change. http://www.newcastle.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=155830 1) 'Premier League' on Sky Sports - It occurred to me more than ever last night, whilst watching last night's Champions League Final and suffering The Hairy Hand Man's Gang incessantly hyping up the game, that Sky Sports really are the scum of football. From lingering around grounds with their wagon, cameras and propensity to target the biggest no-toothed, slack-jawed mongrel they can find in a replica shirt, through to coining the self-love fest that is 'Grand Slam Sunday' they've become so detached from the match going fan that it really is beyond insufferable. They are almost American in their desire for the razmatazz. In a 20 team league where 16 clubs are barely worth a mention, their employment of some of the most f*ckwitted presenters around, namely Keys, Gray, Redknapp and Souness (not to mention Martin bloody Tyler) is a further gripe. And don't get me started on Phil Thompson. The things I could do to the Scouse gimp with a pair of garden shears goes beyond the unmentionable. After 16 years of the soulless satellite sods, it's fantastic to see the back of the gang. Whether it's ITV or BBC who hold the rights to the highlights, it'll be far better than 'Keysie' and co. 2) New Grounds - Of the 19 away grounds in the Premier League, we potentially get maybe two new away trips a season (less if the clubs coming up are 'bounce backs'). Whilst the media (Keys and Co again) love the hype of the Anfield atmosphere on a European night, it's hardly a cauldron on a Sunday at 1:30 when they are performing their now routine howking of us. So many trips have lost that edge, atmosphere and excitement that used to exist. Only Stoke this season was really worth a visit, with the presence of the knuckle-draggers from the Potteries a much livelier affair than the moribund regulation trips to half-empty and half-arsed Blackburn, Wigan and Bolton. Of the grounds in the Championship, there will be the likes of WBA, Boro, Coventry, Reading and Sheffield United who we've visited recently. However that still leaves a whole host of new trips to have a gander at. 3) Points win prizes - Once again we come back to the point of the league which only three clubs can win. Whilst Arsenal are a permanent fixture in the top four, they're not really in with any shout of winning it. That leaves three teams that can win the trophy. Much like the supermarket business being dominated by a big four, so is the PL. Scrapping for the leftovers off their top table doesn't really make for a lot of enthusiasm, no matter how much the race for a Europa League place is hyped up. The Championship remains one of the most open leagues around. It'll be nice to be actively competing for a trophy again, rather than being cannon fodder. 4) Away day winnability - Old Trafford, Stamford Bridge, Anfield and Arsenal. All grounds where we've just routinely gone to be sacrificial lambs. No win at Anfield since 94, since 73 at Old Trafford, since the 80s at Stamford Bridge. Highbury was a slightly happier hunting ground but the succession of 3-0 hidings at the Emirates means that getting a point at any of those four gets celebrated like a win. Desperate. We now drop into a league where every game at every ground is winnable. It'll be a refreshing change to see sides set up to go and win rather than shoving 5 into defence and 5 into midfield. 5) Pricing - £50 for Chelsea, £46 for Spurs, bloody £40 quid for a trip to the sh*t tip that is the Reebok. Obscene. With the recession showing no signs of abating, a season of £20-£30 tickets is a welcome change for the scheisters who charge corporate prices for everyday fans. 6) Blooding the youngsters - Half the criticism of the existing crop of crap was that they didn't care. The chance to see some prospects come through who have that unbridled energy so sadly missing from the cloggers like Nolan and Butt is going to be a real bonus. So what if they make a few mistakes along the way - at least they care! 7) Seaside Trips - Blackpool and Plymouth make a canny change from our current runs out to Fratton Park and Kosovo upon Wear. The carnage on an away weekend to Bloomfield Road doesn't bear thinking about. 8) Back into Europe - Tackling the Taffs means trips across the border to Cardiff and Swansea. Despite running the gauntlet of the Soul Crew and Jack Army, we can at least peddle the myth of two trips to Europe. After all - the mackems managed it with Cardiff for years. 9) JCLs out - Hopefully some of the first casualties of the relegation will be the braying JCL corporate whores that fester in our ground. The same people who used 'going to the footy' as some sort of statement akin to turning out at try hard bars like Tup Tup Palace or The Apartment with their money shot haircuts and bright pink shirts. Hopefully the cull of these tossers will lead to the lost generation starting to get to see the team. 10) 46 games - Equals more home games and away trips - result! Bring it on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Quality. Genuinely quite excited about next season already, I'm sure it'll be sapped somehow. Who or what is a JCL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Quality. Genuinely quite excited about next season already, I'm sure it'll be sapped somehow. Who or what is a JCL? Johnny Come Lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Number 4 is the best for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 If we are able to sign Shearer up and he is able to bring in a new staff and re-shape the entire squad, there is no doubt next season could be a lot of fun and we should all really just enjoy it. I think people are going to be surprised at how much fun it could potentially be, providing we have a team out there that we can be proud of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I looked at thread title and thoughT hmmm should I even bother reading the thing, but I am glad I did spot on really, infact fk promotion lets stay in the Championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jill Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 There's plenty to agree with there. I'm looking forward to it, anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 There is a difference between being optimistic and positive and being delusional, this is it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 There is a difference between being optimistic and positive and being delusional, this is it Your missing the point. No one's saying they'd rather be in the championship. However, there are parts of it that you can certainly embrace and enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 My Brother-In-Law is a massive Forrest fan, we had better fkn hammer them both times I need the bragging rights as he is fkn creased at us going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Can I add 11. We don't have to play Bolton in that horrid kit for atleast a year (unless we get them in the cup)? 12. No matter what, we are almost garunteed a place in the "NEW" Premiership including Celtic and Rangers in anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 There is a difference between being optimistic and positive and being delusional, this is it I think there is excitement because it might be nice to not be complete shit for once. But, if the Championship started today, we'd still be complete shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 No-one would rather be in the Championship than the Premiership but it has to be said, there are plenty of things about it that are good. It is a competitive, open league, and not short on quality overall - there are plenty of good players in the league, and often some good stuff being played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatwax Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I accepted relegation reasonably quickly and with many of my friends being die hard forest or wednesday fans I'm really looking forward to some of the away days. Gaining promotion is crucial for the clubs long term future, but playing in the 2nd tier won't put me off this wonderful club one jot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 No-one would rather be in the Championship than the Premiership but it has to be said, there are plenty of things about it that are good. It is a competitive, open league, and not short on quality overall - there are plenty of good players in the league, and often some good stuff being played. it's a paradox. yes i want my club to be the best. i want the world to be in awe at my club.......................but at the same time after years of the seriousness of old trafford and white hart lane i'll make more of an effort for the fun of oakwell and loftus road. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 I can actually feel myself coming round to Fatwax's way of thinking. It's daft really; such is the constant shitness of the last few years (and the general inevitablity of relegation this season) - i've managed to muster some sort of philosophical attitude fairly quickly. I mean, i was devastated for about Sunday and Monday... then i've pretty much just been numb since then. Not indifferent, just unsure how to accept it and how to respond the the gradual 'sinking in' of the situation. I keep reminding myself we're in the same league as Peterborough and Blackpool but there is quite a bit to look forward to, providing Shearer is given the money he needs in the summer. The whole aspect of a brand new, Alan Shearer, squad has me chomping at the bit really. I'm actually really excited. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 these threads are getting embarrasing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 No-one would rather be in the Championship than the Premiership but it has to be said, there are plenty of things about it that are good. It is a competitive, open league, and not short on quality overall - there are plenty of good players in the league, and often some good stuff being played. it's a paradox. yes i want my club to be the best. i want the world to be in awe at my club.......................but at the same time after years of the seriousness of old trafford and white hart lane i'll make more of an effort for the fun of oakwell and loftus road. im with madrass on this, i think its an age thing, but all my best times ( before kids, and morgages and stuff) were during second Division times and a spell of shit first division in the 80s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 To be honest, if we'd got a point out of those last two games and stayed up, could anyone see next season being much different from the last anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 To be honest, if we'd got a point out of those last two games and stayed up, could anyone see next season being much different from the last anyway? No. And watching the playoffs and the little championship football I did this season, the league seems really competitive. Bring it on!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 This club needs a dramatic overhaul from top to bottom and the only way that would sink in was if something drastic happened. Now it has. This might be naivity, but I'd sacrifice one relegation for the sake of stabilising and becoming a football club again, rather than a comedy club. Can you imagine how much worse it would have got next season? The Championship still has a hint of honesty and innocence, especially compared to the corruptness of the top flight. So while ultimately that is where we need to be again, I think spending time in a league where fans genuinely seem happy isn't that bad. Also, its very unpredictable. We might even win a few matches!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 "Never waste a good crisis" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 "Never waste a good crisis" And along that line, I see the club have shifted on a few oddbods in odd jobs under the radar while everyone was distracted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brewcastle Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I hardly believe it's serious when somebody say they're more comfortable with staying in Championship than in Premier League. The only positive with a drop into Championship is that matches can be won while re-establish a squad that can bring some success in Premiership the season after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Swansea can be added as a sea-side town. You lads will have a great time down here, really top night out these days. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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