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How does redheugh know when these stories are going to be broken by the Chronicle if he just works for a legal firm?

 

Perhaps, stick with me here, he... doesn't?

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How does redheugh know when these stories are going to be broken by the Chronicle if he just works for a legal firm?

 

I'd guess he just knows someone in the press and is pretending to be more ITK than he actually is.

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Ok then, if the rumours are true, Lerner is pretty much the worlds most perfect chairman. Glad we sorted that one out.

 

Too early to say. Hasn't hit a rough spot yet and Villa have done reasonably well for a couple of seasons (not as well as we did with crap owners though), but even now they're getting lower crowds than we are with all that's going on at our club, and the supporters who do turn up boo their players after conceding a couple of goals.

 

Their debt (to him) is larger than ours was and it has all been spent on "trophy" players, not on stadium expansions or new training grounds/academy facilities for example. Exactly the sort of short termism our last lot were accused of but on a bigger (more expensive) scale. Their wage bill will have shot up in the last couple of years, but their turnover is still a lot less than ours was in the premiership. I doubt he'll be funding them as significantly in the next couple of years unless they manage to get in the CL. Let's see how he copes when the supporters get restless because they have a couple of poor seasons, they don't spend £10m+ every Summer, he has to get a new manager in, or even just because they are only getting into the UEFA cup every other year.

 

He's certainly pretty good at PR though, and that's what counts most for some.

he should expect it to get really rough if they drop like a stone from being in a great psoition and hocks the club up to the hilt and looks to do build even more debt  they'll struggle to finance with managers everyone knows will not cut it.

 

 

see what i did there ?

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At this point I'd be happy just to see Ashley gone.

 

I'm not even concerned with competing with the Arsenals, Chelseas, and Liverpools. That was years ago and as far as I'm concerned might as well be years in the future.

 

How expectations have fallen . . . I cannot even begin to think about the possibility of ever agreeing with thoughts like that!!

 

Amazing!

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Ok then, if the rumours are true, Lerner is pretty much the worlds most perfect chairman. Glad we sorted that one out.

 

Too early to say. Hasn't hit a rough spot yet and Villa have done reasonably well for a couple of seasons (not as well as we did with crap owners though), but even now they're getting lower crowds than we are with all that's going on at our club, and the supporters who do turn up boo their players after conceding a couple of goals.

 

Their debt (to him) is larger than ours was and it has all been spent on "trophy" players, not on stadium expansions or new training grounds/academy facilities for example. Exactly the sort of short termism our last lot were accused of but on a bigger (more expensive) scale. Their wage bill will have shot up in the last couple of years, but their turnover is still a lot less than ours was in the premiership. I doubt he'll be funding them as significantly in the next couple of years unless they manage to get in the CL. Let's see how he copes when the supporters get restless because they have a couple of poor seasons, they don't spend £10m+ every Summer, he has to get a new manager in, or even just because they are only getting into the UEFA cup every other year.

 

He's certainly pretty good at PR though, and that's what counts most for some.

 

I don't want to get involved in the old board stuff in that post, we've been there once or twice before  :lol:      but will just comment on Lerner's funding of Villa. From the latest available accounts his loan stood at £75 million, but he had also stuck in a further £50 million as share capital. Investing funds in a football club by way of share capital is pretty unusual these days, in fact I don't think any other new owner has done it.

 

Also a bit puzzled about the PR comment - can you explain? Maybe I have missed something because my take on Lerner is that he keeps a pretty low profile.   

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Ok then, if the rumours are true, Lerner is pretty much the worlds most perfect chairman. Glad we sorted that one out.

 

Too early to say. Hasn't hit a rough spot yet and Villa have done reasonably well for a couple of seasons (not as well as we did with crap owners though), but even now they're getting lower crowds than we are with all that's going on at our club, and the supporters who do turn up boo their players after conceding a couple of goals.

 

Their debt (to him) is larger than ours was and it has all been spent on "trophy" players, not on stadium expansions or new training grounds/academy facilities for example. Exactly the sort of short termism our last lot were accused of but on a bigger (more expensive) scale. Their wage bill will have shot up in the last couple of years, but their turnover is still a lot less than ours was in the premiership. I doubt he'll be funding them as significantly in the next couple of years unless they manage to get in the CL. Let's see how he copes when the supporters get restless because they have a couple of poor seasons, they don't spend £10m+ every Summer, he has to get a new manager in, or even just because they are only getting into the UEFA cup every other year.

 

He's certainly pretty good at PR though, and that's what counts most for some.

 

I don't want to get involved in the old board stuff in that post, we've been there once or twice before  :lol:      but will just comment on Lerner's funding of Villa. From the latest available accounts his loan stood at £75 million, but he had also stuck in a further £50 million as share capital. Investing funds in a football club by way of share capital is pretty unusual these days, in fact I don't think any other new owner has done it.

 

Also a bit puzzled about the PR comment - can you explain? Maybe I have missed something because my take on Lerner is that he keeps a pretty low profile.   

 

for a start they gave away their shirt sponsorship for nothing to a childrens foundation for 2yrs, thats not bad PR

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Ok then, if the rumours are true, Lerner is pretty much the worlds most perfect chairman. Glad we sorted that one out.

 

Too early to say. Hasn't hit a rough spot yet and Villa have done reasonably well for a couple of seasons (not as well as we did with crap owners though), but even now they're getting lower crowds than we are with all that's going on at our club, and the supporters who do turn up boo their players after conceding a couple of goals.

 

Their debt (to him) is larger than ours was and it has all been spent on "trophy" players, not on stadium expansions or new training grounds/academy facilities for example. Exactly the sort of short termism our last lot were accused of but on a bigger (more expensive) scale. Their wage bill will have shot up in the last couple of years, but their turnover is still a lot less than ours was in the premiership. I doubt he'll be funding them as significantly in the next couple of years unless they manage to get in the CL. Let's see how he copes when the supporters get restless because they have a couple of poor seasons, they don't spend £10m+ every Summer, he has to get a new manager in, or even just because they are only getting into the UEFA cup every other year.

 

He's certainly pretty good at PR though, and that's what counts most for some.

 

I don't want to get involved in the old board stuff in that post, we've been there once or twice before  :lol:      but will just comment on Lerner's funding of Villa. From the latest available accounts his loan stood at £75 million, but he had also stuck in a further £50 million as share capital. Investing funds in a football club by way of share capital is pretty unusual these days, in fact I don't think any other new owner has done it.

 

Also a bit puzzled about the PR comment - can you explain? Maybe I have missed something because my take on Lerner is that he keeps a pretty low profile.   

 

for a start they gave away their shirt sponsorship for nothing to a childrens foundation for 2yrs, thats not bad PR

 

OK most clubs do their bit for local charities and it gets in the press, but fair enough.

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“It wasn’t too long ago that Newcastle were above Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in the table during the Sir Bobby Robson era, and there is no reason why that potential can’t be lived up to again.”

 

must have missed that

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How does redheugh know when these stories are going to be broken by the Chronicle if he just works for a legal firm?

 

I'd guess he just knows someone in the press and is pretending to be more ITK than he actually is.

 

I can't verify this, but apparently he'd been talking about it on Toontastic long before he came on here and the press started talking about it. So he seems like he knows his stuff.

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“It wasn’t too long ago that Newcastle were above Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in the table during the Sir Bobby Robson era, and there is no reason why that potential can’t be lived up to again.”

 

must have missed that

 

Not at the end of the season, but there were times when we were top of the league halfway through the season, or that if we won our last 12 games we'd have won the title. Is a fair comment.

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“It wasn’t too long ago that Newcastle were above Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool in the table during the Sir Bobby Robson era, and there is no reason why that potential can’t be lived up to again.”

 

must have missed that

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/1711251.stm  :snod:

 

This is the worst link i've come across in years, it makes me feel sick.

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Craig just been on SSN

 

I caught the end

 

what was said?

 

Something about the Nigerian consortium being back in the running with Rashidi Yekini as powerful shooting coach, Jay Jay Okocha as executive director of dribbling and Taribo West as manager of defence.

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