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Sunderland have had shit managers on each occasion too. Their players want it far more than ours. If obviously a by-product of the ownership/management that we seek players with no ambition, no bollocks, just a desire to escape hellhole leagues and harsher taxes.

 

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Totally agree, their owner is poor but good intentioned, ours is fucking diabolical. Players know this.

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We could have won (lol pls) and he'd still deserve abuse. Shows you everything you need to know about the mentality of this team when one of our senior players is blowing their goalscorer in the tunnel.

 

Even in a regular game that isn't acceptable, but in a derby? Jesus Christ.

 

This totally. Living in Scotland up in Motherwell I watched the game in a bar with a few Celtic colleagues and they said that if a Celtic keeper had done that to a Rangers player he'd never play for the club again. says it shows they are all pals and the game means fuck all to the players...rubs the fans noses in it totally said it wouldn't be tolerated by the old firm at all

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Sunderland have had s*** managers on each occasion too. Their players want it far more than ours. If obviously a by-product of the ownership/management that we seek players with no ambition, no bollocks, just a desire to escape hellhole leagues and harsher taxes.

 

Sunderland have had shit managers, shit managers who knew how to prepare players to play against us and win.  Our game-plan seems to revolve around work-rate and nothing else, we seem to think if we work hard we'll win and that's bullshit.

 

Why do their players want it far more than ours?  I don't think they do, I think they prepare better and believe they'll win, our lot don't look as if they think they can win and don't, we simply don't look up for it.

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We could have won (lol pls) and he'd still deserve abuse. Shows you everything you need to know about the mentality of this team when one of our senior players is blowing their goalscorer in the tunnel.

 

Even in a regular game that isn't acceptable, but in a derby? Jesus Christ.

 

This totally. Living in Scotland up in Motherwell I watched the game in a bar with a few Celtic colleagues and they said that if a Celtic keeper had done that to a Rangers player he'd never play for the club again. says it shows they are all pals and the game means f*** all to the players...rubs the fans noses in it totally said it wouldn't be tolerated by the old firm at all

 

give over man, he give him a slap on the back for a fucking world class goal. who gives a shit.

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We could have won (lol pls) and he'd still deserve abuse. Shows you everything you need to know about the mentality of this team when one of our senior players is blowing their goalscorer in the tunnel.

 

Even in a regular game that isn't acceptable, but in a derby? Jesus Christ.

 

This totally. Living in Scotland up in Motherwell I watched the game in a bar with a few Celtic colleagues and they said that if a Celtic keeper had done that to a Rangers player he'd never play for the club again. says it shows they are all pals and the game means fuck all to the players...rubs the fans noses in it totally said it wouldn't be tolerated by the old firm at all

Don't think we should be looking to the Old Firm as an example

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Analysing shit like this and players swapping shirts and all that is a waste of time and takes away from discussing more important things like how shit the manager was and most of the players were

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What is the point n sporting competition if you don't hate and despise your opponent for the duration of the contest. Krul shouldn't be congratulating an opponent even if he is his best friend during the game...afterwards in private yes but not in public. I read a piece on the Williams sisters and both Venus and serena said during a match that all family ties and everything went out of the window they hated each other and wanted to win at all costs. Then when match over its back to sisterly duties

 

Krul should be fucked for doing it in my opinion anyone who thinks it's fine has lost concept of the occasion and what a sporting contest means

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What Krul did was a genuinely f***ing ridiculous, it's a derby and the bloke he's happily patting on the back just scored against us. How many times do opposition players do that? let alone in a derby. Mad that anyone thinks it's acceptable like

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What Krul did was a genuinely f***ing ridiculous, it's a derby and the bloke he's happily patting on the back just scored against us. How many times do opposition players do that? let alone in a derby. Mad that anyone thinks it's acceptable like

 

Im sure hba done it a couple of years back too, laughing and joking at the end. they don't care man, it's a game of football to them. nee point getting wound up about it.

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Nah it's nothing to do with that, but you can't think doing that in a derby literally five minutes after the guy has scored, is acceptable?

 

Krul said he patted him on the back to tell him he was a lucky ????? Something which he said he couldn't repeat on TV.  He didn't pat him on the back to congratulate him, it sounds like it was to get him to turn around to talk to him.

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It was a stupid thing to do yes, am I going to get my knickers in a twist over it? No. Maybe I don't have enough passhun.

 

Nah it's nothing to do with that, but you can't think doing that in a derby literally five minutes after the guy has scored, is acceptable?

I don't think it is acceptable no, that's why I said it was a stupid thing to do. Demba Ba laughed when he scored an own goal in this fixture ffs. I just think there are a lot more things to get wound up about with regards to this football club.

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Tim Krul in a football is just my job shocker. Not sure why this kind of behavior shocks anyone anymore.

 

Aye.  Eleven jobbers on the field today.  Happy to get their cash, will be told they were great by the equally jobbing coaches tomorrow.  Might even get the day off.  Could you imagine the likes of Kevin Nolan congratulating the opposition for their wonderful play in a derby game.  No hunger left in our squad at all.

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He should have been in the dressing room shouting at the shower of shit in front of him; but no, he was still in the tunnel waiting for teary eyed Defoe to appear.

 

Regardless of what he said or why, the fact is he should have been racing down the tunnel to get in the dressing room to try and help sort out the shite that we'd produced in that first half. Priorities all wrong.

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I was pretty much done with Krul when he started tub-thumping for Carver to get the job a few months ago. He was the last, he was the last one I thought "hope he doesn't go" when looking at the squad. Now? He simply doesn't give a fuck, none of them do.

 

Fuck him and fuck the rest of them. I'd barely raise an eyebrow if an ISIS nuclear warhead landed on the training ground tomorrow morning. 

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Tim Krul in a football is just my job shocker. Not sure why this kind of behavior shocks anyone anymore.

 

Aside from the fact you rarely, if ever, see this type of nonsense from good players, you'd hope someone who's been here a decade and claims to love the club wouldn't act like that.

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One thing a good manager instills is a winning mentality.  If you want to compete at the highest level you need that will to win, you need to want to compete and I just don't see that with our team.

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One thing a good manager instills is a winning mentality.  If you want to compete at the highest level you need that will to win, you need to want to compete and I just don't see that with our team.

 

They don't have to win, we're almost guaranteed to be in the division next season so it's as good ad job done.  Our players don't have any ambition for this season and they don't have any motivation so we're not going to compete, we certainly don't have a good manager to change that.

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