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I just don't get why there's still so much stigma attached to it in football. Not as if football's the sport of a man's man anymore, if it ever was.

 

I suppose the whole sharing the dressing room and all that will add to the pressure. I don't think it's just football, are really many openly gay men in other team sports?

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Bellamy had a son when he was 17? Didn't know that.

 

Nice to see his son and Speed's son play together for the Welsh under 16's :aww:

 

Had two kids at the age of 19, I think.

 

Mental that :lol:

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Bellamy had a son when he was 17? Didn't know that.

 

Nice to see his son and Speed's son play together for the Welsh under 16's :aww:

 

On cardiffs books. (Ed speed was at Wrexham)

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http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play.html

 

Every season we end up near enough bottom of this fucker.

 

Aye but it includes stuff like:

 

6. Behaviour of the public

 


Maximum score = 10

Minimum score = 0

 

All teams begin with a score of 5 points. A maximum of a further 5 points can be added for:


 

- Verbal support in acceptable form

- Covert recognition of outstanding play by the opponents

 

A maximum of 5 points can be deducted for:


 

- Persistent foul and abusive language

- Persistent abuse of the officials’ decisions

- Aggressive and threatening conduct towards opposing fans

 

So I'm not sure how objectively it can be measured.

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http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/matchday/fair-play.html

 

Every season we end up near enough bottom of this fucker.

 

Aye but it includes stuff like:

 

6. Behaviour of the public

 


Maximum score = 10

Minimum score = 0

 

All teams begin with a score of 5 points. A maximum of a further 5 points can be added for:


 

- Verbal support in acceptable form

- Covert recognition of outstanding play by the opponents

 

A maximum of 5 points can be deducted for:


 

- Persistent foul and abusive language

- Persistent abuse of the officials’ decisions

- Aggressive and threatening conduct towards opposing fans

 

So I'm not sure how objectively it can be measured.

 

 

lying shit bastard officials probably report on it.

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If we always get the worst marks in the league for our behaviour whilst our behaviour seems fine to everyone in SJP, there seems little reason to continue to behave nicely...

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Our players must be really sneaky with their abuse because there is no way any of them go Terry, Gerrard, Ferdinand, Suarez, Rooney apeshit.

 

Refs are honored when those guys speak to them. +points.

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