Fenham Mag Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Ah well , I let you off, just tuned in now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Loved my visit to Estonia, think it was to talon or something like that, big Market, lots of drink and great food, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Tallinn? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Tallinn? Possibly. Lovely place like. Wherever the Finns go for their cheap booze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Pretty sure we played Levedia Tallinn or something in UEFA/Intertoto which is why it sort of sounds familiar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 5, 2012 Share Posted June 5, 2012 Aye, smashed em 3-1 on aggregate. Fucking hope that sorta shit changes next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 talon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timeEd32 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Been reading a lot about Gibraltar (don't ask) and came across this. This is complete bullshit... On 12 April 1999 the GFA applied for membership in UEFA (Union of European Football Associations).[4] This would have allowed them to join the qualifiers for the European Football Championships and enter teams in European club competition. This immediately drew a hostile reception from the Royal Spanish Football Federation, whose government strongly opposes any suggestion that Gibraltar is in fact a separate territory and not part of Spain.[5] Spanish authorities waged a campaign of virulent opposition to their application, causing it to be rejected by officials on the grounds that it did not meet their criteria.[4] In 2002 UEFA had stipulated that future members would have to be sovereign nations, despite a number of their existing members failing to meet this requirement.[6][7] After a legal challenge, a ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sport in 2006 insisted that UEFA had to accept the GFA as any other member, as the application had come before the new criteria had been put in place and the rejection had political overtones, which are strongly discouraged in sport. UEFA awarded the GFA associate member status along with Montenegro and deferred the matter to the 2007 Congress in Düsseldorf, Germany.[4] Spanish delegates had for some months, by attempting to secure support for their position, even been threatening to withdraw Spanish teams from UEFA competitions if Gibraltar was approved.[8] This tactic was successful - winning the vote 45 to 3, with 5 abstentions.[4] Gibraltar's application was at this point thrown out, while Montenegro was unanimously granted membership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Cardiff Rebrand goes ahead - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324804 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Been reading a lot about Gibraltar (don't ask) and came across this. This is complete bullshit... On 12 April 1999 the GFA applied for membership in UEFA (Union of European Football Associations).[4] This would have allowed them to join the qualifiers for the European Football Championships and enter teams in European club competition. This immediately drew a hostile reception from the Royal Spanish Football Federation, whose government strongly opposes any suggestion that Gibraltar is in fact a separate territory and not part of Spain.[5] Spanish authorities waged a campaign of virulent opposition to their application, causing it to be rejected by officials on the grounds that it did not meet their criteria.[4] In 2002 UEFA had stipulated that future members would have to be sovereign nations, despite a number of their existing members failing to meet this requirement.[6][7] After a legal challenge, a ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sport in 2006 insisted that UEFA had to accept the GFA as any other member, as the application had come before the new criteria had been put in place and the rejection had political overtones, which are strongly discouraged in sport. UEFA awarded the GFA associate member status along with Montenegro and deferred the matter to the 2007 Congress in Düsseldorf, Germany.[4] Spanish delegates had for some months, by attempting to secure support for their position, even been threatening to withdraw Spanish teams from UEFA competitions if Gibraltar was approved.[8] This tactic was successful - winning the vote 45 to 3, with 5 abstentions.[4] Gibraltar's application was at this point thrown out, while Montenegro was unanimously granted membership. Why do we the British have Gibraltar still? Just trying to cling to last of our Empire..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Been reading a lot about Gibraltar (don't ask) and came across this. This is complete bullshit... On 12 April 1999 the GFA applied for membership in UEFA (Union of European Football Associations).[4] This would have allowed them to join the qualifiers for the European Football Championships and enter teams in European club competition. This immediately drew a hostile reception from the Royal Spanish Football Federation, whose government strongly opposes any suggestion that Gibraltar is in fact a separate territory and not part of Spain.[5] Spanish authorities waged a campaign of virulent opposition to their application, causing it to be rejected by officials on the grounds that it did not meet their criteria.[4] In 2002 UEFA had stipulated that future members would have to be sovereign nations, despite a number of their existing members failing to meet this requirement.[6][7] After a legal challenge, a ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sport in 2006 insisted that UEFA had to accept the GFA as any other member, as the application had come before the new criteria had been put in place and the rejection had political overtones, which are strongly discouraged in sport. UEFA awarded the GFA associate member status along with Montenegro and deferred the matter to the 2007 Congress in Düsseldorf, Germany.[4] Spanish delegates had for some months, by attempting to secure support for their position, even been threatening to withdraw Spanish teams from UEFA competitions if Gibraltar was approved.[8] This tactic was successful - winning the vote 45 to 3, with 5 abstentions.[4] Gibraltar's application was at this point thrown out, while Montenegro was unanimously granted membership. Why do we the British have Gibraltar still? Just trying to cling to last of our Empire..... Why not, why do Spain want it so badly? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Cardiff Rebrand goes ahead - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324804 Disgusting really. Money from new fans on the other side of the world who will probably never see the team play is more important than money from the fans who go to matches week in and week out and have been doing so for generations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Cardiff Rebrand goes ahead - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324804 Disgusting really. Money from new fans on the other side of the world who will probably never see the team play is more important than money from the fans who go to matches week in and week out and have been doing so for generations. Aye. Don't particularly like Cardiff but can't help but feel sorry to their fans. They've been shat on from a great height in the name of ££££ by owners who've not a clue about football tradition. What's the thinking behind the change to red anyways? Is it something to do with the fact that they're a Welsh club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=82606 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Cardiff Rebrand goes ahead - http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18324804 Disgusting really. Money from new fans on the other side of the world who will probably never see the team play is more important than money from the fans who go to matches week in and week out and have been doing so for generations. Aye. Don't particularly like Cardiff but can't help but feel sorry to their fans. They've been shat on from a great height in the name of ££££ by owners who've not a clue about football tradition. What's the thinking behind the change to red anyways? Is it something to do with the fact that they're a Welsh club? Red is a colour of power and luck in Asia. Also they want to implement a Dragon which are national icons of both China and Wales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Does anyone still believe it couldn't happen to us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Does anyone still believe it couldn't happen to us? Not even Ashley is that stupid. He knows that finally, finally that would be the last straw. He is in the club to run it well now, despite selling the stadium name he done it for the money. I don't think their is any money in us changing our colours, no disrespect to Cardiff but we are more known that them around the world and the whole world knows we play in black and white, we don't need to do what Cardiff have done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Marc Wilmots permanent Belgium manager Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonpete1892 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Shocking news for football. As Stifler said, its sticking two fingers up at home grown generation of fans whilst taking a risky gamble to generate new fans that will only stick around for a few years. Realistically for smaller clubs, how much revenue can these 'fans' generate? We could well be the first to play them in their red home kit unless they announce further friendlies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Been reading a lot about Gibraltar (don't ask) and came across this. This is complete bullshit... On 12 April 1999 the GFA applied for membership in UEFA (Union of European Football Associations).[4] This would have allowed them to join the qualifiers for the European Football Championships and enter teams in European club competition. This immediately drew a hostile reception from the Royal Spanish Football Federation, whose government strongly opposes any suggestion that Gibraltar is in fact a separate territory and not part of Spain.[5] Spanish authorities waged a campaign of virulent opposition to their application, causing it to be rejected by officials on the grounds that it did not meet their criteria.[4] In 2002 UEFA had stipulated that future members would have to be sovereign nations, despite a number of their existing members failing to meet this requirement.[6][7] After a legal challenge, a ruling by the Court of Arbitration for Sport in 2006 insisted that UEFA had to accept the GFA as any other member, as the application had come before the new criteria had been put in place and the rejection had political overtones, which are strongly discouraged in sport. UEFA awarded the GFA associate member status along with Montenegro and deferred the matter to the 2007 Congress in Düsseldorf, Germany.[4] Spanish delegates had for some months, by attempting to secure support for their position, even been threatening to withdraw Spanish teams from UEFA competitions if Gibraltar was approved.[8] This tactic was successful - winning the vote 45 to 3, with 5 abstentions.[4] Gibraltar's application was at this point thrown out, while Montenegro was unanimously granted membership. Why do we the British have Gibraltar still? Just trying to cling to last of our Empire..... Probably similar reasons to Spain wanting to keep Ceuta... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Does anyone still believe it couldn't happen to us? Not even Ashley is that stupid. He knows that finally, finally that would be the last straw. He is in the club to run it well now, despite selling the stadium name he done it for the money. I don't think their is any money in us changing our colours, no disrespect to Cardiff but we are more known that them around the world and the whole world knows we play in black and white, we don't need to do what Cardiff have done. the show[casing] must go on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 fucking Spaniards, gees peace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Cardiff fans saying it's ok and are thanking the owners for doing it and stopping them from going out of business. Like they have anything to thank them for, they bought the club for what it was, they have duty to stand by the club and just not let it fold, they have duty to keep and represent it's history. And whats for all this investment, it's not like it's a major sponsorship deal from people from Malaysia, no this is the owners bribing the fans with the "We will fuck the club over if you don't sell your soul" line and they are thanking them, bloody loonies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The whole Cardiff business makes me incredibly worried and depressed about the state of the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The whole Cardiff business makes me incredibly worried and depressed about the state of the game. Nothing is being done to protect clubs from foreign ownership and the incredible naivety by the owners it brings. Cardiff, Blackburn etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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