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  1. 1. Have you / do you intend to pledge to the 1892 Pledge scheme orchestrated by the NUST?

    • Yes
      68
    • No
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On 23/11/2021 at 18:15, Rich said:

 

Aye, no issues with the charitable donation element. It should've been 5-10x the size, though.

 

Aye, for a fanbase the size of ours and over a number of months of people putting monthly donations that's a small amount.

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Pure guesswork here but I think a somewhat condensed version of this mess is:

 

- The Trust is avoiding an AGM which is mandatory under the rules that govern supporters trusts

- They also refuse to release financial particulars that again, are required under the rules that govern supporters trusts

- He thinks they were editing things on the website, as well as retrospectively 'reviewing' processes and procedures related to what he deemed as shady stuff, in the middle of his dispute, to try and cover their tracks

- Treated his dispute as a complaint to alter how they would need to handle it

- Thinks they broke board member vote rules by not have any form of postal vote available for people who may not have registered an email address with the Trust, and hustings singled out a particular candidate for a question without allowing others a chance to answer or respond. 

 

... Does that sound about right? 

 

Not backing up any of his claims as I've no clue, and am not even a member anymore to know what this members update with 'fibs' is. Just trying to make sense of that absolute mess of a Twitter thread is all.

 

May seem an overreaction (as someone in the replies implied) but as a group that are looking to be a major representative of our fans with the new ownership they should sure as shit be raked over the coals if stuff like this is correct.

 

Either way, I'll keep my popcorn within reaching distance. 

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5 hours ago, Whitley mag said:

Long thread on the trust not just folk on here who seem to have an issue.

 

 

This individual DM'd me on Twitter, seemingly intent on me dishing dirt on why I left the Trust.

 

As always is the case, there is a Black side and a white side to this debate but the reality is somewhere in the merky grey middle ground.

 

There are some accuracies in what's being said, but there's seemingly alterior motives at play too. I find it a bit peculiar going to such lengths to drag volunteers through the dirt, but similarly I agree that if you want to lead such an organisation then you need to be thorough and accountable.

 

I could spill out all my reasons and versions of events, ones which wouldn't paint this guy tweeting in a good light, wouldn't paint the trust in a good light and to some wouldn't paint me in a good light. What I don't get is that, in a time when we require unity and a siege mentality with all but results going right for us, why would anyone want to be so disruptive? We're all in it for NUFC, or so I always naively thought, until I was about 22 (10 years ago).

 

I will say this though, in this day and age every club should have a trust and a trust that is representative of its fans not just it's membership. Clubs belong to their communities.

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3 hours ago, wormy said:

Pure guesswork here but I think a somewhat condensed version of this mess is:

 

- The Trust is avoiding an AGM which is mandatory under the rules that govern supporters trusts

- They also refuse to release financial particulars that again, are required under the rules that govern supporters trusts

- He thinks they were editing things on the website, as well as retrospectively 'reviewing' processes and procedures related to what he deemed as shady stuff, in the middle of his dispute, to try and cover their tracks

- Treated his dispute as a complaint to alter how they would need to handle it

- Thinks they broke board member vote rules by not have any form of postal vote available for people who may not have registered an email address with the Trust, and hustings singled out a particular candidate for a question without allowing others a chance to answer or respond. 

 

... Does that sound about right? 

 

Not backing up any of his claims as I've no clue, and am not even a member anymore to know what this members update with 'fibs' is. Just trying to make sense of that absolute mess of a Twitter thread is all.

 

May seem an overreaction (as someone in the replies implied) but as a group that are looking to be a major representative of our fans with the new ownership they should sure as shit be raked over the coals if stuff like this is correct.

 

Either way, I'll keep my popcorn within reaching distance. 

Accurate summary.

 

He's going about things the wrong way here though, and so are the trust. Who'd have thought, 'fan engagement' holds the key... 

 

Wish someone suggested that...

 

 

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In any trust or community organisation, strong governance is the most important thing. As Heron has said, people may have differing views on the personalities, but part of the point of governance is to ensure that doesn’t hijack the overall aims and structure of the organisation. So I kind of agree with that guy’s point, whether he’s an arsehole or not.

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21 minutes ago, alijmitchell said:

In any trust or community organisation, strong governance is the most important thing. As Heron has said, people may have differing views on the personalities, but part of the point of governance is to ensure that doesn’t hijack the overall aims and structure of the organisation. So I kind of agree with that guy’s point, whether he’s an arsehole or not.

Heron’s no arsehole man 

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Guy needs to get a bit of a grip. Some admittedly slightly shoddy governance but it's a supporters group full of volunteers. He's obviously got an axe to grind but might as well just front it up rather than rooting through the regs picking on whatever he can for 4 months.

 

Personally I think Hurst is self serving who has waltzed back in as he knows the club is going places and he wants to ride it's coat tails for his own profile. 

I don't particularly give a shit that they don't have the balance sheet available at someone's house.

 

I did like the "we don't have a complaints procedure so we've just made this one up now. As you can see we have yet to complete this made up process so suck it" [emoji38]

 

 

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32 minutes ago, WarrenBartonCentrePartin said:

Just came in to post that as it appeared in my feed, having been liked by Chris Waugh. Glad I cancelled my membership, it's clearly a closed shop and a best pals club.

 

Have to agree. The way Alex Hurst magically rejoined after the takeover happened has left a sour feeling for many members. Seems like a True Faith clique with Charlotte and Marc Corby also on the board (Although at least Marc Corby comes across decent on the podcasts) 

 

Edit - Just reading his tweets and replies and it seems he had a few fresh ideas which were dismissed quickly by the others. Also the 2nd board member to step down within the last month. Not a good look at all

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Pokerprince2004 said:

 

Have to agree. The way Alex Hurst magically rejoined after the takeover happened has left a sour feeling for many members. Seems like a True Faith clique with Charlotte and Marc Corby also on the board (Although at least Marc Corby comes across decent on the podcasts) 

 

Edit - Just reading his tweets and replies and it seems he had a few fresh ideas which were dismissed quickly by the others. Also the 2nd board member to step down within the last month. Not a good look at all

 

 

 

@Gregwill be along in a bit to explain how it's all going swimmingly. He promised. 

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Never really bothered with True Faith before, but following the takeover a lot of these NUFC youtubers started showing up in my feed. I saw one with Hurst where he had Caulkin, Waugh and Downey, it was a couple of hours long so I didn't sit through it all, but was a canny watch tbh. 

 

I don't listen to football podcasts, but the TF youtube show is pretty slick. And by slick I mean by fan vlog standards. It's not going to win awards, but it's like the directors cut compared to some of the stuff that's out there, like Covid kid Adam Pearson. 

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13 minutes ago, HTT II said:

Maybe, just maybe, someone has a social life and a job and other commitments? 

Which is fine of course, but it was him who came on here saying he'd provide an update weeks and weeks ago then opted not to bother. 

 

People are entitled to chase it up. 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Joey Linton said:

Which is fine of course, but it was him who came on here saying he'd provide an update weeks and weeks ago then opted not to bother. 

 

People are entitled to chase it up. 

 

 

 

True, Gregg is a good guy though and I’m sure whatever his reasons, it’s nothing disingenuous. 

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