Numbers Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I cancelled everything when the boss Alex Hurst walked back in without a vote, its that kind of shit that makes people suspicious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 51 minutes ago, ManDoon said: It’s very shady to have not paid the money to charity and basically gone into silence. I don't think it's shady, but it's piss poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Joey Linton said: I don't think it's shady, but it's piss poor. I think it’s shady. Either a statement saying the intention is still to work towards buying a stake in the club or one saying now Ashley is gone, they’ll donate the money to charity surely isn’t much? Edited December 22, 2021 by Optimistic Nut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Numbers said: I cancelled everything when the boss Alex Hurst walked back in without a vote, its that kind of shit that makes people suspicious. Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 It was laughable from the off - ‘the Pledge’. Self-publicising wankers unaware of history and the very support that they’re part of - the support was offered the chance to buy a sizeable stake in the club 30 years ago, effectively the chance to run it, and couldn’t raise the couple of million required. Then the floatation in ‘97, where fans bought stock at a minimum of £500 per person, only to find it meant f*** all and eventually got little back when Ashley bought the club. That and the fact that we’ve never exactly been the most organised bunch at the best of times. The notion that they’d buy a 1% stake was a joke. Utterly meaningless. As is the notion of fan ownership of top clubs, without government intervention. Massive announcement to tell us about something which had been tried on a grander scale with a smaller budget, and got nowhere. Basically, this was a fanzine trying to get itself a voice paid for by the public - and the public gave its response in no uncertain terms. The only thing of note that the fanzines ever achieved from my recollection was when The Mag effectively campaigned (and TF, possibly?) managed to get Barry in the Box and Alan F***ing Robson to stop playing that yuppie pish ‘Local Hero’ when the players came out. And how long-lasting was that success? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 The last email I got off them was like a viz comic article Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 I find it unusual a group of mates who talk about NUFC are bringing in money from strangers for being mates who talk about NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 Just seems bizarre the only things they ever try and do is raise money. Memberships Puzzles The pledge Why does a Trust even need money? The purpose of the Trust is to be a middle man and communicate between the club and the fans, giving fans a collective voice. All they need to do is get a solid line of communication with someone meaningful and have a regular meeting to share the opinion of fans. Everything else around or in extension to that is nothing but self-publication. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Why does a Trust even need money? So it looks professional? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: So it looks professional? Why do they need money to engage with the club? You can look professional by having credibility with supporters and the club by maintaining your actual role of communication, rather than going silent for the majority of the time. Edited December 22, 2021 by Fantail Breeze Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 hours ago, MarkyMark said: The only thing of note that the fanzines ever achieved from my recollection was when The Mag effectively campaigned (and TF, possibly?) managed to get Barry in the Box and Alan F***ing Robson to stop playing that yuppie pish ‘Local Hero’ when the players came out. And how long-lasting was that success? How sad it is to read comments like that. I know opinions differ on things, but that collection of words is so wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 3 hours ago, manorpark said: How sad it is to read comments like that. I know opinions differ on things, but that collection of words is so wrong. I know why tf would anyone want to stop that song being played unless they don’t know the history,personally think sweet Caroline is sang by morons at England games when it should be a beatles number not a yank song I just fucking hate the connection now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie2302 Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: Just seems bizarre the only things they ever try and do is raise money. Memberships Puzzles The pledge Why does a Trust even need money? The purpose of the Trust is to be a middle man and communicate between the club and the fans, giving fans a collective voice. All they need to do is get a solid line of communication with someone meaningful and have a regular meeting to share the opinion of fans. Everything else around or in extension to that is nothing but self-publication. the Trust are regulated by the FCA because they are a membership organisation and are designed to benefit the wider community. Their main income should be from fees (members are all shareholders in the Trust) and be directed as to how best utilise that income. They could in theory have their own office or even staff if they wanted to (and it was cost effective) but fundamentally you're right - the main function of a football fan's trust is to communicate effectively with the club and the fans (members and wider community...) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted December 22, 2021 Share Posted December 22, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Biggsbond14 said: I know why tf would anyone want to stop that song being played unless they don’t know the history,personally think sweet Caroline is sang by morons at England games when it should be a beatles number not a yank song I just fucking hate the connection now Including Staveley, Howe, Srnicek, Dubravka, Given and every keeper we've had and now local hero the only thing he hasn't been curmudgeonly about is his defence of the mackems and Alex Ferguson. Edited December 22, 2021 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 17 hours ago, manorpark said: How sad it is to read comments like that. I know opinions differ on things, but that collection of words is so wrong. Dire Straits and Knopfler are pish. And Local Hero has f*** all to do with Newcastle - it’s the theme from a mawkishly sentimental film about an American who goes to a Scottish village and falls in love with the local eccentrics. Why do you think ‘Carmina Burana’ replaced it for a while? Before that bizarre mix of the two later? Barry in the Box playing a tune before kick off from the mid-90s does not a tradition make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 11 hours ago, Wolfcastle said: Including Staveley, Howe, Srnicek, Dubravka, Given and every keeper we've had and now local hero the only thing he hasn't been curmudgeonly about is his defence of the mackems and Alex Ferguson. Hang on - I said Dubravka wasn’t as good as Srnicek or Given, and Howe’s selections have been questionable - and that makes me a curmudgeon? You’ve got me on Staveley mind - but then, the entirety of the new ownership is hardly cuddly. Defence of the Mackems = pointing out that the piss-taking of them singing ‘YNWA’ at OT is something we’ve done ourselves? And the fact that Alex Ferguson took over Man Utd when they were second bottom and they finished mid-table is a ‘defence’ of Ferguson? I’m not the one who made the terrible comparison to Howe. I pointed out that Howe and Ferguson were not comparable at that stage in their careers, given the relative levels of success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 All the problems on and off the pitch that need sorting quickly and people are wanting the Trust to get in touch with the club to change the walk out music? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, MarkyMark said: Dire Straits and Knopfler are pish. And Local Hero has f*** all to do with Newcastle - it’s the theme from a mawkishly sentimental film about an American who goes to a Scottish village and falls in love with the local eccentrics. Why do you think ‘Carmina Burana’ replaced it for a while? Before that bizarre mix of the two later? Barry in the Box playing a tune before kick off from the mid-90s does not a tradition make. The reason it’s played is in it’s name and the artist is from Gosforth ,Newcastle think your ignoring that fact 😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 45 minutes ago, Biggsbond14 said: The reason it’s played is in it’s name and the artist is from Gosforth ,Newcastle think your ignoring that fact 😎 I’m aware of where Knopfler is from - it’s not a fact I’m ignoring at all. It would be as relevant as the team running out to the Pet Shop Boys or the Lighthouse Family. :) I’d prefer them running out to the Blaydon Races - which I understand was also written by a local … Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Er - is Knopfler considered a Geordie now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Biggsbond14 said: The reason it’s played is in it’s name and the artist is from Gosforth ,Newcastle think your ignoring that fact 😎 He was raised in Blyth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, MarkyMark said: Dire Straits and Knopfler are pish. And Local Hero has f*** all to do with Newcastle - it’s the theme from a mawkishly sentimental film about an American who goes to a Scottish village and falls in love with the local eccentrics. Why do you think ‘Carmina Burana’ replaced it for a while? Before that bizarre mix of the two later? Barry in the Box playing a tune before kick off from the mid-90s does not a tradition make. You only have one life you know . . did you know that? To waste it writing such genuine rubbish is a real shame. You could not possibly be more wrong about anything than you are in every sentence of what you have written here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, MarkyMark said: I’m aware of where Knopfler is from - it’s not a fact I’m ignoring at all. It would be as relevant as the team running out to the Pet Shop Boys or the Lighthouse Family. I’d prefer them running out to the Blaydon Races - which I understand was also written by a local … I was watching the Alan Hull documentary on BBC Iplayer last night - presented by Sam Fender. There's a great part in it, where the lads are interviewed in 71? about their new release 'Fog on the Tyne' - saying they'd love it to be as well known to Geordies as the Blaydon Races, and perhaps the 20th century version that all Geordies know. I do like Local Hero, but I do agree that there could be better things to run out to imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 hours ago, MarkyMark said: Dire Straits and Knopfler are pish. I hope you won’t object if I ignore all of your opinions after this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 It’s a great piece of music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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