durhamunigeordie Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thing is, I do feel for him personally because there's nothing different he can do for the goals being conceded, he's just too old, too slow and too small to physically do anything about them. Exactly, he hasn't made a genuine howler to concede a goal, but a good premier league keeper would have saved at least a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 You try to sympathise, then he does shite like that dribbling thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thing is, I do feel for him personally because there's nothing different he can do for the goals being conceded, he's just too old, too slow and too small to physically do anything about them. Exactly, he hasn't made a genuine howler to concede a goal, but a good premier league keeper would have saved at least a couple. He did arguably the biggest howler of the season but got away with it I like Harper, always did but he's clearly past it, can't wait for Krul to get back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 shouldnt be anywhere near our squad, he is simply too old and immobile. he's so slow its unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thing is, I do feel for him personally because there's nothing different he can do for the goals being conceded, he's just too old, too slow and too small to physically do anything about them. Exactly, he hasn't made a genuine howler to concede a goal, but a good premier league keeper would have saved at least a couple. He did arguably the biggest howler of the season but got away with it I like Harper, always did but he's clearly past it, can't wait for Krul to get back. Oh yea the dribbling was a farce, it's just the goals he's conceded I don't believe he could have done much more with, but he just isn't good enough for this level. When he goes down, it's reminds me of how I was taught to fall in drama at school - kind of in three stages with a twist in the middle to ensure minimum impact with the ground. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Typical of our luck really. Krul gets injured. Hitherto maligned Elliott comes in and looks decent. Gets injured. I shudder every time I see Harper donning the gloves. Good bloke but a liability in goal. Please let's see Krul back fit for the mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I still have quite a bit of faith in Harper. Aye, it's quite clear that he's not the keeper he used to be but I don't think he could have done much about the goals today. The first two were mistakes from our defenders and the third goal was a cracking cross-come-shot imo. As a short term measure, I'd still start Harper. Needless to say though, the sooner Krul comes back, the better it is for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 That "I've got this covered" thing he does is a shambles. In the first half, possibly Welbeck smashed the ball across the 6 yard box and he just put his hands up and left it. Anyone running in had a tap in. Why keep doing this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 And yes, his dribble inside his area was stupid. Hope he doesn't do that ever again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 And yes, his dribble inside his area was stupid. Hope he doesn't do that ever again. Would hope so, but he didn't learn his lesson the first time, he did it again. Time to retire I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 And yes, his dribble inside his area was stupid. Hope he doesn't do that ever again. The ball should never have been played back to him in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR15 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 It looked like he tried to take on Welbeck in super slow motion. International break couldn't have arrived at a better time, can't wait to see Krul back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Fucking knee-jerk-tastic in here. Harper has a good game, he's reliable and a great servant to the club as well as a good backup to Krul Harper concedes goals against one of the best teams in the land, and he's past it and a liability Elliott plays badly in pre-season, he's shit. Elliott plays well in 45 minutes, and suddenly he's a massive loss when he's injured. Obviously Harper's attempt to dribble round Welbeck was fucking laughable and disgraceful in almost equal measure, but people need to get a grip and have some perspective and start looking at things over a period of slightly longer than 90 minutes. 37 isn't ancient for a goalkeeper. He's got plenty still left to offer and personally I'm more than happy with him as backup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 This is his last run as our keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Fucking knee-jerk-tastic in here. Harper has a good game, he's reliable and a great servant to the club as well as a good backup to Krul Harper concedes goals against one of the best teams in the land, and he's past it and a liability Elliott plays badly in pre-season, he's shit. Elliott plays well in 45 minutes, and suddenly he's a massive loss when he's injured. Obviously Harper's attempt to dribble round Welbeck was fucking laughable and disgraceful in almost equal measure, but people need to get a grip and have some perspective and start looking at things over a period of slightly longer than 90 minutes. 37 isn't ancient for a goalkeeper. He's got plenty still left to offer and personally I'm more than happy with him as backup. I think you will be in the vast minority there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Harper is clearly past it, embarrassing to see him in goal for us now. When is Krul due back? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 wow massive knee-jerk reaction, he didn't even have a chance for any of the goals. He did two things wrong, which Man United didn't take advantage of. Not one person mentioning the 2-3 good saves Harper made. He is better then Elliot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 He saw the third one the whole way and it wasn't particularly fast. From where I was sat I thought he should have saved it. He wasnt blatantly off his line, and the way Cleverly shaped up, it was almost certainly a cross. A taller keeper would have saved it imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyeyzzon Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 His decision making yesterday was pretty shocking for an experienced keeper imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 f***ing knee-jerk-tastic in here. Harper has a good game, he's reliable and a great servant to the club as well as a good backup to Krul Harper concedes goals against one of the best teams in the land, and he's past it and a liability Elliott plays badly in pre-season, he's s***. Elliott plays well in 45 minutes, and suddenly he's a massive loss when he's injured. Obviously Harper's attempt to dribble round Welbeck was f***ing laughable and disgraceful in almost equal measure, but people need to get a grip and have some perspective and start looking at things over a period of slightly longer than 90 minutes. 37 isn't ancient for a goalkeeper. He's got plenty still left to offer and personally I'm more than happy with him as backup. I think you will be in the vast minority there Ofcourse he is, that doesnt mean hes wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 And yes, his dribble inside his area was stupid. Hope he doesn't do that ever again. The ball should never have been played back to him in that position. There should also have been a full back for him to pass to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 wow massive knee-jerk reaction, he didn't even have a chance for any of the goals. He did two things wrong, which Man United didn't take advantage of. Not one person mentioning the 2-3 good saves Harper made. He is better then Elliot. Not sure of that excuses it.. I'm not sure if Krul would have done better on the corners, but Harper surely doesn't command his area well enough. He's not the tallest and has lost whatever spring he had, meaning he's not only vulnerable on the ground but also in the air. The only thing still on par for a Premiership goalkeeper is his reflexes. He did make some good saves too, but there's no denying we've lost valuable points in Krul's absence. I'm not sure how you can say he's better than Elliot too. The latter has been fairly solid this season after a shaky start and has age on his side. There's still a chance he could be a reliable back up for years to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Did anybody notice who was covering him on the bench? He's the best we had and that's not his fault, we're lucky we had him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Reaction to goals conceded from Harper's detractors are tediously predictable. Amazing how he has been solely to blame for every goal conceded since he came into the team. I guess by that logic we wouldn't have conceded any had he not been playing As a back 5 (including Harper) we were shambolic early in yesterday's game. Harper was not to blame for the goals, although trying to do a "Pav" past Wellbeck was a bad decision. Watching the Barca - Madrid game later made me think that Harper would have been roundly condemned for conceding at least 3 of the 4 goals by detractors on here. As Mick pointed out we had a "schoolkid" covering Harper yesterday . At this moment in time he's the best we've got. Please get well soon Timmy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 Did anybody notice who was covering him on the bench? He's the best we had and that's not his fault, we're lucky we had him. Plus it seems everyone lines up to hammer him at every opportunity. Sad really as other than the daft dribble which he had no help at all from he didnt do much wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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