Hughesy Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I think the point is that Given and Harper were pretty much level at one point and then Given got the nod. He went in and raised his game and cemented the spot as his. I suppose the question is whether, had Harper got the chance, he would have gone on to be as good as Given. Harper would almost certainly have improved to a degree, you would think. I always thought he commanded his box better than Given, but didn't have the shot stopping ability that Given had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 He was never as good as Given. Given had a poor spell and in stepped Harper who did well then Given got his place back and made sure he kept Harper on the bench for most part after that. People are confusing form with quality and comparing both side by side. Is like comparing Shola in a purple patch to Cisse at the start of the season, if both happened at the same time it doesn't make Shola the better striker. It's a classic example of why you need competition in every slot and why the likes of Simpson haven't improved for nearly two years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 http://images.icnetwork.co.uk/upl/nechronical/feb2008/6/1/412DB441-F511-B7D5-5A7D3A9025F76E6B.jpg f***ing absurd when we decided to do that. fucking absurd Matty Pattison played for us. What utter garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Him and a fair few other youngsters that 'came through' around that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Him and a fair few other youngsters that 'came through' around that time. One of them in the background too. Plus the likes of Huntingdon....Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 We didnt "underrate" Harper, instead we "overrate" Given. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Given was not over rated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 He was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Rightfully in the team of the season twice and won us about 10 points a season. Wasn't like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I just don't know what to say.................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Fantastic player and person to have around the club, also as others have said seems very intelligent. Hope we keep him on in a coaching role or get him back later if he leaves. I was watching bbc2 at 4am one time about ten years, when i stumbled upon a really good interview with Steve Harper. He was talking to the open university about stuff he was studying and how he fitted in with playing football. I forget wether he was studying through the OU or whatnot but he's definately not your typical footballer. That being said it was 4am and chances are i was chewing my eyebrows off, it could have been Carol Vorderman being interviewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I'd imagine it's relatively straight forward to fit an open university course into your day as a footballer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henke Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I'd imagine it's relatively straight forward to fit an open university course into your day as a footballer Err, Nile Ranger never managed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Tbf to Nile, he did complete a GNVQ in concise literature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Rightfully in the team of the season twice and won us about 10 points a season. Wasn't like. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roy the Irish Magpie Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Anyone who has forgotten how class Shay was for us and now thinks we over rated him, you should look up that save he made from Kevin Phillips again, as well as all his other saves, he was class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I always thought he was overrated, especially by the media and at SJP, though not so much on here. But yes, he was class. As a keeper and a bloke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Do we really need a campaign from a cricketer in the sun for him to have a testimonial? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Linked with the Hartlepool job: http://www.shieldsgazette.com/sport/football/newcastle-s-steve-harper-among-names-in-frame-for-hartlepool-job-1-5662316 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Him and a fair few other youngsters that 'came through' around that time. Seemed to me at the time that Roeder was trying everything except to play Luque, had to whole reserves team and Shola Ameobi on the left wing ahead of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 Him and a fair few other youngsters that 'came through' around that time. Seemed to me at the time that Roeder was trying everything except to play Luque, had to whole reserves team and Shola Ameobi on the left wing ahead of him Aye. O'Brien, Pattison... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Made up for him that he will get the proper send off he deserves. Cretins probably wouldn't have played him even if we were safe. True servant and gent of the club. Fate has been deservedly kind! Still shit the bed when he had to come on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 His 199th NUFC appearance today. 200th next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Did he have to touch the ball? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Will it be his 200th appearance as well? EDIT: Seemingly yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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