Guest michaelfoster Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 NEWCASTLE have introduced a new long-term transfer strategy aimed at bringing extra youth – and value – to their squad. The Sunday Sun understands that United applied strict fresh criteria to their transfer business in January, vetoing any full-time signings over the age of 26. Coupled with a new wage ceiling imposed by owner Mike Ashley, the change in policy confirms the end of trophy signings at St James’ Park. All of the Magpies’ four buys last month were in their early or mid-20s, with 29-year-old Fitz Hall only arriving on loan. And Newcastle turned down the chance to buy Birmingham City’s Geordie centre-half Martin Taylor because he is 30. Agents and clubs were told at the start of the transfer window that United would no longer pay wages of more than £15,000 a week and were only interested in permanent deals for players with their best years ahead of them. This represents a sea change in attitude from the days when Newcastle would routinely outbid rival clubs – and outdo their wage offers – to land established, high-profile players, some of whom remain at St James’ Park on big money. One agent said: “Newcastle say they are fed up with paying big money to players at or around the 30 mark, and are cutting their cloth accordingly. “It’s all change from the days when clubs and players could rely on getting big money if Newcastle came in for them.” ------------ thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 "understands that" = read it in the News of the World. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Makes sense and we were a dumping ground for others teams expensive tatt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 It is right to want players just before they peak, or near the start of their peak as that is something we've got massively wrong in the past. However, the £15,000 better be for this division only, as even a half decent 21 year old will want more than that and we have to be competitive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Buying young players is easy. Buying good young players is another matter entirely... Actions speak louder than words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Good plan, hope the 15k wage cap increases in the prem. We'll go down if not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I agree with it on many levels, but I'd like to think that allowances could be made in exceptional circumstances. Plus a £15k a week wage cap's going to get you nowhere in the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I agree with it on many levels, but I'd like to think that allowances could be made in exceptional circumstances. Plus a £15k a week wage cap's going to get you nowhere in the Premier League. We dont know that yet Inter, other clubs might start imposing the same controls on wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Maybe the £15k per week is why we didn't get Moses? Anyone reckon he'll be on more than that at Wigan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Maybe the £15k per week is why we didn't get Moses? Anyone reckon he'll be on more than that at Wigan? yes, but he will need to go when they get relegated, as they are massively in debt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 a policy like this has to be a guideline rather than a strict rule. the last time club insiders came up with things like rubbishing targets such as richard dunne for having no 'resale value' - as if they thought that would sound sensible as a way to tarnish KK. that kind of thinking is simply insane, if a player is right for the club it doesnt matter if they are over a certain age. sometimes getting in an older player is exactly what you need. if you end up pissing off the manager than the rule ends up being massively counter productive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 NEWCASTLE have introduced a new long-term transfer strategy aimed at bringing extra youth – and value – to their squad. The Sunday Sun understands that United applied strict fresh criteria to their transfer business in January, vetoing any full-time signings over the age of 26. Coupled with a new wage ceiling imposed by owner Mike Ashley, the change in policy confirms the end of trophy signings at St James’ Park. All of the Magpies’ four buys last month were in their early or mid-20s, with 29-year-old Fitz Hall only arriving on loan. And Newcastle turned down the chance to buy Birmingham City’s Geordie centre-half Martin Taylor because he is 30. Agents and clubs were told at the start of the transfer window that United would no longer pay wages of more than £15,000 a week and were only interested in permanent deals for players with their best years ahead of them. This represents a sea change in attitude from the days when Newcastle would routinely outbid rival clubs – and outdo their wage offers – to land established, high-profile players, some of whom remain at St James’ Park on big money. One agent said: “Newcastle say they are fed up with paying big money to players at or around the 30 mark, and are cutting their cloth accordingly. “It’s all change from the days when clubs and players could rely on getting big money if Newcastle came in for them.” ------------ thoughts? And are all Championship level players... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I don't think many fans are expecting a constant stream of top level signings these days but a seasonal 'marquee signing' mixed with good solid pro's (Williamson etc) and young lads with potential (Moses) would be one way of gradually improving the overall quality of the squad along with reducing capital outlay and managing wages. The original article is pretty much what everyone has assumed was the case anyway and why nobody is linking us with daft signings any more iyam. And when you look at the state of finances in football more widely I'd reckon all but 4 clubs will adopt the same strategy if they haven't already and why we need to be investing in the youth setup and the scouting arrangements more than ever before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Words. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I dont give a shit really what he spends on players but i wish he would break the bank to get the right manager in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novocastrian Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 NEWCASTLE have introduced a new long-term transfer strategy aimed at bringing extra youth – and value – to their squad. The Sunday Sun understands that United applied strict fresh criteria to their transfer business in January, vetoing any full-time signings over the age of 26. Coupled with a new wage ceiling imposed by owner Mike Ashley, the change in policy confirms the end of trophy signings at St James’ Park. All of the Magpies’ four buys last month were in their early or mid-20s, with 29-year-old Fitz Hall only arriving on loan. And Newcastle turned down the chance to buy Birmingham City’s Geordie centre-half Martin Taylor because he is 30. Agents and clubs were told at the start of the transfer window that United would no longer pay wages of more than £15,000 a week and were only interested in permanent deals for players with their best years ahead of them. This represents a sea change in attitude from the days when Newcastle would routinely outbid rival clubs – and outdo their wage offers – to land established, high-profile players, some of whom remain at St James’ Park on big money. One agent said: “Newcastle say they are fed up with paying big money to players at or around the 30 mark, and are cutting their cloth accordingly. “It’s all change from the days when clubs and players could rely on getting big money if Newcastle came in for them.” ------------ thoughts? And are all Championship level players... Exactly, no evidence of a 'long term strategy' there at all. Taking a gamble on up and coming players (Beckford, Moses etc) is one thing but we aren't even doing that. Just scouring the league for cheap buys and squad fillers on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Sounds good but I am sure I have heard this all before. Beckford is 27 this year, not really "up and coming". Moses definitely is though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Remember folks, the Sunday Sun is currently banned from SJP so this is more than likely just speculation. If it is true however, it can be viewed in a number of ways. Firstly, Ashley could intend to keep on running us on the cheap and we return to the day's of the 80's and once more become a feeder club for the big boys. Take that in tandem with becoming a yo-yo club between the Prem and the Championship. However, it's one thing having this youth policy, but you have to buy in the quality first off and be prepared to pay for it. Think we've all had enough of the has beens who view us as an easy meal ticket. It's about finding a balance, but I'm not convinced that this is Ashley's true objective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I think this policy has been a long time coming after the money we have squandered on very ordinary players past their peak. I think we will miss out on some real talent though unless we are a bit more flexible. The chance to sign Moses for a low-ish fee was missed because we refused to budge, and only time will tell if signing Best will prove better value in the long term. I'd be surprised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 surely Ashley will put the club back on the market again if we go up? Not saying it's guarranted to be sold.... but it's still a bit to early to be bothered by reporting from some newspaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 The average wage in the PL last season was 21k a week, so if this policy is true the best we can hope for would be adding below average PL players to our current squad. It would also mean that S.Taylor, Enrique & Sideshow Bob will be off when their contacts expire, or a year earlier if we want to get a transfer fee for them. A squad of 30 all on 15k a week would cost about £23m a year. Assuming our turnover got close to the £100m we used to get in the PL that’s a lot of spare cash – I wonder were it will all be going? Drastically reduced ticket prices to reflect the drastically reduced quality of the players we would be watching perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikri Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 So this is Ashley returning to The System, the one that caused Keegan to quit but with an added pay cap. Thought the new pay cap was common knowledge anyway? There were loads of stories last month about how the club weren't prepared to pay anyone over £30k per week any more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 Pies, glorious pies. Cheap Chicken and Balti. Ashley wants a slice, with Gravy and salty. He is just a fat f***, he doesn't like footy, oh Ashley is fat, Ashley is fat, Ashleys a twaaat. Ashley is.... FAT. Phat. Off the heezy. Shizham! ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I agree we need to lower our wage bill but 15 ka week seems a little bit low to be competitive in the prem and that's only when you consider bringing players in never mind keeping the decent players we have. As for only signing players unser 26 i don't realy have a problem with that (asmlong as we keep our good players aswell) imo experience is over rated i think the likes of butt and geremi prove that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 I am pretty sure the £15k per week refers to this Jan signings. As someone else said there was something in one of the papers that the ceiling for new players signed would be £30K per week if the team is in PL next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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