Dinho lad Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 There's going to be a siberski type signing, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Comparing this to Robinho is crazy man, those Arabs turned up and wanted to spunk £30m+ on any household name they could. They were also trying to bring in Berbatov that day and perhaps a few others. We appear to squabbling over differences of 1 or 2 million. I think there's a good chance we'll bring in 2 players before the window shuts, but have a feeling we'll buy the left back we need but not the striker. Wouldn't be surprised if we bid £8m for Adam Johnson or Jermaine Defoe at about 10.30pm just for the hell of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Macheda and one of the two young LB's from Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/pardew-carroll-tried-to-hold-newcastle-to-ransom-2201276.html "I said to Mike, 'Look, if that boy is going to go, this money has to be reinvested in the team. All of it.' And he assured me of that. So to Newcastle fans, that is the most important message I can give. That money will be used. It could not be used [on Monday], we made a couple of bids and were quoted extortionate figures. It was ridiculous. "It would have been paying over-inflated prices for a lesser product than Andy Carroll. So unfortunately, as I sit here now, I am weaker than I was yesterday. No, I'm not comfortable with it, but it is what it is." Good job we've not made that mistake again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 There's going to be a siberski type signing, imo. If we're lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 How many times under Ashley have we had a satisfactory conclusion to transfer window? Being kind, maybe twice? It's far more likely that we'll see a high profile departure rather than anyone coming in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 earlier in the summer we were told that we're waiting for the prices to come down....yet now we know...prices are always inflated near the end of the window. at what point are prices neither too hot, too cold, but just right, goldilocks? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Comparing this to Robinho is crazy man, those Arabs turned up and wanted to spunk £30m+ on any household name they could. They were also trying to bring in Berbatov that day and perhaps a few others. We appear to squabbling over differences of 1 or 2 million. I think there's a good chance we'll bring in 2 players before the window shuts, but have a feeling we'll buy the left back we need but not the striker. Wouldn't be surprised if we bid £8m for Adam Johnson or Jermaine Defoe at about 10.30pm just for the hell of it. The Robinho comparison was only brought up to show there's still plenty of time to get deals done. If we are serious about doing them time isn't the issue. If the striker and left back aren't here by Wednesday it's because we didn't want them enough plain and simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Comparing this to Robinho is crazy man, those Arabs turned up and wanted to spunk £30m+ on any household name they could. They were also trying to bring in Berbatov that day and perhaps a few others. We appear to squabbling over differences of 1 or 2 million. I think there's a good chance we'll bring in 2 players before the window shuts, but have a feeling we'll buy the left back we need but not the striker. Wouldn't be surprised if we bid £8m for Adam Johnson or Jermaine Defoe at about 10.30pm just for the hell of it. The Robinho comparison was only brought up to show there's still plenty of time to get deals done. If we are serious about doing them time isn't the issue. If the striker and left back aren't here by Wednesday it's because we didn't want them enough plain and simple. If by want them you mean pay the going rate then yeah, I agree. Perhaps more than the going rate since the fannying around has left the other team with no time to find a replacement and most clubs aren't as reckless as us in that situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 earlier in the summer we were told that we're waiting for the prices to come down....yet now we know...prices are always inflated near the end of the window. at what point are prices neither too hot, too cold, but just right, goldilocks? Yep, I've made this point before too. At every stage during a window we make excuses why it's wrong to buy now. I'm sure the papers tomorrow will have Pardew rabbiting on about "gearing up for the last day". Load of shite basically, we just don't want to spend money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 earlier in the summer we were told that we're waiting for the prices to come down....yet now we know...prices are always inflated near the end of the window. at what point are prices neither too hot, too cold, but just right, goldilocks? never, prices are bad mmkay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakie Doke Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 There's going to be a siberski type signing, imo. a bald French guy? http://img.skysports.com/09/07/218x298/GabrielObertan_2326453.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 earlier in the summer we were told that we're waiting for the prices to come down....yet now we know...prices are always inflated near the end of the window. at what point are prices neither too hot, too cold, but just right, goldilocks? Yep, I've made this point before too. At every stage during a window we make excuses why it's wrong to buy now. I'm sure the papers tomorrow will have Pardew rabbiting on about "gearing up for the last day". Load of shite basically, we just don't want to spend money. The thing is we must want to spend some money or else we'd have surely just bought a cheap, shite left back and a cheap, shite striker by now. I look at Obertan and think we made the choice between him and N'Zogbia and went for the cheaper option. With the targets we've apparently got at the minute it looks like we've identified them and thought "what will the selling club be after?" and knocked £3m off it and bid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 earlier in the summer we were told that we're waiting for the prices to come down....yet now we know...prices are always inflated near the end of the window. at what point are prices neither too hot, too cold, but just right, goldilocks? Yep, I've made this point before too. At every stage during a window we make excuses why it's wrong to buy now. I'm sure the papers tomorrow will have Pardew rabbiting on about "gearing up for the last day". Load of shite basically, we just don't want to spend money. The thing is we must want to spend some money or else we'd have surely just bought a cheap, shite left back and a cheap, shite striker by now. I look at Obertan and think we made the choice between him and N'Zogbia and went for the cheaper option. With the targets we've apparently got at the minute it looks like we've identified them and thought "what will the selling club be after?" and knocked £3m off it and bid. Ryan Taylor is doing an acceptable job, why spend money if we don't have to? We've scored goals, why buy a striker? That's what we're dealing with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Comparing this to Robinho is crazy man, those Arabs turned up and wanted to spunk £30m+ on any household name they could. They were also trying to bring in Berbatov that day and perhaps a few others. We appear to squabbling over differences of 1 or 2 million. I think there's a good chance we'll bring in 2 players before the window shuts, but have a feeling we'll buy the left back we need but not the striker. Wouldn't be surprised if we bid £8m for Adam Johnson or Jermaine Defoe at about 10.30pm just for the hell of it. The Robinho comparison was only brought up to show there's still plenty of time to get deals done. If we are serious about doing them time isn't the issue. If the striker and left back aren't here by Wednesday it's because we didn't want them enough plain and simple. If by want them you mean pay the going rate then yeah, I agree. Perhaps more than the going rate since the fannying around has left the other team with no time to find a replacement and most clubs aren't as reckless as us in that situation. Well we've gambled on brinkmanship, if it hasn't worked we'll just have to pay what it takes to get the deals done. When you leave it late there isn't a plan B and that's the option we took so suck it up and pay the money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 earlier in the summer we were told that we're waiting for the prices to come down....yet now we know...prices are always inflated near the end of the window. at what point are prices neither too hot, too cold, but just right, goldilocks? Yep, I've made this point before too. At every stage during a window we make excuses why it's wrong to buy now. I'm sure the papers tomorrow will have Pardew rabbiting on about "gearing up for the last day". Load of shite basically, we just don't want to spend money. The thing is we must want to spend some money or else we'd have surely just bought a cheap, shite left back and a cheap, shite striker by now. I look at Obertan and think we made the choice between him and N'Zogbia and went for the cheaper option. With the targets we've apparently got at the minute it looks like we've identified them and thought "what will the selling club be after?" and knocked £3m off it and bid. Ryan Taylor is doing an acceptable job, why spend money if we don't have to? We've scored goals, why buy a striker? That's what we're dealing with. Yeah possibly but I think we'll buy a left back out of pure necessity. Probably another signing that's a bit random and not the out-and-out striker we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 earlier in the summer we were told that we're waiting for the prices to come down....yet now we know...prices are always inflated near the end of the window. at what point are prices neither too hot, too cold, but just right, goldilocks? Yep, I've made this point before too. At every stage during a window we make excuses why it's wrong to buy now. I'm sure the papers tomorrow will have Pardew rabbiting on about "gearing up for the last day". Load of shite basically, we just don't want to spend money. The thing is we must want to spend some money or else we'd have surely just bought a cheap, shite left back and a cheap, shite striker by now. I look at Obertan and think we made the choice between him and N'Zogbia and went for the cheaper option. With the targets we've apparently got at the minute it looks like we've identified them and thought "what will the selling club be after?" and knocked £3m off it and bid. Ryan Taylor is doing an acceptable job, why spend money if we don't have to? We've scored goals, why buy a striker? That's what we're dealing with. exactly, it's the 'do everything on the cheap above everything else' attitude that's going to hold us back for as long as he's here. success despite ashley is the best we can hope for. we're fucking hopeless going forward as well like, it's embarrassing. and as it stands we're a long term injury to taylor or colo away from a relegation scrap imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 There's a lot of truth in this. Ashley is the sort of business man who spends only when he absolutely has to. Playing devils advocate, why should we spend money when we have Ryan Taylor and Fergie to cover left back? Up front Best looks confident and we also have Shola, Ba, Lovenkrands supported by some promising kids. We don't really need to spend money as it's not really essential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 There's a lot of truth in this. Ashley is the sort of business man who spends only when he absolutely has to. Playing devils advocate, why should we spend money when we have Ryan Taylor and Fergie to cover left back? Up front Best looks confident and we also have Shola, Ba, Lovenkrands supported by some promising kids. We don't really need to spend money as it's not really essential. You only have to look at Pardew's repeated comments about having to 'convince' Ashley & co to spend money to see that's the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 This is also where his actual ambition comes in. If we spend on a striker and a left-back in the coming days, we have a squad that will be very capable of finishing top 10 and maybe threaten 7th. If we don't, I can see us having a season very similar to last one. Thing is, Ashley would be happy with that. He only cares about the club maintaining it's Premiership status while asset stripping/trimming of wage bill. Not sure we'll see any players coming in this week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I think we need to get into the mindset that we are not going to spend The excuses will be one of two: 1) We bid for players but it difficult getting them over the line. When you buy a player it is important you buy better than what you have got. We need first team players not players who are going to sit on the bench or 2) We have dtarted the season well. We have 3 wins and a draw out of 4 games. The team spirit we have here is second to one and if we continue the way we are we will be alright Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Ashleys lucked out again as it's a long time between the window closing and our next home game. Enough time for the anger to simmer down a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I'd be lying if I said I was 100% sure we'd get the players in, but I'm still pretty confident, and certainly don't see the need to be as downbeat about it as some of you guys. But hey ho, I can understand your view too. It's happened too many times before. That's me as well basically. Previously we've usually said we weren't going to make any more signings, and this time we've clearly got deals in the pipeline. It would be usual form for us to fail to deliver at the final hurdle though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Ashleys lucked out again as it's a long time between the window closing and our next home game. Enough time for the anger to simmer down a bit. You're absolutely right but even then I don't think he gives a fuck about our reaction anyway regardless of the timing. He simply doesn't care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WashyGeordie Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I'd be lying if I said I was 100% sure we'd get the players in, but I'm still pretty confident, and certainly don't see the need to be as downbeat about it as some of you guys. But hey ho, I can understand your view too. It's happened too many times before. That's me as well basically. Previously we've usually said we weren't going to make any more signings, and this time we've clearly got deals in the pipeline. It would be usual form for us to fail to deliver at the final hurdle though. The thing is for Wednesday (or last year for that matter) is we don't seem to be panic buying anymore like Sibierski, who alright tbf, he was alright in the end and scored a few, but at the time was seen as a 'joke'. I think we'll have a couple of players lined up already, hopefully a LB and striker, and they will get done before, if not on Wed. Maybe i'm getting too hopeful though and it'll just be a GK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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