Tooj Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Unless Coloccini is leaving, with Williamson back there's no reason for us to sign a brilliant centre half IMO. A younger player or someone solid that can just fill in better than Simpson or Perch (not too difficult) would suffice, another Williamson if you like. There's no way we can't afford a striker as well. Instead of looking at this start to the season and imagining what we could do with the mountains of cash remaining from the last 12 months of player sales, they're just looking at the minimum we can get away with. We're one game away from halfway through the season, and currently we stand one point behind 6th, three points behind 5th and four points behind a Champions League place. There's the basis of a really good team here already. Fucking dream a little. Well said Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Unless Coloccini is leaving, with Williamson back there's no reason for us to sign a brilliant centre half IMO. A younger player or someone solid that can just fill in better than Simpson or Perch (not too difficult) would suffice, another Williamson if you like. There's no way we can't afford a striker as well. Instead of looking at this start to the season and imagining what we could do with the mountains of cash remaining from the last 12 months of player sales, they're just looking at the minimum we can get away with. We're one game away from halfway through the season, and currently we stand one point behind 6th, three points behind 5th and four points behind a Champions League place. There's the basis of a really good team here already. Fucking dream a little. You'd like to think that the decent season we're having would have perked a few imagination buds in the ole boardroom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Unless Coloccini is leaving, with Williamson back there's no reason for us to sign a brilliant centre half IMO. A younger player or someone solid that can just fill in better than Simpson or Perch (not too difficult) would suffice, another Williamson if you like. There's no way we can't afford a striker as well. Instead of looking at this start to the season and imagining what we could do with the mountains of cash remaining from the last 12 months of player sales, they're just looking at the minimum we can get away with. We're one game away from halfway through the season, and currently we stand one point behind 6th, three points behind 5th and four points behind a Champions League place. There's the basis of a really good team here already. Fucking dream a little. Well said Dave. Yep, very good summary of where we're at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Unless Coloccini is leaving, with Williamson back there's no reason for us to sign a brilliant centre half IMO. A younger player or someone solid that can just fill in better than Simpson or Perch (not too difficult) would suffice, another Williamson if you like. There's no way we can't afford a striker as well. Instead of looking at this start to the season and imagining what we could do with the mountains of cash remaining from the last 12 months of player sales, they're just looking at the minimum we can get away with. We're one game away from halfway through the season, and currently we stand one point behind 6th, three points behind 5th and four points behind a Champions League place. There's the basis of a really good team here already. Fucking dream a little. Well said Dave. Yep, very good summary of where we're at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Newcastle United abandon striker hunt after Modibo Maiga move collapse http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16345791.stm Newcastle will lose 14-goal Demba Ba, who plays for Senegal, to Africa Cup of Nations duty in the coming weeks. It will leave the Magpies with Leon Best, Shola and Sammy Ameobi and Peter Lovenkrands as the only strikers in the first-team squad. Mint. Luckily Harper's back up north, he used to want to be a striker, didn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 We are being mugged again, before Taylor got injured we needed a striker and a LB now we need a striker, LB and a CB. Its crazy not to even attempt to try and sign a striker are they honestly expecting us to believe they only had one target in mind and when that deal failed due to his medical we had no other options. BOLLOCKS as soon as Taylor got injured we were never going to spend money on Miaga, the money for him now has to go on a CB, thats not the right way to do it. Invest more fucking money in signings, we are not asking for an extra £20m but enough to get us what we need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 i've said all i need to say on the board, they're people who base every single decision on getting a 'deal' and the team comes second in every way. that said i think a really good attacking left back could transform our side so if we come out of the window with one of those and a centre half (and dont sell anyone good) i'll be happy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It's almost like they're scared of success. Finish too high and the expectation is there to invest and push on. They're that used to doing things on a shoestring that they don't know how to react now we've had a great start to the season. They're either unable or unwilling to capitalise on it. Fuck knows why. If the money isn't there then fair enough, no-one wants us to spend money we've not got, but there was cash available for Maiga so why just give up? Was it Maiga or no-one? Ah, fuck it. Not going to get worked up about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 It's almost like they're scared of success. Finish too high and the expectation is there to invest and push on. They're that used to doing things on a shoestring that they don't know how to react now we've had a great start to the season. They're either unable or unwilling to capitalise on it. Fuck knows why. If the money isn't there then fair enough, no-one wants us to spend money we've not got, but there was cash available for Maiga so why just give up? Was it Maiga or no-one? Ah, fuck it. Not going to get worked up about it. the attraction with Maiga was that we'd unsettled him to the point where he wouldnt play for Sochaux anymore and therefore we were getting him at a cut price deal, if there's no-one else available at what is seen as a bargain, we wont get anyone i honestly think our incoming transfers involve carr telling ashley how much he reckons a player will be worth after at least a season in the premier league, and the decision is based on that. it's not colocho's 300% but it's the one constant in our transfer dealings, cut price deals for players that we can sell for more if someone takes a liking to them. it's business sense but it doesnt cater specifically for the teams needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Newcastle United abandon striker hunt after Modibo Maiga move collapse http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/16345791.stm Newcastle will lose 14-goal Demba Ba, who plays for Senegal, to Africa Cup of Nations duty in the coming weeks. It will leave the Magpies with Leon Best, Shola and Sammy Ameobi and Peter Lovenkrands as the only strikers in the first-team squad. Mint. Luckily Harper's back up north, he used to want to be a striker, didn't he? Bit misleading that mind, would say Ben Arfa's one of our strikers now by the looks of it but at the same time Sammy generally plays nowhere but on the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Midds - the Carroll money should still be there, should it not? Unless of course it has left the club by now for places unknown...... When are the club accounts due again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 So Pardew has been told it's either a striker or defender. FFS what's wrong with buying both??? Same old s*** from this board, dear oh dear. We'll be walking a tight rope a la centre back situation the first half of the season. What is wrong with this board, christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Midds - the Carroll money should still be there, should it not? Unless of course it has left the club by now for places unknown...... When are the club accounts due again? Last year they came out 1st April, expect something similar this time around. We already know from Llambias' public utterances that an operating loss of around £4-5m was recorded- although not expressly confirmed this figure is usually pre-player trading. The club should be recording a sizable profit- but I will be far more interested to 'follow the money' and see changes in the club's cash posistion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2011/12/28/harry-redknapp-keeping-eye-on-nufc-s-krul-and-tiote-72703-30020928/ Harry Redknapp has run the rule over NUFC stars Tim Krul and Cheick Tiote ahead of the January sales. The Chronicle can reveal that Harry Redknapp dispatched his chief scout Ian Broomfield to the Reebok Stadium on Boxing Day to keep an eye on the pair’s progress. And he did not leave disappointed as both players put in solid performances in the 2-0 win at Bolton Wanderers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Midds - the Carroll money should still be there, should it not? Unless of course it has left the club by now for places unknown...... When are the club accounts due again? Who fucking knows mate, who knows? It's come into the club in January, we only spent about £5m (net, taking into account the agents fees and all) over the summer and we're getting 50k+ through the doors again. I assume most of the money is still there somewhere but we can't be sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Need a centre back and a striker... http://img.skysports.com/10/09/800x600/Blackburn-Rovers-Christopher-Samba_2502108.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Oh FFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Some of the reactions to the striker 'news' on here are ridiculous. We had Modibo Maiga ready to sign, everything was agreed and then he fails his medical. What is the club suppossed to do at this point? From some people's reactions on here they want a return to the past where we panic buy and spend £10m+ on a striker who we clearly don't know nearly enough about to justify spending that much money. Yes, it is frustrating but people need to realise the other circumstances in play. We've found out we need to find a new striker target less than a month before the January transfer window opens. By the sounds of it we've had Maiga as a nearly done deal for some months so we've not been actively pursuing other strikers in that period. So we're left scrambling to find a player to try and sign in a ridiculously short period of time. On top of that even if we identify a player we like we then have to pursuade the club to sell, agree a fee (which because its January will be several million over the price we'd pay in summer) and then agree terms with the player. Frankly I think it is a thoroughly sensible approach being taken by the club. We're not in any danger of relegation and we have Ba, Ben Arfa, Best, Amoebi, Lovenkrands who can all play upfront. Better to save our money and get someone who we really want in the summer than panic buy in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Why the fuck would Harry want Tiote? They're not short of defensive midfielders. Krul on the other hand.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Some of the reactions to the striker 'news' on here are ridiculous. We had Modibo Maiga ready to sign, everything was agreed and then he fails his medical. What is the club suppossed to do at this point? From some people's reactions on here they want a return to the past where we panic buy and spend £10m+ on a striker who we clearly don't know nearly enough about to justify spending that much money. Yes, it is frustrating but people need to realise the other circumstances in play. We've found out we need to find a new striker target less than a month before the January transfer window opens. By the sounds of it we've had Maiga as a nearly done deal for some months so we've not been actively pursuing other strikers in that period. So we're left scrambling to find a player to try and sign in a ridiculously short period of time. On top of that even if we identify a player we like we then have to pursuade the club to sell, agree a fee (which because its January will be several million over the price we'd pay in summer) and then agree terms with the player. Frankly I think it is a thoroughly sensible approach being taken by the club. We're not in any danger of relegation and we have Ba, Ben Arfa, Best, Amoebi, Lovenkrands who can all play upfront. Better to save our money and get someone who we really want in the summer than panic buy in January. Says it all, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Failed his medical Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Some of the reactions to the striker 'news' on here are ridiculous. We had Modibo Maiga ready to sign, everything was agreed and then he fails his medical. What is the club suppossed to do at this point? From some people's reactions on here they want a return to the past where we panic buy and spend £10m+ on a striker who we clearly don't know nearly enough about to justify spending that much money. Yes, it is frustrating but people need to realise the other circumstances in play. We've found out we need to find a new striker target less than a month before the January transfer window opens. By the sounds of it we've had Maiga as a nearly done deal for some months so we've not been actively pursuing other strikers in that period. So we're left scrambling to find a player to try and sign in a ridiculously short period of time. On top of that even if we identify a player we like we then have to pursuade the club to sell, agree a fee (which because its January will be several million over the price we'd pay in summer) and then agree terms with the player. Frankly I think it is a thoroughly sensible approach being taken by the club. We're not in any danger of relegation and we have Ba, Ben Arfa, Best, Amoebi, Lovenkrands who can all play upfront. Better to save our money and get someone who we really want in the summer than panic buy in January. please tell me you realise these two aspects of a transfer are linked? whoever we 'really want' is based on price, not on what the team needs. have you been asleep for a while? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Why the fuck would Harry want Tiote? They're not short of defensive midfielders. Krul on the other hand.. He has Gk's coming out of his ears too, cant see this story having any traction tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Frankly I think it is a thoroughly sensible approach being taken by the club. We're not in any danger of relegation and we have Ba, Ben Arfa, Best, Amoebi, Lovenkrands who can all play upfront. Better to save our money and get someone who we really want in the summer than panic buy in January. If the club can get 50,000 people sharing your view, Ashley has got himself a nifty business model. Staying up is enough, and a professional footballer is a professional footballer, no matter what their actual level of quality may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Some of the reactions to the striker 'news' on here are ridiculous. We had Modibo Maiga ready to sign, everything was agreed and then he fails his medical. What is the club suppossed to do at this point? Perhaps he shouldn't have been our only possible option out of all the forwards in the in the world? There's always a possibility of a transfer falling through, most clubs don't have to go "Oh well, we can't get that guy to come and fill the big centre forward shaped hole in our team, so that's that then, we don't get anyone." We've found out we need to find a new striker target less than a month before the January transfer window opens. By the sounds of it we've had Maiga as a nearly done deal for some months so we've not been actively pursuing other strikers in that period. Why fucking not? Didn't we have this with Erdinc last time, where we chased on guy for months, it didn't come off, we had no back-up plan and just gave up? Better to save our money and get someone who we really want in the summer Presumably in the summer it'll be better to save our money and get someone we really want in January? Or do you want us to go all crazy and spend £8m on a player who isn't on crutches or doesn't have a boarderline personality disorder or who may not really exist when we could be going for the one available person who ticks every Ashley box as a cheap gamble who's unexpectedly on the market and might treble in price in a season's time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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