Ronaldo Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I honestly don't think Perch has the capabilities to be an effective CB. If the opposition is more known to attack along the ground (and through the middle), then fair enough, Perch might be able to do some sort of job at CB but really though, Perch is more prone to mistakes in this position imo. The way I see it is that there's a lot more responsibility involved at CB, that is, the player needs to be able to deal with crosses, set pieces or even high balls and be able to read the game effectively. I think that Perch's main weakness is dealing with crosses, we saw that against Norwich in December - his anticipation in tracking the intended target is rather slow imo. I know our defensive situation isn't so great atm especially with Williamson lacking in confidence and form but, like it or not, Willo is our best option there. Perch's best role is DM, the anchorman. He's shown that he's able to break up the opposition's play effectively and has known to play it simple (a good thing btw) when deployed in such a position. Think he prefers playing there too. As it stands though, for me, Perch's roles for us should be to cover DM and the fullback positions. Playing him at CB should be the absolute last resort imho. 100% true. He is way too small to be a CB, would be killed in the air just like he was earlier in the season. Williamson IS the only option right now. is he not actually taller than Colocinni???? No. Looked it up he's only 4 centimetres smaller than Colo or an inch and a half in old money. Perch is 6 feet tall, Jamie Carragher for example is 5 foot 11 Are you saying Colo is 6'1 1/2"? Having met him, he's about 5'11". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 Perch always looks very slight compared to the other players. As if a puff of wind would blow him over. He only looked like that when he was asked to play the main CB against Grant Holt at Norwich partnered by Simpson IIRC. Tough ask for two full backs really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 20, 2012 Share Posted March 20, 2012 I honestly don't think Perch has the capabilities to be an effective CB. If the opposition is more known to attack along the ground (and through the middle), then fair enough, Perch might be able to do some sort of job at CB but really though, Perch is more prone to mistakes in this position imo. The way I see it is that there's a lot more responsibility involved at CB, that is, the player needs to be able to deal with crosses, set pieces or even high balls and be able to read the game effectively. I think that Perch's main weakness is dealing with crosses, we saw that against Norwich in December - his anticipation in tracking the intended target is rather slow imo. I know our defensive situation isn't so great atm especially with Williamson lacking in confidence and form but, like it or not, Willo is our best option there. Perch's best role is DM, the anchorman. He's shown that he's able to break up the opposition's play effectively and has known to play it simple (a good thing btw) when deployed in such a position. Think he prefers playing there too. As it stands though, for me, Perch's roles for us should be to cover DM and the fullback positions. Playing him at CB should be the absolute last resort imho. 100% true. He is way too small to be a CB, would be killed in the air just like he was earlier in the season. Williamson IS the only option right now. is he not actually taller than Colocinni???? No. Looked it up he's only 4 centimetres smaller than Colo or an inch and a half in old money. Perch is 6 feet tall, Jamie Carragher for example is 5 foot 11 Perch is 5ft 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I honestly don't think Perch has the capabilities to be an effective CB. If the opposition is more known to attack along the ground (and through the middle), then fair enough, Perch might be able to do some sort of job at CB but really though, Perch is more prone to mistakes in this position imo. The way I see it is that there's a lot more responsibility involved at CB, that is, the player needs to be able to deal with crosses, set pieces or even high balls and be able to read the game effectively. I think that Perch's main weakness is dealing with crosses, we saw that against Norwich in December - his anticipation in tracking the intended target is rather slow imo. I know our defensive situation isn't so great atm especially with Williamson lacking in confidence and form but, like it or not, Willo is our best option there. Perch's best role is DM, the anchorman. He's shown that he's able to break up the opposition's play effectively and has known to play it simple (a good thing btw) when deployed in such a position. Think he prefers playing there too. As it stands though, for me, Perch's roles for us should be to cover DM and the fullback positions. Playing him at CB should be the absolute last resort imho. 100% true. He is way too small to be a CB, would be killed in the air just like he was earlier in the season. Williamson IS the only option right now. is he not actually taller than Colocinni???? No. Looked it up he's only 4 centimetres smaller than Colo or an inch and a half in old money. Perch is 6 feet tall, Jamie Carragher for example is 5 foot 11 Perch is 5ft 11. BBC Says he's 1.8M which is 180cm. A 30 cm ruler is 1 foot so therefore 6 x 30cm = 6 feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperShola! Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I fucking love Perchy. Think he's going to be a bit like Colo tbh. When Colo first started here he really wasn't that good but given time he improved and now he's one of the best CB's in the league. With Perchy he's sort of hit and miss but he has really stepped up this season. I think Pards must have bollocked him after the 4-2 at Norwich because ever since then he's been getting better and improving. He really stepped up this Sunday and I just felt safe when he had the ball, a bit like when Colo has it. Plus, some of the tackles he was making really helped us in that game. I think if you give him time he could be in the starting 11 by next season. And no, i'm not drunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I think Perch could do a job at CB with a big commanding defender next to him. Not sure Colo would fit that description. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordstrom Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I honestly don't think Perch has the capabilities to be an effective CB. If the opposition is more known to attack along the ground (and through the middle), then fair enough, Perch might be able to do some sort of job at CB but really though, Perch is more prone to mistakes in this position imo. The way I see it is that there's a lot more responsibility involved at CB, that is, the player needs to be able to deal with crosses, set pieces or even high balls and be able to read the game effectively. I think that Perch's main weakness is dealing with crosses, we saw that against Norwich in December - his anticipation in tracking the intended target is rather slow imo. I know our defensive situation isn't so great atm especially with Williamson lacking in confidence and form but, like it or not, Willo is our best option there. Perch's best role is DM, the anchorman. He's shown that he's able to break up the opposition's play effectively and has known to play it simple (a good thing btw) when deployed in such a position. Think he prefers playing there too. As it stands though, for me, Perch's roles for us should be to cover DM and the fullback positions. Playing him at CB should be the absolute last resort imho. 100% true. He is way too small to be a CB, would be killed in the air just like he was earlier in the season. Williamson IS the only option right now. is he not actually taller than Colocinni???? No. Looked it up he's only 4 centimetres smaller than Colo or an inch and a half in old money. Perch is 6 feet tall, Jamie Carragher for example is 5 foot 11 Perch is 5ft 11. BBC Says he's 1.8M which is 180cm. A 30 cm ruler is 1 foot so therefore 6 x 30cm = 6 feet. 6ft =/= 180cm. 1 foot is equal to approximately 29.2cm. A 0.8cm may not seem like much but then it adds up. 5'11 is correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I honestly don't think Perch has the capabilities to be an effective CB. If the opposition is more known to attack along the ground (and through the middle), then fair enough, Perch might be able to do some sort of job at CB but really though, Perch is more prone to mistakes in this position imo. The way I see it is that there's a lot more responsibility involved at CB, that is, the player needs to be able to deal with crosses, set pieces or even high balls and be able to read the game effectively. I think that Perch's main weakness is dealing with crosses, we saw that against Norwich in December - his anticipation in tracking the intended target is rather slow imo. I know our defensive situation isn't so great atm especially with Williamson lacking in confidence and form but, like it or not, Willo is our best option there. Perch's best role is DM, the anchorman. He's shown that he's able to break up the opposition's play effectively and has known to play it simple (a good thing btw) when deployed in such a position. Think he prefers playing there too. As it stands though, for me, Perch's roles for us should be to cover DM and the fullback positions. Playing him at CB should be the absolute last resort imho. 100% true. He is way too small to be a CB, would be killed in the air just like he was earlier in the season. Williamson IS the only option right now. is he not actually taller than Colocinni???? No. Looked it up he's only 4 centimetres smaller than Colo or an inch and a half in old money. Perch is 6 feet tall, Jamie Carragher for example is 5 foot 11 Perch is 5ft 11. BBC Says he's 1.8M which is 180cm. A 30 cm ruler is 1 foot so therefore 6 x 30cm = 6 feet. 6ft =/= 180cm. 1 foot is equal to approximately 29.2cm. A 0.8cm may not seem like much but then it adds up. 5'11 is correct. Fair enough, but that makes him the same height as Jamie Carragher who's played most of his career at centre half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yeah, but Jamie Carragher probably has significantly more defensive ability to go with that and has played alongside giants like Hyypia throughout his career. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yeah, but Jamie Carragher probably has significantly more defensive ability to go with that and has played alongside giants like Hyypia throughout his career. The arguement was about him being too small to play Centre Back though and he isn't if like you say he has a bigger bloke playing with him. being short didn't stop Paul Parker from being a top class CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Yeah, but Jamie Carragher probably has significantly more defensive ability to go with that and has played alongside giants like Hyypia throughout his career. The arguement was about him being too small to play Centre Back though and he isn't if like you say he has a bigger bloke playing with him. being short didn't stop Paul Parker from being a top class CB. He ended up at right back in the end though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordstrom Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Isn't Carragher 6'1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Christ. Fotoballer height debates get more confusing than fucking wrestler height debates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I honestly don't think Perch has the capabilities to be an effective CB. If the opposition is more known to attack along the ground (and through the middle), then fair enough, Perch might be able to do some sort of job at CB but really though, Perch is more prone to mistakes in this position imo. The way I see it is that there's a lot more responsibility involved at CB, that is, the player needs to be able to deal with crosses, set pieces or even high balls and be able to read the game effectively. I think that Perch's main weakness is dealing with crosses, we saw that against Norwich in December - his anticipation in tracking the intended target is rather slow imo. I know our defensive situation isn't so great atm especially with Williamson lacking in confidence and form but, like it or not, Willo is our best option there. Perch's best role is DM, the anchorman. He's shown that he's able to break up the opposition's play effectively and has known to play it simple (a good thing btw) when deployed in such a position. Think he prefers playing there too. As it stands though, for me, Perch's roles for us should be to cover DM and the fullback positions. Playing him at CB should be the absolute last resort imho. 100% true. He is way too small to be a CB, would be killed in the air just like he was earlier in the season. Williamson IS the only option right now. is he not actually taller than Colocinni???? No. Looked it up he's only 4 centimetres smaller than Colo or an inch and a half in old money. Perch is 6 feet tall, Jamie Carragher for example is 5 foot 11 Perch is 5ft 11. BBC Says he's 1.8M which is 180cm. A 30 cm ruler is 1 foot so therefore 6 x 30cm = 6 feet. 6ft =/= 180cm. 1 foot is equal to approximately 29.2cm. A 0.8cm may not seem like much but then it adds up. 5'11 is correct. If he's 5' 11'' then using 29.2cm per foot it makes him 172.8cm, not 180cm. 180cm is over 6 foot using 29.2cm per foot. edit: Right, sorted. Google reckons there's 30.48cm in a foot which makes everything add up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I'm just busy furiously wanking over the interesting discussion about height that's going on here, don't mind me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 I'm just busy furiously wanking over the interesting discussion about height that's going on here, don't mind me. "furiously" is always the best adjective for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Some real altitude problems in here times Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 22, 2012 Share Posted March 22, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Up until this very minute (as not to curse him) he has been very, very good this season imo. Cuts out loads, looks a completely different player, has confidence for the first time. IF he plays like this when called upon for the rest of the season we have 'like a new signing'. I have been amazingly impressed with him the last few games, it's not just 'he has done okay for James Perch' it's been 'he has done very well for any player' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Perch for England! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 You can tell he's feeling more confident and comfortable, like how he passes it easy most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 He's the bravest cunt ever. Doesn't pull out of anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted March 25, 2012 Share Posted March 25, 2012 Really turned his NUFC career around, keep it up Perchy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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