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Reminds me of how Jenas started out here.  Was great for 1st 18 months and then absolute dog shite till he left.  Seems to be going down the same route (different type of players obviously).

 

To think we valued him at 20M. :yao:

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he's struggling for confidence but think alot has to do with some of his bookings (and the red) he has picked up this season, some of them have been shocking and given on reputation and for his 1st foul in a game when virtually every other player in the league would get a warning first.  As a result he is playing slightly withdrawn in himself when i think he's at his best when playing on the edge and snapping into tackles. 

The way he won the first goal was more like the old Cheik but that pass that led to Stoke's equaliser was poor but then we still should have defended the goal better.

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He's always played on edge but he pushes it too far nowadays. When he first arrived at the club he was a more conservative player and wouldn't try to dribble as much - he always played very simple passes and was getting pass completion stats in the high 90s. Now he attempts too many hollywood passes.

 

He's always been a bit of a bull in a china shop off the ball but i honestly don't mind that - it's his weaknesses on the ball that make him look poor. Needs a strong manager to tell him to play it simple, and to be placed in a team where he has options and is comfortable playing one-touch football.

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He's always played on edge but he pushes it too far nowadays. When he first arrived at the club he was a more conservative player and wouldn't try to dribble as much - he always played very simple passes and was getting pass completion stats in the high 90s. Now he attempts too many hollywood passes.

 

He's always been a bit of a bull in a china shop off the ball but i honestly don't mind that - it's his weaknesses on the ball that make him look poor. Needs a strong manager to tell him to play it simple, and to be placed in a team where he has options and is comfortable playing one-touch football.

 

After we smashed West Ham 5-0, I remember being baffled by Pardew saying something like "we want to see more of Cheik going forward."

 

Not something else we can blame Pards for surely!? :lol:

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He's not playing a style of game that suits him at the moment IMO.

 

Obviously he deserves some criticism for his performances and I'm not trying to absolve him completely but I think he'd look much better if (like so many of our players) he was being used better.

 

He seems to be getting used as an all action, box-to-box midfielder and personally I don't think it's his game at all. For me he should be told to sit in front of the CB's pretty much from the start of the game until the end as a pure defensive midfielder. When the ball comes his way he should look for a quick, simple pass. He's an absolutely fantastic defensive presence in the center of the field, but at times he's a liability when we have the ball. Gets caught in possession far too much, and his passing is very poor.

 

It reminds me of Scott Parker under Roeder. Was a very good defensive midfielder for us, but once we started trying to get more out of him his performances regressed. Same thing happening is happening with Tiote IMO.

 

What's even more frustrating is that having a player like Tiote in the holding role should have allowed Cabaye to play a much more advanced position when we did go 4-4-2. Give Cabaye freedom to get around the park knowing that Tiote is protecting the defense, it'd have made both of them look a lot better.

 

Think he and Anita could be a good pairing in a 4-2-3-1, Tiote doing the defensive work and Anita starting attacks from deep. Real pity Cabaye is out and that the 4-4-2 formation was ever invented.

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He's not playing a style of game that suits him at the moment IMO.

 

Obviously he deserves some criticism for his performances and I'm not trying to absolve him completely but I think he'd look much better if (like so many of our players) he was being used better.

 

He seems to be getting used as an all action, box-to-box midfielder and personally I don't think it's his game at all. For me he should be told to sit in front of the CB's pretty much from the start of the game until the end as a pure defensive midfielder. When the ball comes his way he should look for a quick, simple pass. He's an absolutely fantastic defensive presence in the center of the field, but at times he's a liability when we have the ball. Gets caught in possession far too much, and his passing is very poor.

 

It reminds me of Scott Parker under Roeder. Was a very good defensive midfielder for us, but once we started trying to get more out of him his performances regressed. Same thing happening is happening with Tiote IMO.

 

What's even more frustrating is that having a player like Tiote in the holding role should have allowed Cabaye to play a much more advanced position when we did go 4-4-2. Give Cabaye freedom to get around the park knowing that Tiote is protecting the defense, it'd have made both of them look a lot better.

 

Think he and Anita could be a good pairing in a 4-2-3-1, Tiote doing the defensive work and Anita starting attacks from deep. Real pity Cabaye is out and that the 4-4-2 formation was ever invented.

 

There's literally no reason at all that we can't play Marveaux in the Cabaye role, though.

 

Thats the real problem at the moment. A few players get injured and Pardew panicks and changes the whole system. It should be as seamless as possible with Marveaux slotting into that position and the shape staying the same.

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