Cronky Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It was never a red like, even a yellow was contentious, it's not like he went in with any real force or conviction and lunged at Fletcher in any way. Idiotic for Pardew to come out and agree with the decision though in any case, as there was certainly a big chance of it being turned around with an appeal. Not a chance that is getting turned over. Agreed. And if he tries the defence (that seems quite popular) that he didn't see the other guy then the punishment if likely to be doubled. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 It was never a red like, even a yellow was contentious, it's not like he went in with any real force or conviction and lunged at Fletcher in any way. Idiotic for Pardew to come out and agree with the decision though in any case, as there was certainly a big chance of it being turned around with an appeal. Not a chance that is getting turned over. Agreed. And if he tries the defence (that seems quite popular) that he didn't see the other guy then the punishment if likely to be doubled. Aye, the FA do love a good frivolous extra game ban. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 We look much tougher in the centre with him in it, yes he has been a bit of a liability so far but fuck me people wanting Perch to start instead of him need to have a think. When he is in the team he covers that midfield and is so valuable winning the ball back for us really. Yes Perch has been decent but the midfield does not look anywhere near as solid with him there. Remember when Tiote was out and everyone was crying for him to be back. It will be the same after the next 3 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Tiote shouldn't be guaranteed a starting place, like no one in the team. Perch deserves a good run for his form in CM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 We look much tougher in the centre with him in it, yes he has been a bit of a liability so far but f*** me people wanting Perch to start instead of him need to have a think. When he is in the team he covers that midfield and is so valuable winning the ball back for us really. Yes Perch has been decent but the midfield does not look anywhere near as solid with him there. Remember when Tiote was out and everyone was crying for him to be back. It will be the same after the next 3 games This.I cant believe what I am reading in some of these threads.Perch ahead of Tiote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm more astonished that people think whatever money we'd get from his sale would be put straight back in to the transfer pot to buy replacements tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The whole thing with Tiote and Perch is about form, not ability. Perch's form is much better than Tiote's at the moment, it's undeniable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Fucking hell man, people aren't half overrating Perch if they say he can do as good a job in midfield as Tiote. This feels just like early in the year, people were saying that Guthrie had been better than Cabaye. As for people calling him a liability because he got sent off yesterday, it's not his fucking fault that the ref sees something that's not there. It's not a lunge, he's ever so slightly late because he's being held back. He is fully focused on the ball, there is absolutely no aggression from him at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Tiote shouldn't be guaranteed a starting place, like no one in the team. Perch deserves a good run for his form in CM. Unfortunately, this is bullshit. Perch passing isn't Premiership CM quality. Especially in a 4-4-2 it's a terrible idea. Actually terrible. Good article on Cabaye/Tiote http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/statszone/archive/2012/10/05/tiote-and-cabaye-find-the-perfect-balance-as-newcastle-look-to-repeat-history.aspx We simply do not have the quality to drop either Cabaye or Tiote for anything more than 1 game as a kick up the arse. Perch is never a Premiership quality CM starter. Bigi & Anita have more potential in that role long-term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 The whole thing with Tiote and Perch is about form, not ability. Perch's form is much better than Tiote's at the moment, it's undeniable. It's not really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Tiote shouldn't be guaranteed a starting place, like no one in the team. Perch deserves a good run for his form in CM. Unfortunately, this is bullshit. Perch passing isn't Premiership CM quality. Especially in a 4-4-2 it's a terrible idea. Actually terrible. Good article on Cabaye/Tiote http://fourfourtwo.com/blogs/statszone/archive/2012/10/05/tiote-and-cabaye-find-the-perfect-balance-as-newcastle-look-to-repeat-history.aspx We simply do not have the quality to drop either Cabaye or Tiote for anything more than 1 game as a kick up the arse. Perch is never a Premiership quality CM starter. Bigi & Anita have more potential in that role long-term. Class analysis that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johny1982 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Gotta love this reaction of sell him because of his aggression. Don't try and resolve the situation through better coaching or anything, sell him. Just saw Venkmans, posts on previous page, agree entirely. What do you think the club has been doing for the last 2 years since he's been here then? It's only his second red. Granted he's been on a thin line quite a few times but that's ow it goes in centre mid, he's hardly a scumbag like cattermole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I really think it's time that Pardew worked on toning down the "warrior" image and the hype that surrounds Tiote. It's become counter productive and has most refs just waiting to card him. Take examples like Scott Parker, excellent and effective in that role but with the appearance of a 14 year old schoolboy. Even Cattermole who really is a dirty player, and frankly I've never seen him play a game where he would have stayed on the pitch if it was refereed properly, is quite cute with referees. Tiote needs to wisen up a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Agree with that. I think he believes his own hype a bit as the "hardman". It all started when he got his hair cut Mr T style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Definitely agree with that. Pardew loves to talk Tiote up as this ferocious beast but it doesn't do him any favours, far from it. The last thing you should do with a hard tackling midfielder is build him up as such because it's doing the ref's job for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Definitely agree with that. Pardew loves to talk Tiote up as this ferocious beast but it doesn't do him any favours, far from it. The last thing you should do with a hard tackling midfielder is build him up as such because it's doing the ref's job for them. Completely agree. I miss the days when Cheik was simply our destroyer, it's like he's now the heart and soul of the team's 'fight'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What a terrifying prospect a Fellaini/Tiote midfield partnership would be. Partially for the opposition, more so for your own team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Gotta love this reaction of sell him because of his aggression. Don't try and resolve the situation through better coaching or anything, sell him. Just saw Venkmans, posts on previous page, agree entirely. What do you think the club has been doing for the last 2 years since he's been here then? It's only his second red. Granted he's been on a thin line quite a few times but that's ow it goes in centre mid, he's hardly a scumbag like cattermole And I think it's worth remembering his first red was for what I still regard as an absolutely fantastic tackle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Watching the red card again the main reason he was late into the challenge was the fact he'd been pulled back by that non-entity Colback. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Just caught up with this thread. There's no way I would advocate selling Tiote just because he's "become a liability." Aye, he has become really hot headed recently - he's been very prone to the odd rush of blood to the head but in the end, he still adds that extra bit of bite in midfield which is really important to us. There have been games in the past where we've really missed Tiote - you could just tell that we were missing something. As decent as Perch is in the DM role, there's something about Tiote which makes him the better option for the position. A bit of coaching will go a long way to curb Tiote's tendencies. I don't want his ferocity/aggression to completely go, it is one of his best characteristics but he does need to learn how to keep a cooler head. Unfortunately he's getting a bit of a reputation now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 As others have mentioned bigging up Tiote Chuck Norris style as we do can't help. Despite playing in the same position Perch and Tiote are very different, Perch is a lot more calm and intelligent, Tiote is a an absolutely destroyer. When Tiote keeps his head he can be brilliant as the centre of midfield really turns into a battle and he scares people around him, just needs to keep his head and not to have this hard nut thing played up soo much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 As others have mentioned bigging up Tiote Chuck Norris style as we do can't help. Despite playing in the same position Perch and Tiote are very different, Perch is a lot more calm and intelligent, Tiote is a an absolutely destroyer. When Tiote keeps his head he can be brilliant as the centre of midfield really turns into a battle and he scares people around him, just needs to keep his head and not to have this hard nut thing played up soo much. More importantly, Tiote is so much better on the ball than Perch. Tiote isn't just a destroyer, he's also vital for us when we are in possession, you'll see our back line being far more willing to pass to him compared to Perch and with good reason. This also means that Cabaye won't be forced to come deep to pick the ball up from our back four, as Tiote is there to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 http://www.nufc.co.uk/page/News/Gallery/0,,10278~2957526,00.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Apparently Tioté got 8 kids killed in action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Dekka was all smiles before they announced how much the cheque was for Papiss And Cheick Lend A Hand That's coming off next seasons budget And Papiss looks like he's still watching his last penalty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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