TRon Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Starting to think Pardew has a real something about him tactically as well. It would have been easy, and what a manager like Allardyce or Souness would have done, to just get the player psyched up into battle mode and send them out to get stuck in and go toe-to-toe with Stoke. But he didn't do that, he realised that if we pressed them from the start they wouldn't have the technique to play their way out. Spot on, great example of just tweaking his tactics to the opposition's weaknesses, without changing the basic shape or personnel. For me his best game yet tactically. He said before the game that he wasn't going to get dragged into playing Stoke at their own game, and while I would have liked us to have kept the ball a bit better, I think that was down to one or two players not being quite at that level technically rather than Pardew himself. Defensively we are as well organised as I've ever seen us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugsy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Just can't knock him, doing an excellent job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Starting to think Pardew has a real something about him tactically as well. It would have been easy, and what a manager like Allardyce or Souness would have done, to just get the player psyched up into battle mode and send them out to get stuck in and go toe-to-toe with Stoke. But he didn't do that, he realised that if we pressed them from the start they wouldn't have the technique to play their way out. Spot on, great example of just tweaking his tactics to the opposition's weaknesses, without changing the basic shape or personnel. Managers like Souness and Allardyce fail to realise that "psyching players up into battle mode" and "having a system that plays to your own strengths as opposed to your opponents" aren't mutually exclusive. We basically played like Stoke today when we didn't have the ball (closing down fast, plenty of tackles, high pressure, tight marking), but when we did have the ball we played like Newcastle, and we fucking caned the horrible bastards. The mistake managers often make is that they then think they have to play like Stoke with the ball too, and that's where they often slip up. Pardew thankfully didn't do that tonight, unlike last year's game here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 He is doing such an excellent job atm. Long may it continue. http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/56397000/jpg/_56397635_56397173.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell Boi Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 He is doing such an excellent job atm. Long may it continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Starting to think Pardew has a real something about him tactically as well. It would have been easy, and what a manager like Allardyce or Souness would have done, to just get the player psyched up into battle mode and send them out to get stuck in and go toe-to-toe with Stoke. But he didn't do that, he realised that if we pressed them from the start they wouldn't have the technique to play their way out. Spot on, great example of just tweaking his tactics to the opposition's weaknesses, without changing the basic shape or personnel. Managers like Souness and Allardyce fail to realise that "psyching players up into battle mode" and "having a system that plays to your own strengths as opposed to your opponents" aren't mutually exclusive. We basically played like Stoke today when we didn't have the ball (closing down fast, plenty of tackles, high pressure, tight marking), but when we did have the ball we played like Newcastle, and we fucking caned the horrible bastards. The mistake managers often make is that they then think they have to play like Stoke with the ball too, and that's where they often slip up. Pardew thankfully didn't do that tonight, unlike last year's game here. Good point, I do think dogged closing down and disciplined defending is a bit different to just going out to have a physical battle, but I agree basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Loved the towels. Top trolling. And top tactics tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ykmkmdd Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Absolute tactical masterclass tonight: -Hitting Obertan early over the top at every opportunity - led to the 1st goal -Leaving players upfield (Obertan and Cabaye) on their set pieces limited the amount of players they could load into our box -The genuinely comical time-wasting on throws and free kicks - how does your own medicine taste Stoke?? -Jonas doubling up quick and early on Pennant - if their full backs are shite may as well expose it Fucking brilliant - looks like he researches the oppo to an amazing degree and acts accordingly - well done Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 All the 'they haven't had tough games' crowd need to have a look at how we play right now, we take our opportunities when we get them and we're tight bastards at the back. Most of all we're not boring to watch, without being foolishly open. Last season was spent a little looking over our backs as we knew we were riding some luck at times, and losing games we really should win, and we would win. Still think the handling of kicking Houghton out was tremendously harsh, but Pardew is doing well. Almost worringly, Ashley will sack him soon at this rate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 http://i40.tinypic.com/2r27yax.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 http://i40.tinypic.com/2r27yax.gif Who else but Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I'd love Pards to have a long, long career with us, always like him even before he came here. Think in the right circumstances he could build an amazing career here. If he could only stay away from players' WAGs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Although I rate Pardew, his backroom staff, our key players and our squad players very highly, I didn't think we'd get anything out of the game because I did not think we had developed to a point where we could cope with a 90 minute battering from such a direct physical team in a hostile stadium. I thought about how the great Keegan team would have gone into such a game and still won but I didn't think this team had it in them yet. I was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 http://i40.tinypic.com/2r27yax.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksammy Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 great result , going great, what people dont realise is that when we do start losing we have a bench with actual strike power coming from it now like pearchyboi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Love the way he is learning from his mistakes. In the build up to the game he said he got it wrong away at stoke last year and that it was his fault. Well he went and put that right tonight. Brilliant! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 F*n brilliant today, from the selection and the tactics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 He certainly addressed the poor way we usually start games as well tonight. Whether that was because Stoke are technically unable to control a game under pressure I don't know, but still nice to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Liverpool the only team to beat us in 90 minutes in all competitions in 19 matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TherealnorthernTOON Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Tactics was spot on. Very good on Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 He was a little less majestic tonight, but still, great subs/tactics/etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Absolute tactical masterclass tonight: -Hitting Obertan early over the top at every opportunity - led to the 1st goal -Leaving players upfield (Obertan and Cabaye) on their set pieces limited the amount of players they could load into our box -The genuinely comical time-wasting on throws and free kicks - how does your own medicine taste Stoke?? -Jonas doubling up quick and early on Pennant - if their full backs are shite may as well expose it Fucking brilliant - looks like he researches the oppo to an amazing degree and acts accordingly - well done Pards. I get the impression he desperately wants to do well at Newcastle and is working his arse off to make this happen. So far so good, he is becoming extremely likeable and who would have seen that a year or so ago when he was appointed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 We are actually.... walking in a Pardew wonderland.... We certainly are Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I was really peeved when I saw Obertan and Raylor on the squad...egg on my face somewhat. (still maybe think Santon may have done a better job, but I suppose would have been a very harsh first proper test), and Obertan justified inclusion entirely. Team spirit must be sky high right now. lets hope that this continues. How many more 'true tests' according to the media are we going ot have to endure? (I suspect we'll still be getting that in april) It's also worth noting I had this down as our first loss. Always great to be proved wrong as such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Nailed on to be next England manager then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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