Dokko Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I'd rather avoid Europe this year if we don't go out and severely strengthen the squad (which we won't) If we divide our time and start messing up in the league the pressure is on, and it will be another manager out the door and more unrest amongst fans and players. I don't trust the club to use the chance of Europe properly, we would have to take full advantage in terms of bringing in European quality players and get rid of the championship trash, but Ashley just will not commit to such a big job...even if he did he'd probably get cold feet about Pardew spending the money required and sack him for a continental manager he hasn't got a clue about. The only way i'd want Europe this season is if it meant taking it off the mackems on the last day of the season, that would be so fuking funny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 TBH getting europe would almost certainly cause Tiote and Enrique to stay as well as attracting decent players, so I'd take it and hope that we get knocked out in the group stages so that we don't get fatigued. Seriously man. I can't believe what I'm reading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 TBH getting europe would almost certainly cause Tiote and Enrique to stay as well as attracting decent players, so I'd take it and hope that we get knocked out in the group stages so that we don't get fatigued. Seriously man. I can't believe what I'm reading. Aye if we're in, we're in, and getting knocked out of a tournament can't be the greatest tactic for the old confidencemeter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EastEndGeordie Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 TBH getting europe would almost certainly cause Tiote and Enrique to stay as well as attracting decent players, so I'd take it and hope that we get knocked out in the group stages so that we don't get fatigued. Seriously man. I can't believe what I'm reading. I say that for good reason 1)We still have only come up this season. 2) Teams literally become decimated after a good run (look at Fulham). Obviously I wouldn't be praying that we get knocked out . But if we were to invest heavily then we could handle but with this squad would you honestly say they could handle it, ecspecially considering our lack of depth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Imho, one of the important things about playing in Europe is getting your name out there again. It says your club is going places, and it will help attract better players. The UEFA Cup was a great springboard for Villarreal and Sevilla. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I don't have many 'dreams', but I've always wanted to follow us away in Europe. Always too young last time round. Our fixtures are decent, however I don't think it will happen. Everton or Bolton for me will get 7th Exactly same here, finishing uni this year and have no plans for next year, already dreaming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I'd rather avoid Europe this year if we don't go out and severely strengthen the squad (which we won't) If we divide our time and start messing up in the league the pressure is on, and it will be another manager out the door and more unrest amongst fans and players. I don't trust the club to use the chance of Europe properly, we would have to take full advantage in terms of bringing in European quality players and get rid of the championship trash, but Ashley just will not commit to such a big job...even if he did he'd probably get cold feet about Pardew spending the money required and sack him for a continental manager he hasn't got a clue about. The only way i'd want Europe this season is if it meant taking it off the mackems on the last day of the season, that would be so fuking funny. I pretty much agree with this. If we qualify, great, but I just have no particular desire to play in the Europa League right now and I don't think it'll do any favours for our league position which is what really matters to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Honestly don't understand how anyone can turn their nose up at Europe, in any set of circumstances. European football is what we should be aiming for, the sooner the better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 If we were daft enough to qualify for Europe from any position this season, I’d say it was better than our first year back last time. This league is much tougher than it was back then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 This thread is incredible. Honestly, who would have thought we would even be discussing this in February? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Hope not ... unless we spend £25m in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Imho, one of the important things about playing in Europe is getting your name out there again. It says your club is going places, and it will help attract better players. The UEFA Cup was a great springboard for Villarreal and Sevilla. As always, you are spot on. Players will look at us and think that we've gone from the championship to qualifying for Europe in one season, they will see us a team on the up, especially if we invest the £35m. I still don't think we'll get there mind, but once again, it's where we should be looking at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Details on the finances are here btw: http://uk.uefa.com/uefa/management/finance/news/newsid=1517280.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 TBH getting europe would almost certainly cause Tiote and Enrique to stay as well as attracting decent players, so I'd take it and hope that we get knocked out in the group stages so that we don't get fatigued. Seriously man. I can't believe what I'm reading. I say that for good reason 1)We still have only come up this season. 2) Teams literally become decimated after a good run (look at Fulham). Obviously I wouldn't be praying that we get knocked out . But if we were to invest heavily then we could handle but with this squad would you honestly say they could handle it, ecspecially considering our lack of depth? As I say, if you do actually manage to qualify, of course it's a question of whether the funds are there to invest (Pardew has said there are, time will tell). However to say you've qualified for European competition is, IMO, a hugely influential card to play when chasing a player. If, and yes it's a big if, the funds are there then I expect your squad to be capable of managing the extra games. Also, I'm not really sure what you're getting at with your first reason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 I'm not going to say lets make it our aim, we stand a chance of getting into Europe and if get it then great, but if we do get then the club really must bring in not only first team players but also good squad players as well. It shouldn't be our aim. our aim should be finish as well as we can, and if that means getting a European place then great, but lets not disappoint ourselves if we don't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EastEndGeordie Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 TBH getting europe would almost certainly cause Tiote and Enrique to stay as well as attracting decent players, so I'd take it and hope that we get knocked out in the group stages so that we don't get fatigued. Seriously man. I can't believe what I'm reading. I say that for good reason 1)We still have only come up this season. 2) Teams literally become decimated after a good run (look at Fulham). Obviously I wouldn't be praying that we get knocked out . But if we were to invest heavily then we could handle but with this squad would you honestly say they could handle it, ecspecially considering our lack of depth? As I say, if you do actually manage to qualify, of course it's a question of whether the funds are there to invest (Pardew has said there are, time will tell). However to say you've qualified for European competition is, IMO, a hugely influential card to play when chasing a player. If, and yes it's a big if, the funds are there then I expect your squad to be capable of managing the extra games. Also, I'm not really sure what you're getting at with your first reason? Neither do I I think I was going to say something pessimistic but ah screw it, NUFC fans can dream can't they? Bring on the Europa League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 would be nice but unlikely though i have an irrational hatred of the europa league due to me managing to end up in it every fucking season on fm10 online game i played while trying to get cl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 First win in seven and we're only 2 points off a potential European spot. Imagine how much better it could have been as well! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Think of Stan Collymore analysing your games! THINK OF IT! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Onyewu touchline reporter as we play a mid-table Belgian side. Can't wait! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 First win in seven and we're only 2 points off a potential European spot. Imagine how much better it could have been as well! If we had Ben Arfa fully fit then I should imagine we would be 15 points ahead of Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 First win in seven and we're only 2 points off a potential European spot. Imagine how much better it could have been as well! If we had Ben Arfa fully fit then I should imagine we would be 15 points ahead of Man Utd. That poor home spell and the two injury-time equalisers against us (although I guess Wigan & Arsenal at home almost cancel those out) and we could easily be sitting in 6th now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Tongue-in-cheek title update inspired by cp40 in the other thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 7th would be a great season for us. looking like a realistic ambition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 15, 2011 Share Posted February 15, 2011 Ifs and buts like. Every team has them. Performing well above the expected though, lets hope we don't suffer from second season syndrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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