astraguy Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Had a job to buy players with potential to sell on allegedly didn't do a bad job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 He did a great job in finding some good bargains, hell we paid 2 million or so for Sissoko and sold him for 30. 4 or 5 for Cabaye and sold him for 20 million. Hell even some of the ones that failed like Thauvin, Cabella, Mwbia etc, were more a case of being poorly managed than anything else. The one aspect I didn't like about him was the part he played in bringing McClaren to the club, it was clearly his recommendation, his friend and it cost us our PL status. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 McClaren was the ultimate lame duck, and yet Carr and Charnley were the only two people not to spot that fact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I think we definitely benefitted from him in the beginning, he brought in some hungry, talented players that buzzed in that first full season together. Bringing in Cisse at just the right time to re-ignite the spark. That season would have been very different with Pardew's signings. And then having given him an 8yr contract, Ashley basically sent him on gardening leave. And entrusted squad development to a man who couldn't develop a polaroid. With a good manager at that time we could have still progressed, Carr was clearly still working hard in the background, given the signings that belatedly arrived. And they arrived in a similar fashion. Janmaat, Gouffran, and Sissoko were all hungry and talented, but the simmering pot of expectation that once was had become a festering pan of mouldy broth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can't believe no one has mentioned Hatem Ben Arfa in all of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stal Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I think under a different regime he may have been praised a bit more. I take on board all the good signings he scouted, but they're from a time where my love of football had almost evaporated because of pardew, ashley etc. The piping off of mclaren to make sure we got that cretin instead of a real manager was the icing on the depression tasting cake for me. It's another worry about Rafa staying removed as far as I'm concerned. Bottom line is that I'm glad he's gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The fact he's gone is good news purely as it signals a change of regime - rather than a celebration of the personnel leaving. Rafael Benitez FC in full flow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 The fact he's gone is good news purely as it signals a change of regime - rather than a celebration of the personnel leaving. Rafael Benitez FC in full flow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Unless he has walked before Rafa has after the lawyer cunt had kaboshed every deal they had been working on so far. It's all falling apart i tells ya. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Unless he has walked before Rafa has after the lawyer c*** had kaboshed every deal they had been working on so far. It's all falling apart i tells ya. Rafa would've walked if any deal he was working on looked like being 'kaboshed'. He's been aware of the lawyer appointment for months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I was only joking to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elric Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Get in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Great news, Rafa really is becoming the glorious and powerful dictator we all longed for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Almost like some sort of... Rafalution. I hope the club uses that term. It's smart, catchy and 100% class. I can't see it in anyway being considered cringeworthy at all. Here's to our RAFALUTION! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can't believe no one has mentioned Hatem Ben Arfa in all of this. You must have missed the two attention-whore trolls on page 70 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Altamullan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Almost like some sort of... Rafalution. I hope the club uses that term. It's smart, catchy and 100% class. I can't see it in anyway being considered cringeworthy at all. Here's to our RAFALUTION! "Rafalution: No pasarán!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Rafa is seizing the means of production. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I wonder if Rafa wasn't happy with Carr behind the scenes and flexed his muscles a bit, would like to think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I wonder if Rafa wasn't happy with Carr behind the scenes and flexed his muscles a bit, would like to think so. Interesting. How much negotiating would Carr have done with players? He may have had a part in missing out on some of our supposed targets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I wonder if Rafa wasn't happy with Carr behind the scenes and flexed his muscles a bit, would like to think so. I'd imagine that Carr has walked of his own volition because Rafa was cutting him out of his transfer plans and was using his own scouting methods. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 It's a strange time to make this change in the middle of a transfer window when your scouts are working hard to find you the players you need. Perhaps all the hard work has already been done and the targets identified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can't believe no one has mentioned Hatem Ben Arfa in all of this. You must have missed the two attention-whore trolls on page 70 If you don't think HBA is our most "gifted" player ever you're an attention-whore troll? Alrighty then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can't believe no one has mentioned Hatem Ben Arfa in all of this. You must have missed the two attention-whore trolls on page 70 If you don't think HBA is our most "gifted" player ever you're an attention-whore troll? Alrighty then. Ever? Have a word Exactly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkhead Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 In terms of flair, agility and technique, Ben Arfa is above any other player I've seen, apart from Maradona and maybe Messi. He's not some talented footballer, he's a genius. Fuck the haters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can't believe no one has mentioned Hatem Ben Arfa in all of this. You must have missed the two attention-whore trolls on page 70 If you don't think HBA is our most "gifted" player ever you're an attention-whore troll? Alrighty then. Let's look at what you said, trolly mctroll: About time, although I will always be grateful for Yohann Cabaye & arguably the most naturally gifted footballer Newcastle United ever had Hatem Ben Arfa (come home Hatem). absolute f***ing nonsense Ben arfa was not that at all. didn't have anywhere near the talent of Tino,Ginola,Solano,Peter Beardsley, gazza or even Laurent Robert give your head a shake Judging purely on talent then HBA's one of the most gifted we've had. I'm with geordiedean on this one. "Talent" isn't just about technique. I don't get the Ben Arfa obsession. I loved seeing him play, as I've loved many players at this club. Good players come and go. So you're agreeing with the notion that HBA is "not all that" and "doesn't have anywhere near the talent of Tino,Ginola,Solano,Peter Beardsley, gazza or even Laurent Robert" Yep, you're a troll. Or a retard. Look at me, swimming against popular opinion! Look at me offering contrary contentions that are unfounded in the real world! Look at me shunning the near universal love this forum has for a fabulously talented footballer who could do things the likes of Solano, Asprilla, Robert and Ginola could only dream of, or Beardsley and Gascoigne might have done on a good day thirty years ago... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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