Deuce Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Gio dos Santos has been linked with LA Galaxy. Maybe he'd find some kind of club form for them (though he had a pretty good season for Mallorca). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Man for man. Or talent wise. That AC Milan side over a 5 year period had the most ALL-STAR looking team. Not literally in the same team but still. Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Costacurta, Cafu, Gattusso, Rui Costa, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Seedorf, Kaka, Crespo. I mean... wow. Before that they had a team with Savicevic, Boban, Weah, Baresi, Desailly, Dugarry, Davids, Baggio, Albertini,. Was outrageous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ancelotti is a brilliant manager and his AC Milan and Chelsea sides were always entertaining, certainly very attack minded. He's Italian but as a manager he's so un Italian. That's probably why he won so few league titles with AC Milan because he was too attack minded and picked some crazy sides. 3 playmakers... When we played Chelsea at SJP a few months back we were in the executive box with some Chelsea fans and both of them rated Ancelotti higher than Mourinho when it came to the football they played under him and both were gutted when he was sacked as they thought he could of built a lasting dynasty. They fucking hated Rafa mind and though Di Matteo was never good enough. Canny lads they were but when it came to Newcastle, they were so ill-informed it was unreal. They believed every stereotype/media crap going. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisdom Body Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Nesta's easily the best defender I've seen fwiw. Totally agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Cannavaro for me like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Goma for me like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Man for man. Or talent wise. That AC Milan side over a 5 year period had the most ALL-STAR looking team. Not literally in the same team but still. Stam, Nesta, Maldini, Costacurta, Cafu, Gattusso, Rui Costa, Inzaghi, Shevchenko, Seedorf, Kaka, Crespo. I mean... wow. Before that they had a team with Savicevic, Boban, Weah, Baresi, Desailly, Dugarry, Davids, Baggio, Albertini,. Was outrageous. Dugarry was shit for them mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ancelotti's book is another one that needs to be read btw. For a bloke who's won the European Cup 4 times there's not a hint of ego about him. Takes the piss out of himself on virtually every page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Nesta's easily the best defender I've seen fwiw. Same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ritchie Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Fernandinho is 28. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 City don't have to operate in the real world and worry about resale value. If he helps to win them a few league titles and they progress further in Europe, it's a successful transfer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 The Milan side from 90-94 was something else. I used to love Serie A as a kid. So many great players and different types of players too. The emergence of the PL had a huge and negative effect on Serie A. It hasn't been the same since. As a league its considered a poor league compared to the PL and La Liga and now even Germany. Its clubs are considered lesser clubs these days too. Such a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Channel 4 showing Serie A was great back in the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 £30m. 5 caps for Brasil at the age of 28. Bearing in mind they rotate their squad so much, Flip probably has at least 3 caps. Not seen the kid much, could be many reasons, just seems mentalist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 £30m. 5 caps for Brasil at the age of 28. Bearing in mind they rotate their squad so much, Flip probably has at least 3 caps. Not seen the kid much, could be many reasons, just seems mentalist. He was hugely impressive in the CL and based on that alone i don't know why he's not in Brazil's squad. But can't say i have seen him much outside of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PineBarrens Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 No better defender before or since Franco Baresi, an integral part of the greatest club side of all-time, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 he's looked fantastic everytime i've seen him, which isn't that much mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Nesta's easily the best defender I've seen fwiw. He was excellent yet not in Baresi's class. As Deuce said, Italy have produced some outstanding defenders. I go back as far as Facchetti ,Scirea and the monster who had the most ironic name ever, Claudio Gentile. All class but Baresi for me is the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 £30m. 5 caps for Brasil at the age of 28. Bearing in mind they rotate their squad so much, Flip probably has at least 3 caps. Not seen the kid much, could be many reasons, just seems mentalist. He was hugely impressive in the CL and based on that alone i don't know why he's not in Brazil's squad. But can't say i have seen him much outside of that. Is that the general consensus with the Brazilians that play in Russia? Has Willian ever got any caps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Nesta's easily the best defender I've seen fwiw. He was excellent yet not in Baresi's class. As Deuce said, Italy have produced some outstanding defenders. I go back as far as Facchetti ,Scirea and the monster who had the most ironic name ever, Claudio Gentile. All class but Baresi for me is the best. Can you we really call Baresi a true great when Peter Ramage modeled his game on him and that was the end result? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 £30m. 5 caps for Brasil at the age of 28. Bearing in mind they rotate their squad so much, Flip probably has at least 3 caps. Not seen the kid much, could be many reasons, just seems mentalist. If I had three I wouldn't be on here disagreeing 100% of the time Dropout posts, 75% HTT posts, 50% Ronaldo posts, 25% Mike posts, I would be bathing in my millions as it's a known fact: 1 cap for the national team means you'll command an enormous fee. £30m for a guy who is 28 is ridiculous, no matter how Brazilian he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 £30m. 5 caps for Brasil at the age of 28. Bearing in mind they rotate their squad so much, Flip probably has at least 3 caps. Not seen the kid much, could be many reasons, just seems mentalist. He was hugely impressive in the CL and based on that alone i don't know why he's not in Brazil's squad. But can't say i have seen him much outside of that. He looked a world better the 2 or so times I saw him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ancelotti is a brilliant manager and his AC Milan and Chelsea sides were always entertaining, certainly very attack minded. He's Italian but as a manager he's so un Italian. That's probably why he won so few league titles with AC Milan because he was too attack minded and picked some crazy sides. 3 playmakers... So on point. If anyone disagrees 100% with my posts they know nothing about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Nesta's easily the best defender I've seen fwiw. He was excellent yet not in Baresi's class. As Deuce said, Italy have produced some outstanding defenders. I go back as far as Facchetti ,Scirea and the monster who had the most ironic name ever, Claudio Gentile. All class but Baresi for me is the best. Scirea man, he would get my vote. Although I admit I was a kid back then so my memories might not be the best. Such grace, though, the ball somehow always ended magically at his feet. And he had Gentile to do the dirty work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted June 6, 2013 Share Posted June 6, 2013 Ancelotti is a brilliant manager and his AC Milan and Chelsea sides were always entertaining, certainly very attack minded. He's Italian but as a manager he's so un Italian. That's probably why he won so few league titles with AC Milan because he was too attack minded and picked some crazy sides. 3 playmakers... So on point. If anyone disagrees 100% with my posts they know nothing about football. HTT rarely watches anything other than Newcastle so you shouldn't take his opinion especially. Also what you seem incapable of grasping is that players don't decide whether a team is playing an attacking football. I know Ancelotti is a huge fan of calling himself an attacking manager and he did succeed on many points at Chelsea doing that. But during most of his career, his team have never been known for an attractive football, it's more an efficient style of football in many ways. You look at what he did with Juventus and then at Milan, his team scored very few goals for being a title contender. I remember his Milan side much better than I remember his Chelsea side as I didn't catch much Chelsea on the TV when he managed them. I do catch his PSG side and for being such a superior side in their league their brand of football is terribly boring. He liked to put offensive players on the pitch at PSG too, but as I stated above, it doesn't prove anything. Finally, I'm not much for statistics as I don't watch the sport like that, but for being a very attacking minded and very entertaining side as you and HTT seem to like to call his team, why did his Milan side, which had ''four #10'' and two of the best goalscorers of the past decade only score an average of 1,6goals per game. Just to give you something to compare with, Mourinhos Inter scored more, Allegris unspectacular Milan sides have scored more per game, and worst of all his Milan team only once in 8 years was the top scoring team in the Serie A. In the end I think we might have different views on attacking and entertaining managers. I prefer the style implementet by Tele Santana, Zeman and Bielsa or effective attack minded football teams like Guardiola and Vilanovas Barcelona, Scolaris national side in 2002, Löws Germany in WC 2010, Wengers Arsenal, Keegans teams, Del Bosque among others. Managers like Ancelotti, Mourinho, Deschamps, Parreira, Mancini don't fall into the category of attacking and entertaining footballing managers in my opinion. Although I do find Mourinho extremely entertaining off it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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