Ronaldo Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 He's banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4709879/Demba-Ba-snubs-80000-a-week-offer-to-join-up-with-QPR.html DEMBA BA has snubbed an £80,000-a-week offer from QPR. The Toon striker turned down the Premier League strugglers — knowing Arsenal, Liverpool and Spurs are queuing up to grab him in the January transfer window. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Well at least he's not completely daft (if that's true) We're going to lose him though Thing is considering our form, in a way can't blame him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 How can he snub a move when there has been no offer accepted. Journalism is so easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Seeing as many people are making wild hypotheses based on fragments of information, I thought I might get on board: Pardew wants shot of Ba. * Not because he is a bad player, because he clearly is a good player who is banging in all of our goals. * Not because he wants to make money for Ashley, because 3.75m is copper coins these days, and a replacement will cost 2-3 times that. * Not because he thinks his knees will give out, because I have no doubt that there is either insurance or a get-out clause in case of a career-ending injury. * I believe Pardew wants rid of Ba because he likes Cisse (as a player) better, and has come to realise what many of us can see: that Ba and Cisse don't work. * I believe Pardew wants rid of Ba because Ba's incentivised contract is proving detrimental to the team: at the start of 2011-12 he was banging them in and all was well. When Cisse came, Ba stopped scoring, got the strop, extracted a promise from Pardew to play in the middle in the summer and the team has suffered since. * I believe Pardew wants rid of Ba because he has done a simple cost-benefit equation and decided Ba out the door is better than Ba in the squad - he can buy a striker who better fits the balance of the team and he removes the media circus (and I agree Pardew is actively fueling this, but not him alone) * I believe Ashley/Llambias want rid of Ba because that incentivised contract with assorted clauses is an anathema to their concept of how contracts and transfers should work Maybe... i think you're spot on personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 If Pardew wants rid of Ba why doesn't he just not play him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 If Pardew wants rid of Ba why doesn't he just not play him? Shop Window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 How can he snub a move when there has been no offer accepted. Journalism is so easy. They probably went straight to the agents. NUFC is essentially only the middleman with no say in any of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 If Pardew wants rid of Ba why doesn't he just not play him? Shop Window To apparently detriment our whole season? For £3.75m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 If Pardew wants rid of Ba why doesn't he just not play him? Shop Window To apparently detriment our whole season? For £3.75m? See what you've just done? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 If Pardew wants rid of Ba why doesn't he just not play him? Reiterating that this is a wild hypothesis based on fragments of fact: Pardew plays him despite wanting rid because as much as it impacts on the team and its performance as a whole, playing Obertan or Ameobi would have a greater negative impact. If we were playing as badly as we are right now with Ba sitting on the bench and Ameobi stumbling around, the fans would hang Pardew from the Gallowgate goal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Sam Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Agree with Raconteur. I would personally just get shot of him really. There is no denying what a great player he is but as long as we have Ba, Cisse will always have to play on the right. I don't understand the point of playing an out and out striker on the wing really. It has been proven that Ba and Cisse don't work together. They are too similar players. I think selling Ba will free the club of all of this contract debacle and I also believe it will free Cisse and allow him to play his game. I prefer Cisse as a person and a player to be honest. He has proven he can score and he is a lot less selfish than Ba. I think Ba is the sort of player that will kick up a fuss when things go wrong - which he/his agents have done. So whilst I will be disappointed to lose such a great player, as long as we get a good replacement, I don't think it will be the end of the world as hopefully it will allow Cisse to step up again. We will also be without Ba's agent which would be great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bluegeordie Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Seeing as many people are making wild hypotheses based on fragments of information, I thought I might get on board: Pardew wants shot of Ba. * Not because he is a bad player, because he clearly is a good player who is banging in all of our goals. * Not because he wants to make money for Ashley, because 3.75m is copper coins these days, and a replacement will cost 2-3 times that. * Not because he thinks his knees will give out, because I have no doubt that there is either insurance or a get-out clause in case of a career-ending injury. * I believe Pardew wants rid of Ba because he likes Cisse (as a player) better, and has come to realise what many of us can see: that Ba and Cisse don't work. * I believe Pardew wants rid of Ba because Ba's incentivised contract is proving detrimental to the team: at the start of 2011-12 he was banging them in and all was well. When Cisse came, Ba stopped scoring, got the strop, extracted a promise from Pardew to play in the middle in the summer and the team has suffered since. * I believe Pardew wants rid of Ba because he has done a simple cost-benefit equation and decided Ba out the door is better than Ba in the squad - he can buy a striker who better fits the balance of the team and he removes the media circus (and I agree Pardew is actively fueling this, but not him alone) * I believe Ashley/Llambias want rid of Ba because that incentivised contract with assorted clauses is an anathema to their concept of how contracts and transfers should work Maybe... A really interesting post imo, which I hope is right, for two main reasons. Firstly, because I actually agree with the reasoning (and NUFC_Sam's too), even if, on the face of it, it seems counterintuitive to be willing to see your top goalscorer leave the club for a pittance. And secondly, because even if it is a crazy idea, at least it would stop me thinking of this scene every time I ponder Pardew's vision for the team: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Hope he never takes another free kick for us again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Don't know if it's true or not but somebody said Pardew was telling Ba to keep taking them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Don't know if it's true or not but somebody said Pardew was telling Ba to keep taking them. Well that would sum up Pardew with set penises then wouldn't it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Don't know if it's true or not but somebody said Pardew was telling Ba to keep taking them. Aye, there was one in the first half where Anita walked up to Ba, they had a chat, Ba walked away, Pardew shouted something over and Ba went back and took the freekick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
durhamunigeordie Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Beat me to it. That's what I saw as well - definitely took that 2nd one under instruction from Pardew. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Who else could have taken some? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Who else could have taken some? Anita, Jonas, Captain Colo, Tiote, Santon. Anyone really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Jonas no, Tiote no. The rest Tbf Ba has hit a cracking free kick before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Who else could have taken some? Anita, Jonas, Captain Colo, Tiote, Santon. Anyone really. Mohammed wept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Jonas no, Tiote no. The rest Tbf Ba has hit a cracking free kick before. one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I did say 'a' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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