Cheshire Mag Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Can this lad just start playing to the whistle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He's weak as water, like. Not a player for this league, but he'll have his moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He's weak as water, like. Not a player for this league, but he'll have his moments. I hated the two occasions he stop playing because he thought they were fouls, maybe they were, maybe they weren't but dont just stop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He's weak as water, like. Not a player for this league, but he'll have his moments. He's not any weaker than Luka Modric or Oscar. Obviously these players are superior, but Marveaux would fit in well if the team gave him adequate protection and played in a manner that was conducive to his success. If we are going to smash the ball 80 feet in the air and ask him to try and win it off the DM, he not too useful. The boy's touches on the ball are always thoughtful and creative, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 HE needs the ball more,everytime he got it he looked dangerous, but he doesnt really come looking for the ball, when hes involved he looks good but we need to play to him more, look for him alot more, we where always looking for JOnas and Obertan today so he didnt get theball enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He's weak as water, like. Not a player for this league, but he'll have his moments. I haven't disagreed with you much lately, but I think it's too early to say on that. I'd definitely say that he looks to me like a player that could succeed in this league, but not in this current team's attacking philosophy (ugh, I know, soz). Put him in the Swansea, Liverpool, Spurs, Arsenal, West Brom etc team, and he'd look very good imo. The bottom line for me is that the larger problem is tactics above personnel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think he's great but you can see he's a number 10 as he's very passive. He floats in and out of games and doesn't impose himself enough, and when he's on the ball he is very economical but rarely drives the team forward. Norwich saw he was our dangerman and did a good job on him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I think he'd have more of an impact if we actually had some kind of attacking plan, too many of our players receive the ball and then everyone just stands and watches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why does it have to be a plan though? Surely they should be good enough to use their initiative in our attacking play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'll stick my neck out, upset few of his fan-boys on here and admit that he's probably not THAT good and is probably a bit overrated on here. He's still a good player to have in the squad, but I don't think we could rely on him producing the goods week in/week out. Good squad/rotation player but I don't think he's got the ability to be a blue chip or match winner type of player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He certainly will have more of an impact when there's more movement going on around him, he needs space to operate as he seemingly doesn't go looking for the ball much. He will never be the type to really grab a game when the going gets tough though. Today you could really see we needed Ben Arfa type, who has so much confidence he will have a go at a team no matter the situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He looks better when he's running at players in the final 1/3, I'd be encouraging him to do this more, sometimes he seems to take the option to pass instead of using a change of pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He certainly will have more of an impact when there's more movement going on around him, he needs space to operate as he seemingly doesn't go looking for the ball much. He will never be the type to really grab a game when the going gets tough though. Today you could really see we needed Ben Arfa type, who has so much confidence he will have a go at a team no matter the situation. Fair enough. Sometimes it's easy to forget that currently we've got no attacking plan or shape to us whatsoever. (Therefore it would be unfair to judge.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Why does it have to be a plan though? Surely they should be good enough to use their initiative in our attacking play. Because if we have no plan, we get the shambles of attacking play we got today. We don't attack as a team, no-one creates any movement for anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 He certainly will have more of an impact when there's more movement going on around him, he needs space to operate as he seemingly doesn't go looking for the ball much. He will never be the type to really grab a game when the going gets tough though. Today you could really see we needed Ben Arfa type, who has so much confidence he will have a go at a team no matter the situation. Fair enough. Sometimes it's easy to forget that currently we've got no attacking plan or shape to us whatsoever. (Therefore it would be unfair to judge.) It's not completely unfair to judge as we've seen his character. I agree with you that he's not a match winner in our current set up, he just doesn't have the level of aggression in a side that's so static and low on confidence. He is however, a very talented attacking midfielder (he's a definite starter when everone's fit IMO) who will thrive with some form of attacking plan, and some better players around him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Should never have been taken off today. Changed the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Thought he looked class today too, cracking break through the middle and turn of pace in the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Class player, I thought he looked really good today and along with Cabaye was our best player. Has great movement and creativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Should never come off at home to shite teams unless it's massively obvious we've killed the other team off. They were scared of him, you could see they were happier to push up when he went off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Bloke behind me criticises absolutely everything he does and I mean everything - even when he does something really good, the bloke says he hasn't done it in the right way. His comments have caused some friction with others around him at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Bloke behind me criticises absolutely everything he does and I mean everything - even when he does something really good, the bloke says he hasn't done it in the right way. His comments have caused some friction with others around him at times. Do you sit in front of Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 Bloke behind me criticises absolutely everything he does and I mean everything - even when he does something really good, the bloke says he hasn't done it in the right way. His comments have caused some friction with others around him at times. Do you sit in front of Pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 There was this mint control he did near the centre circle, killed the long ball and turned away from the player He played well and it is a disgrace that he was taken off BUT he sums Pardew up Get Ben Arfa to the right of him and someone competent down the left (new signing) and we will look a different side going forward. OR we could just stick with the shite Jonas and Shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 When ben arfa is fit we won't see him and marv in the same team under pardew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 When ben arfa is fit we won't see him and marv in the same team under pardew Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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