ATB Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Not the ideal starter. Feels like a Joker in that sense that he has the potential to win a game, but sometimes he just go missing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 There is no doubt he has ability but not sure he is ready for 1st team EPL football, games just pass him by way to much. Looks lost & out of his depth I am not writing him off or anything but he is going to need a lot of time to find his feet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I really like him but that was such a disappointed apperance yesterday, never really got involved in anything and the whole game passed him by. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Harsh to judge him based on yesterday. We barely had a touch after he came on. We had completely lost our way post gouffran injury. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Yesterday did help to prove the point that he shouldn't play wide, mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Hardly conclusively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well put it this way, I haven't seen him play well for us once out wide. I've seen him play well plenty of times when in the centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He is excellent in creating plays when there is space but he doesn't have the ability to create space on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I thought he was superb at Old Trafford. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He's very adept at making space for himself, he's simply just not a very aggressive player and consequently suits certain situations better than others. See Chelsea, where he played out wide, compared to Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Well put it this way, I haven't seen him play well for us once out wide. I've seen him play well plenty of times when in the centre. He's barely been played wide though, although I understand he's barely played at all since joining on the whole. From this season I can remember the first half against Everton (a) where he was on the right and struggled with Baines/Pienaar and then Man Utd (a) where he played advanced on the left and was very good. After a bit of digging there were also the two earliest Europa games and Maritimo where he scored. The rest of the time has been bits and pieces here and there, including last season (where he impressed out on the right in cameos and managed to get into the team). Not exactly much to go on. Yesterday we had lost our foothold even before Gouffran's injury, too, it was a tough situation to come into. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I don't think Saturday can be used to prove or disprove Marveaux' ability to play wide, seeing as that's not where he seemed to play at all even though he came in to replace an injured Gouffran. Looked to me like he was operating in an already congested central area, rather than providing a wide option. Whether this was tactical or not I do not know, but he certainly didn't play as far forward and wide as the man he replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I don't think Saturday can be used to prove or disprove Marveaux' ability to play wide, seeing as that's not where he seemed to play at all even though he came in to replace an injured Gouffran. Looked to me like he was operating in an already congested central area, rather than providing a wide option. Whether this was tactical or not I do not know, but he certainly didn't play as far forward and wide as the man he replaced. I think the problem came because Jonas was on the other side so neither was providing much attacking impetus or width. If Marveaux was wide left with Ben Arfa or Gouffran on the right then it wouldn't be as big an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Marveaux is one of the most intelligent footballers at the club right now. Great passer, excellent delivery and can go past players as well. The only issue is defensively he's non-existent. Seeing Gouffran's work rate has only highlighted this. Against certain teams where we won't be exposed he could still be a key player, especially coming off the bench. Whether he would be happy sitting on the bench is the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 He looks like he's more suited to a orthodox wing-role - as opposed to one of the 3 in a 4-2-3-1 - because he can dink past players and has reasonable delivery. Seeing as we rarely play 4-4-2 these days, I think he's better placed in a central position. Agree with TRon with regards to work-rate; Gouffran's excellent determination up and down the park has highlighted Marveaux's weaknesses in this area. It's a bit of a cliche but Marveaux looks like a bit of a luxury player to me at present. Certainly very talented but I think he's behind a few in the squad; purely down to functionality of the team as a whole. I might just be infected by Pardew's containment policies, but I would have the likes of Anita/Cabaye/Tiote ahead of him in the centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Doesn't seem much like a wide man to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Doesn't seem much like a wide man to me. In this league he 100% isn't. Out wide he'll be invisible far too long and cause problems for the full-back behind him. Through the middle it's a much better use of his strengths in addition to somewhat negating his weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I would use him in the Sissoko role, well as back up if we get another winger/wide forward in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Doesn't seem much like a wide man to me. In this league he 100% isn't. Out wide he'll be invisible far too long and cause problems for the full-back behind him. Through the middle it's a much better use of his strengths in addition to somewhat negating his weaknesses. i'd rather he done both when he played, we know sissoko can be very fluid, as can ben arfa, to have gouffran or marveaux being third in similar vein would be very hard to mark out the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VanBarduck Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Marveaux highly praised by Demba Ba , he said that nobody speaks about him , but he's a genius . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 He get's up to some speed when he gets going the boy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Can't believe Jonas starts over this man. It's criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Should be starting more surely? Match winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Can't believe Jonas starts over this man. It's criminal. Jonas starting over Obertan is criminal. The guy's the least threatening attacking player I've seen in our colours since I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Jonas man, sick of hating his shitness, needs to fuck off in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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