Guest icemanblue Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Don't be so hard on yourself, Michael. We all make mistakes. Not nearly as many as you, of course, but that's not the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Don't be so hard on yourself, Michael. We all make mistakes. Not nearly as many as you, of course, but that's not the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He was dogshit today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He was dogshit today. He wasn't fucking dogshit, dogshit is Williamson hoofing it all day long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He was dogshit today. tad harsh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Having seen it again, I think it's more Taylor's fault. He should win that ball every time, Coloccini's mistake was expecting him to do so and leaving himself on the back foot against Bale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He was dogshit today. He wasn't f***ing dogshit, dogshit is Williamson hoofing it all day long. I'd take Willo's hoofs over Krul's, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 He was dogshit today. He wasn't fucking dogshit, dogshit is Williamson hoofing it all day long. Not going to argue about levels of shitness, he was some kind of shit. You pick an animal. Horse? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Adebayor gives our lads nightmares. He's stronger and faster than all of them with a great touch so you can't get tight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Defensively poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Having seen it again, I think it's more Taylor's fault. He should win that ball every time, Coloccini's mistake was expecting him to do so and leaving himself on the back foot against Bale. having seen it again (and again and again) taylor could have done better but as last man, colo was flat footed and slow to react. most of the blame goes to colo here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Taylor was left to chase Colo's man as he just stopped. Taylor's to blame for not winning the header but I think Colo's more to blame for just letting Bale run, could have at least done a tactical foul. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 9, 2013 Share Posted February 9, 2013 Adebayor gives our lads nightmares. He's stronger and faster than all of them with a great touch so you can't get tight. Such horse meat shit tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Having seen it again, I think it's more Taylor's fault. He should win that ball every time, Coloccini's mistake was expecting him to do so and leaving himself on the back foot against Bale. having seen it again (and again and again) taylor could have done better but as last man, colo was flat footed and slow to react. most of the blame goes to colo here. He was flat footed because he expected Taylor to win the earlier challenge which until the last second it looked like he was going to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I don't think he's finished, or anywhere near it, but I do think he should be replaced by Mapou once we're safe. We need to be preparing for next season asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 He was dogshit today. Nar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Having seen it again, I think it's more Taylor's fault. He should win that ball every time, Coloccini's mistake was expecting him to do so and leaving himself on the back foot against Bale. having seen it again (and again and again) taylor could have done better but as last man, colo was flat footed and slow to react. most of the blame goes to colo here. He was flat footed because he expected Taylor to win the earlier challenge which until the last second it looked like he was going to. Even if Taylor had tried to win it, he might have been too far away. And Colo couldn't react quick enough from his starting position. And Bale is lightening quick. It was really unlucky for them both TBF, and yard or two difference in either of their positions and it's not a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Having seen it again, I think it's more Taylor's fault. He should win that ball every time, Coloccini's mistake was expecting him to do so and leaving himself on the back foot against Bale. having seen it again (and again and again) taylor could have done better but as last man, colo was flat footed and slow to react. most of the blame goes to colo here. He was flat footed because he expected Taylor to win the earlier challenge which until the last second it looked like he was going to. Even if Taylor had tried to win it, he might have been too far away. And Colo couldn't react quick enough from his starting position. And Bale is lightening quick. It was really unlucky for them both TBF, and yard or two difference in either of their positions and it's not a goal. It looked like Taylor stumbled slightly when going for the challenge which allowed Bale to steal that vital yard. In any case, Bale caused us a lot of problems all afternoon. I don't know if anyone was detailed to keep him quiet but it didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Having seen it again, I think it's more Taylor's fault. He should win that ball every time, Coloccini's mistake was expecting him to do so and leaving himself on the back foot against Bale. having seen it again (and again and again) taylor could have done better but as last man, colo was flat footed and slow to react. most of the blame goes to colo here. He was flat footed because he expected Taylor to win the earlier challenge which until the last second it looked like he was going to. Even if Taylor had tried to win it, he might have been too far away. And Colo couldn't react quick enough from his starting position. And Bale is lightening quick. It was really unlucky for them both TBF, and yard or two difference in either of their positions and it's not a goal. It looked like Taylor stumbled slightly when going for the challenge which allowed Bale to steal that vital yard. In any case, Bale caused us a lot of problems all afternoon. I don't know if anyone was detailed to keep him quiet but it didn't work. We either tried to make him defend or ignored him. He plays the Cronaldo position for Spurs though. Looks like he's told not to track back too deep/much and be up the field to spring counters like Cronaldo. That leaves the LB vulnerable but we didn't we get at him. I think it was the City match, Vertoghnen was playing LB, no protection whatsoever. He was knackered lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 I thought up until the second goal he put it some vital blocks and was playing really well. Seem to remember Lennon running at him and he just took the ball off him. Couple of crosses he read really well too. He isnt himself like no doubt but thought he was ok yyesterday. Still cant decide who was at fault for the 2nd, bit of both maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think Yanga-Mbiwa is going to be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I think Yanga-Mbiwa is going to be good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 :I see what you did there: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 He was f***ing brilliant against Chelsea like. He certainly hasn't been in the form of last season no doubt about it. The Sunderland match he was great. Whilst i don't think he should be dropped in the PL, Coloccini has been poor consistently since S'land. Fully agree with "he hasn't been at the races" comment. I was saying he was playing poorly before the news came out that he wanted to leave and I got shouted down, people blaming Willo or simply overlooking poor mistakes by Colo etc. Same with Cisse, a bunch of excuses/overlooking faults. For his standard, can people really argue against the claim he's been poor this season? Whilst i don't think he should be dropped in the PL, Coloccini has been poor consistently since S'land. Fully agree with "he hasn't been at the races" comment. I was saying he was playing poorly before the news came out that he wanted to leave and I got shouted down, people blaming Willo or simply overlooking poor mistakes by Colo etc. I don't understand that. For a CB to be actually poor as in very, very bad indeed. You would have to want him dropped. For his standard, can people really argue against the claim he's been poor this season? Absolutely. Colo since he arrived at the club has only had one season where he has been absolute world class and consistent. The Championship doesn't count and for the other seasons at the club he has shown a tendency to have a poor game every here and then. The guy is a top class footballer but like all defenders when there is a lack of help he is prone to have a mistake or so. Look at most top defenders. I mean in the PL, Kompany, Skrtel, Lescott, Ferdinand, Cahill, David Luiz all of them have had one or two costly mistakes. So your argument is an absolute shitfest. Colo has been steady for our last three games. He was nowhere near at fault for the penalty caused by Debuch, or the fact that Perch can't react to a freekick, because let's be honest here, a freekick from that range should never go in when hit at that height. It wasn't a very good freekick and it still went in. And for the 2nd goal both our CBs were at equal amount of fault, so based on that logic Streete and MBiwa should start since they haven't been bad this season yet. How many genuine "poor mistakes" has he actually made? You do your argument no favours when you list giving a free kick away as one of them. Off the top of my head, I can think of Fulhams's second where he lost Rodellega, Stokes second where he didn't track Jerome and Bales second on Saturday. He was also recklessly sent off against Liverpool and wasn't great against Arsenal. Not poor all season but certainly not as imperious as last season. To me, he doesn't look fit and we also have to consider his off the field problems too. EDIT: Suarez's goal and Bruges' first weren't exactly his finest moments either. So we're probably looking at half a dozen mistakes that have led to goals in 20 odd Premiership games, I doubt that's too far off any other season barring last year, where he was playing in a side that collectively finished 5th. We've shipped goals for fun at times this season, a centre back is hardly going to be covered in glory, but I think he's looked solid all season except for when we've came up against pacey hard working forwards, who he's always struggled against. So off the top of your head you've got 6, 2 of which were against the most in form players in the league at the time in Suarez and Bale. I'm not saying he is beyond criticism but for every mistake you've just listed I could probably pick out a game this season where he has been the best player on the pitch. Yeah he hasn't been as good as last season where is was one of the best CBs in the league, but he certainly hasn't done enough to justify being dropped from the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 I feel I may have gone too far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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