madras Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Even if we were to bring in a top quality centre half, out of the remaining ones I'd prefer Colo to part of the squad as opposed to williamson or Taylor for the next year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'm obviously in the minority here but I've not written Colo off just yet. Granted he's knocking on now at 33 (?) but he's always been the kind of defender who looks as if he could play at a high level well into his 30's. We've mentioned the previous coaching set up and how players seemed to stagnate and struggle to perform, and when you consider he's spent the majority of his time here alongside the likes of Mike Williamson and Steven Taylor, I'd suggest he still has something to offer now he has a potentially ideal partner alongside him. A lot of our players have something to prove this season, arguably Coloccini more than most. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 On 07/08/2015 at 09:02, The College Dropout said: Quote Quote Defies belief that the club have retained Coloccini and decided to skimp on replacing him adequately - Colo's pace has definitely gone and opposition managers will play on this right throughout the season. Retaining him for a year as a STANDBY, after buying a top class replacement would have been justified...but we all know this aint going to happen... I don't think he was ever that pacey to begin with. I agree with Ian that the physical decline is exaggerated. He looks basically the same player as when he arrived and he got plenty of stick then too. But he's not though. He's that bit slower. He has to think that bit faster. His leap is that bit shorter and he hasn't compensated with other developments. The pace and strength of the league is starting to get ahead of him again and this time he lacks the tools to adapt. Which is why I said basically the same player. Obviously every player will lose something once they get past a certain age, but at 33 it doesn't necessarily follow that your legs will fall off. From what I saw last season he was still winning about the same number of challenges in the air and still cutting out about the same number of dangerous situations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 The football we want to play, bringing it our from the back, suits Collo to a T, he is calm and collected when bringing the bal out and has the vision to pick out the correct pass. If mbemba, judging by the 20 mins we saw, is as good on the ball as we think, then all of a sudden we have a team capable of stoking the ball about and controlling games better. Colo is still a good player I think, just has had a season where even he probably saw that evrything, team, tactics and future all looked back, perhaps everyone is entitled to a bad one now and again. We have taylor for when we come up against monster centre forwards, so there is some tactical fall back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Mick Lowes actually having a go at Colo on totalsport. Last person I would have expected this from "He's been a bit of a nuisance and a pain" "up to his old tricks" etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 On 07/08/2015 at 12:16, buzza said: The football we want to play, bringing it our from the back, suits Collo to a T, he is calm and collected when bringing the bal out and has the vision to pick out the correct pass. If mbemba, judging by the 20 mins we saw, is as good on the ball as we think, then all of a sudden we have a team capable of stoking the ball about and controlling games better. Colo is still a good player I think, just has had a season where even he probably saw that evrything, team, tactics and future all looked back, perhaps everyone is entitled to a bad one now and again. We have taylor for when we come up against monster centre forwards, so there is some tactical fall back Basically agree, and from McClaren's point of view you can see how we wouldn't have confidence in going out and getting an experienced ball-playing defender to slot straight in as a replacement. It should be possible in theory but at least now he has more time to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 I'll admit I haven't been able to bare to watch us for a good 2 seasons now while I thought Ashley and co. were killing the club, so don't really know what Collocini has been like. Prior to that I thought he was good enough to play for any team in the world if put among like minded footballers. If we are about to see a return to positive tactics, who knows, we may be about to witness the renaissance of what was once a class player. I hope so anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 On 07/08/2015 at 17:13, sbnufc said: Mick Lowes actually having a go at Colo on totalsport. Last person I would have expected this from "He's been a bit of a nuisance and a pain" "up to his old tricks" etc He's Pardew's buddy. Probably just pissed he didn't run to AP and bang on about how great a manager he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 massive risk giving the girly haired tool a new extension ,just hope he was pardewed last season and a new manager brings him back otherwise disaster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 Quote McClaren added: “I think that was a difficult period for everybody. Colo had two or three opportunities to go elsewhere, advance his career and improve contracts. “So we had a decision to make. “I asked all the players, especially the senior players. “To a man they all wanted Colo. “They respect him as a player and in the dressing room. “So really it was just a case of accepting it and us committing to him and him committing to us.” While Crystal Palace played down talk they were in for Coloccini, McClaren - without mentioning specific clubs - added: “He had a year left here. “I think there were other offers on the table. “Other people have said they were distancing themselves and [saying] there were not (offers on the table) but there were. “It is always upsetting when things like that happen, but that is football. “It affected Colo. He has always said from day one his ambition was to play at Newcastle. “Now he has an opportunity to do just that.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 To be fair to McClaren, you can basically read that as 'I don't want to lose the dressing room this early in career' sort of decision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 8, 2015 Share Posted August 8, 2015 If I'm honest, this tells me that McClaren has more say in his start as manager than Pardew ever did. Ashley/Charnley have allowed Steve to assess Colo AND make the decision on whether to keep him AND give him the decision to offer a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Way past it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Shock-horror he's still absolute garbage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Almost as if, at the end he looked fucked because, he's had 0 mins of preseason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 On 09/08/2015 at 14:42, Disco said: Almost as if, at the end he looked fucked because, he's had 0 mins of preseason. Aye I won't read masses into the performance cos he's miles from match-fit, but he wasn't great. Still, I'm glad that Taylor and Williamson were never in with a shout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 On 09/08/2015 at 14:42, Disco said: Almost as if, at the end he looked fucked because, he's had 0 mins of preseason. Has he been injured? Didn't realise that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I think I almost would of preferred Taylor in their today, not sure yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Didn't think he was that bad bar the Mane run at the end. Neither of the goals were his fault. Having said that, we need a bigger partner for Mbemba Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 I think he'll be okay once he's had another week's training under his belt. I still would prefer a genuine stopper in the defence though. Mbemba looks great but we don't have anyone who will win every ball that comes in from a set piece. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 On 09/08/2015 at 14:43, colinmk said: Quote Almost as if, at the end he looked fucked because, he's had 0 mins of preseason. Has he been injured? Didn't realise that. Allegedly so although miraculous recovery as soon as he signed a new deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 On 09/08/2015 at 14:49, TRon said: I think he'll be okay once he's had another week's training under his belt. I still would prefer a genuine stopper in the defence though. Mbemba looks great but we don't have anyone who will win every ball that comes in from a set piece. http://i.imgur.com/29U8qdG.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 Aye right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 On 09/08/2015 at 14:42, Disco said: Almost as if, at the end he looked fucked because, he's had 0 mins of preseason. Dat punctuation. Yoda, is it you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Colossus Posted August 9, 2015 Share Posted August 9, 2015 As has been mentioned, was good on the ball with the style of play more suited to that. Looked bad at the end but obviously hasn't had a pre-season, and Mane would trouble most defenders in that situation. Anyway, I really just wanted to say I loved him attempting to recreate Gazza's goal against Scotland during the first half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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