Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Maybe his falling out with Pardew was more troublesome than previously thought. If true i know which one i'd want to keep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Rupert Fryer @Rupert_Fryer And San Lorenzo are also reported to now be looking at another defender - Mauro Cetto - amid suggestions they are ready to concede defeat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 I'd be shocked if this has anything to do with an illness. He's homesick/doesn't want to play here anymore and is throwing a hissy fit until he gets what he wants. Plain and simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 That's what doesn't add up for me, like. I wouldn't have the first clue about the personality of Coloccini Snr, but I can't believe he wouldn't have at least mentioned once the reason why his son needs to return home. Every comment he makes is centred around his desire to join the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Never understood full-grown professional athletes having their dads, uncles negotiating for them/pulling strings/etc. Trying to imagine bringing my old man to work to negotiate a new contract for me, he'd tell them to fire me. It doesn't matter how old your children are, you still see them as children, and you never quite let them grow up with sticking your nose in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Rupert Fryer @Rupert_Fryer And San Lorenzo are also reported to now be looking at another defender - Mauro Cetto - amid suggestions they are ready to concede defeat. They said that days ago tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 That's what doesn't add up for me, like. I wouldn't have the first clue about the personality of Coloccini Snr, but I can't believe he wouldn't have at least mentioned once the reason why his son needs to return home. Every comment he makes is centred around his desire to join the club. Aye, only ever about San Lorenzo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Never understood full-grown professional athletes having their dads, uncles negotiating for them/pulling strings/etc. Trying to imagine bringing my old man to work to negotiate a new contract for me, he'd tell them to fire me. It doesn't matter how old your children are, you still see them as children, and you never quite let them grow up with sticking your nose in. Nah I get that, but at some point you gotta let them do them. Colo's a 30-year old man, don't understand why he can't fight his own battles. Tbh, I'd be mad as hell if my old man was sticking his neck out to the media and putting out all this bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 http://rockandcloss.fmrockandpop.com/2013/01/21/coloccini-a-san-lorenzo/ Anyone speak Spanish(?)? The main comments have been reported obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Rupert Fryer @Rupert_Fryer And San Lorenzo are also reported to now be looking at another defender - Mauro Cetto - amid suggestions they are ready to concede defeat. 'Yeah well...if you don't give us Coloccini for free we'll sign another player...Mauro Cetto' 'Ok' 'No no no...wait! We'll give you another week to decide.' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 http://rockandcloss.fmrockandpop.com/2013/01/21/coloccini-a-san-lorenzo/ Anyone speak Spanish(?)? The main comments have been reported obviously. One of the longest novels this transfer market is negotiation that is keeping San Lorenzo by Fabricio Coloccini , who is difficult to exit Newcastle . Anyway, Osvaldo, player's father and CEO of Cyclone lower division, said that tomorrow is the day that defines key to everything: "Today there was a meeting inconclusive defined morning" "Fabricio is very anxious, want a definition, for better or for worse. I think it's time to return to San Lorenzo. By the two's desire to make the pass "" In the last hours, the English joined a central, although this does not mean anything, said: "They were looking for an alternative in that position." He added: "In Newcastle asked to wait until May. The issue is whether San Lorenzo is waiting until that date " Finally, Bernardo Romeo, manager of Cyclone, from Salta said: "We need a center. We are waiting. Let us have faith that you can give. Let's find someone if it is not Fabricio " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Never understood full-grown professional athletes having their dads, uncles negotiating for them/pulling strings/etc. Trying to imagine bringing my old man to work to negotiate a new contract for me, he'd tell them to fire me. It doesn't matter how old your children are, you still see them as children, and you never quite let them grow up with sticking your nose in. Nah I get that, but at some point you gotta let them do them. Colo's a 30-year old man, don't understand why he can't fight his own battles. Tbh, I'd be mad as hell if my old man was sticking his neck out to the media and putting out all this bullshit. Unless Colo is complicit and just doesn't want to burn his bridges with us lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 they have got some front these fuckers like. just tell them to fuck off and tell Colo to raise a transfer request and the other club can match the fee which should be 10 mil or more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Not entirely sure how I'd feel if the final decision was between us and San Lorenzo, like. I'm sure we're more than happy to say an emphatic no to them, but what kind of Colo would that leaves us with? I can't believe that he wouldn't be professional about it, but that's based on his former, reliable, behaviour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Never understood full-grown professional athletes having their dads, uncles negotiating for them/pulling strings/etc. Trying to imagine bringing my old man to work to negotiate a new contract for me, he'd tell them to fire me. It doesn't matter how old your children are, you still see them as children, and you never quite let them grow up with sticking your nose in. Nah I get that, but at some point you gotta let them do them. Colo's a 30-year old man, don't understand why he can't fight his own battles. Tbh, I'd be mad as hell if my old man was sticking his neck out to the media and putting out all this bullshit. My youngest is so mental i don't think i could ever release him into the wild. Parents are a nightmare, as i'm finding out as one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 http://rockandcloss.fmrockandpop.com/2013/01/21/coloccini-a-san-lorenzo/ Anyone speak Spanish(?)? The main comments have been reported obviously. One of the longest novels this transfer market is negotiation that is keeping San Lorenzo by Fabricio Coloccini , who is difficult to exit Newcastle . Anyway, Osvaldo, player's father and CEO of Cyclone lower division, said that tomorrow is the day that defines key to everything: "Today there was a meeting inconclusive defined morning" "Fabricio is very anxious, want a definition, for better or for worse. I think it's time to return to San Lorenzo. By the two's desire to make the pass "" In the last hours, the English joined a central, although this does not mean anything, said: "They were looking for an alternative in that position." He added: "In Newcastle asked to wait until May. The issue is whether San Lorenzo is waiting until that date " Finally, Bernardo Romeo, manager of Cyclone, from Salta said: "We need a center. We are waiting. Let us have faith that you can give. Let's find someone if it is not Fabricio " The audio's on there, is what I meant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 If it is a terminal illness, and the club aren't saying anything publicly out of respect, then for the dad and the club to go banging the drum about it in public is extraordinarily classless. They could've had the meeting without telling anyone and come to the same conclusion, if it's something that serious. It's the dad/club thing that is really making me bitter about the whole thing. Just seems very convenient that the father works for a potless club that could end up attracting a £10m+ rated player for fuck all because of 'personal reasons'. Not only that but they have bleated about it in the media constantly and even had the cheek to set deadlines. That's the bit I don't get. If his wife is properly in a bad way then I can't believe his Dad/Lorenzo would be spouting all this shite. It would be incredibly insensitive imho. Sound like if/when they get him, they'll be high-fiving all round, literally cock-a-hoop that he's sign for them. Would you honestly get on like that if he was facing a potentially life changing future? Bazaar, and not at all believeable if you ask me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Never understood full-grown professional athletes having their dads, uncles negotiating for them/pulling strings/etc. Trying to imagine bringing my old man to work to negotiate a new contract for me, he'd tell them to fire me. It doesn't matter how old your children are, you still see them as children, and you never quite let them grow up with sticking your nose in. Nah I get that, but at some point you gotta let them do them. Colo's a 30-year old man, don't understand why he can't fight his own battles. Tbh, I'd be mad as hell if my old man was sticking his neck out to the media and putting out all this bullshit. Unless Colo is complicit and just doesn't want to burn his bridges with us lot. I fully believe that's the case, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Assuming he really does want to leave, what would you be satisfied with as a transfer fee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Assuming he really does want to leave, what would you be satisfied with as a transfer fee? It doesn't really matter does it? It's what the club would be satisfied with. Personally reckon they'd happily takeat £4-5 million. They'd be relatively happy to have an older player with depreciating value replaced by cheaper guys, IMO. That said, it doesn't seem that SL are even capable of paying that. I reckon if he does stay, it'll be down to Pardew's desire to keep him rather than the board's. He mentioned before that it was very much his pushing that got him nailed down long-term. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Assuming he really does want to leave, what would you be satisfied with as a transfer fee? Around £10m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Don't think he will go now due to our position in the league. We obviously just have to be very careful and hear his side and be seen to be understanding I imagine rather than just piss Colo off and have a Tevez situation on our hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 The fee would be immaterial. At this stage, he's irreplaceable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Assuming he really does want to leave, what would you be satisfied with as a transfer fee? However much he would cost to replace; Mbiwa doesn't count as we need a CB whether he stays or goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Assuming he really does want to leave, what would you be satisfied with as a transfer fee? It doesn't really matter does it? It's what the club would be satisfied with. Personally reckon they'd happily takeat £4-5 million. They'd be relatively happy to have an older player with depreciating value replaced by cheaper guys, IMO. That said, it doesn't seem that SL are even capable of paying that. Of course it doesn't really matter, but I'd be more okay with it if we got £7-8 million, considering our transfer policy being seemingly contingent on what we make off sales. Just can't see Ashley, of all people, letting him scamper-off for less than what they think he's worth. And if SL can't realistically pay, maybe we'd get a youngster in return as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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