Fabricio Coloccini (now retired)

[Hanshithispantz]

I want a note from his wife's doctor, medical bills, scans... the lot.

[Village Idiot]

I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be).

 

San Lorenzo are his boyhood club.

[Unbelievable]

I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be).

 

San Lorenzo are his boyhood club.

 

Not according to Wiki (I know)?

[Village Idiot]

I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be).

 

San Lorenzo are his boyhood club.

 

Not according to Wiki (I know)?

 

http://www.somoscuervos.com.ar/media/galeria/72/4/8/2/7/n_san_lorenzo_historia-2057284.jpg

 

Also found a couple interviews in Spanish where he says he's a fan, from before the current fracas.

[Unbelievable]

I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be).

 

San Lorenzo are his boyhood club.

 

Not according to Wiki (I know)?

 

http://www.somoscuervos.com.ar/media/galeria/72/4/8/2/7/n_san_lorenzo_historia-2057284.jpg

 

Doesn't that make San Lorenzo Osvaldo Coloccini's (boyhood) club, rather than Fabricio's? Everything I can find suggests Fabricio Coloccini has only ever played at San lorenzo for one season on loan from AC Milan.

 

Edit: I appreciate this question is completely irrelevant as he seems dead set on joining them sooner rather than later, I just wanted to point out he does not seem to have a long history with them other than apparently his father having played for them and he apparently being a fan.

[Skirge]

Does boyhood club have to who you played for or who you supported ?

[Village Idiot]

A lot of players don't end up playing at their boyhood clubs, it means little. As I said, there's also a few interviews in Spanish where he says he's a fan, all his family were fans, nothing made him prouder than to hear the stadium sing his father's name...

 

http://www.taringa.net/posts/deportes/9244043/Fabricio-Coloccini_-un-grande.html

 

[Unbelievable]

A lot of players don't end up playing at their boyhood clubs, it means little. As I said, there's also a few interviews in Spanish where he says he's a fan.

 

http://www.taringa.net/posts/deportes/9244043/Fabricio-Coloccini_-un-grande.html

 

Fair enough. Wouldn't surprise me if his "personal reasons" amount to nothing more than a burning desire to play for the team he actually supports. Aren't San Lorenzo on the decline, i.e. faced with relegation and in substantial financial trouble?

[Hanshithispantz]

I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be).

 

San Lorenzo are his boyhood club.

 

Not according to Wiki (I know)?

 

http://www.somoscuervos.com.ar/media/galeria/72/4/8/2/7/n_san_lorenzo_historia-2057284.jpg

 

Doesn't that make San Lorenzo Osvaldo Coloccini's (boyhood) club, rather than Fabricio's? Everything I can find suggests Fabricio Coloccini has only ever played at San lorenzo for one season on loan from AC Milan.

 

Edit: I appreciate this question is completely irrelevant as he seems dead set on joining them sooner rather than later, I just wanted to point out he does not seem to have a long history with them other than apparently his father having played for them and he apparently being a fan.

I think you're confusing the term to be honest, "boyhood club" usually just means the club they've supported since they were a child. They tend not to use "support" as obviously playing for other clubs you will form further attachments.

[Village Idiot]

A lot of players don't end up playing at their boyhood clubs, it means little. As I said, there's also a few interviews in Spanish where he says he's a fan.

 

http://www.taringa.net/posts/deportes/9244043/Fabricio-Coloccini_-un-grande.html

 

Fair enough. Wouldn't surprise me if his "personal reasons" amount to nothing more than a burning desire to play for the team he actually supports. Aren't San Lorenzo on the decline, i.e. faced with relegation and in substantial financial trouble?

 

I don't think so, I lurked in a few SLA forums and they are as much at a loss about those "personal problems" as you are.

[Unbelievable]

Ok, learned something new.. Guess we don't really have a word for youngsters who play for one team and support another. We just call them traitors..

[Unbelievable]

For what it's worth I quite like the idea of older players helping out their "boyhood club" to end their career. We get it quite a bit in Holland, for ex. Rijkaard at Ajax, Van Bronckhorst at Feyenoord, etc. Robin van Persie has always said he will one day play for Excelsior Rotterdam, a club of minnows if there ever was one, as that's where he started his career as a little boy, although he never got to play for their first team. In that sense, I could understand where Colo is coming from, but it seems a bit early in his career and begs the question why he signed a new contract in the first case if indeed this is what's behind his desire to move clubs.

[ujpest doza]

I thought he was from Cordoba though, not Buenos Aires?

 

He used to get the bus to Buenos Aires to train with a team at weekends (a 500 mile 8 hour trip on a friday night returning sunday night).

 

Surely therefore Cordoba (or a team from Cordoba) would be his boyhood team?

[Wullie]

I thought he was from Cordoba though, not Buenos Aires?

 

He used to get the bus to Buenos Aires to train with a team at weekends (a 500 mile 8 hour trip on a friday night returning sunday night).

 

Surely therefore Cordoba (or a team from Cordoba) would be his boyhood team?

 

I doubt it works that way in Argentina any more then it does in England.

[ujpest doza]

I thought he was from Cordoba though, not Buenos Aires?

 

He used to get the bus to Buenos Aires to train with a team at weekends (a 500 mile 8 hour trip on a friday night returning sunday night).

 

Surely therefore Cordoba (or a team from Cordoba) would be his boyhood team?

 

I doubt it works that way in Argentina any more then it does in England.

I know, but you'd like to think it did though.

[Ronaldo]

Either way, there's no excuse for this shit when he hasn't communicated with our fans directly or indirectly for over 6 months.

 

Some captain.

[ujpest doza]

Either way, there's no excuse for this shit when he hasn't communicated with our fans directly or indirectly for over 6 months.

 

Some captain.

It's less than 6 months mind.

 

This article was late October for instance and i think it's his last interview.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/fabricio-coloccini-my-bus-rides-to-a-brighter-life-8219006.html

[Guest palnese]

He hasn't talked to the local press in 6 months. Shades of Owen.

[Mick]

Either way, there's no excuse for this s*** when he hasn't communicated with our fans directly or indirectly for over 6 months.

 

Some captain.

 

I think he's been an excellent captain and I think he'll not change that while he plays for us.

[Ronaldo]

You attack Pardew at every given opportunity for the lack of cohesion and morale on the pitch; Coloccini not organising as he should is part of that.

 

Great player but a poor leader.

[Mick]

You attack Pardew at every given opportunity for the lack of cohesion and morale on the pitch; Coloccini not organising as he should is part of that.

 

Great player but a poor leader.

 

Nice try at shifting some of Pardew’s failings onto Coloccini.  The job of a captain these days is mainly symbolic as no team should have to rely on one player for anything once the game kicks off.

[Unbelievable]

You attack Pardew at every given opportunity for the lack of cohesion and morale on the pitch; Coloccini not organising as he should is part of that.

 

Great player but a poor leader.

 

Nice try at shifting some of Pardew’s failings onto Coloccini.  The job of a captain these days is mainly symbolic as no team should have to rely on one player for anything once the game kicks off.

 

What?

[Pilko]

You attack Pardew at every given opportunity for the lack of cohesion and morale on the pitch; Coloccini not organising as he should is part of that.

 

Great player but a poor leader.

 

Nice try at shifting some of Pardew’s failings onto Coloccini.  The job of a captain these days is mainly symbolic as no team should have to rely on one player for anything once the game kicks off.

 

Not having that like. I know when you were younger the captain used to help pick the team and everything, the role is certain different to what it once was, but there's no co-incidence that teams with a weak/poorly-picked captain might struggle more than ones with a strong leader.

[Mick]

 

What?

 

Anybody on the pitch can help organise, talk to other players etc.  The captain is no different from any other player once a game kicks off except that he can talk to the ref to argue our case if he doesn't agree with a decision.

 

Coloccini does talk to our players during the game to give them a gee up, he doesn’t go screaming like an idiot, he just talks to them and none of our players are better than him at leading by example during the game.  Up until now he’s been our best defender and he’s popped up all over the pitch in an attempt to drive us forward.

[Ronaldo]

Heard it all before, man. Every single person who defends Colo's leadership invariably mentions screaming like an idiot. There's a lot of scope there to achieve a balance.