Yorkie Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I'm extremely relieved/delighted that he's staying, but I do think it's poor show that he hasn't said anything at all (for six months). Cliche-arrific this, but correct imo... but it would be nice if he could add some clarity to the situation, directly to the people who pay his wages. EDIT: Wasn't aware of the program column. Hopefully there'll be a soundbite in there about his immediate future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 He owes no-one an explanation of his personal circumstances. This is what I don't get from our fans every now and again, they think players should give them everythign they ask because they play for this club. He is well within his rights to keep these circumstances to himself. he's gone down the correct channels to explain his situation and what he wants. From there it's management that issues any statements. He owes us no column, no detailed explanation. he's told his bosses his problems, now it's them who tell us what is going on. And if he leaves without us ever knowing, then we never know. He's still playing football, we should be happy with that and leave it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Ah well. That said I think there's every chance he'll use the Chelsea one to say as much as he can regarding his position. I very much doubt it. Not sure. It certainly won't dish the nitty gritty but I wouldn't be surprised to see a "love Newcastle, must all stick together, thanks for your patience and understanding" type statement. It's his most obvious platform but if he doesn't say anything there, now that the short term decision has been made, then I can't see him doing it anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 He owes no-one an explanation of his personal circumstances. This is what I don't get from our fans every now and again, they think players should give them everythign they ask because they play for this club. He is well within his rights to keep these circumstances to himself. he's gone down the correct channels to explain his situation and what he wants. From there it's management that issues any statements. He owes us no column, no detailed explanation. he's told his bosses his problems, now it's them who tell us what is going on. And if he leaves without us ever knowing, then we never know. He's still playing football, we should be happy with that and leave it. No intimate details required, just something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 It would make a mockery of the whole idea of his column if he doesn't mention it. They might decide that doesn't matter like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't understand the desperate need for soundbites. Is him saying he's committed to the club going to put your mind at ease? Even if he's not, he's not going to say that so why worry about it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 If this not being made public is part of him staying then I'd rather not know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I don't understand the desperate need for soundbites. Is him saying he's committed to the club going to put your mind at ease? Even if he's not, he's not going to say that so why worry about it? Fair point. I don't usually care about statements, I'd just find it strange for the captain to write a column that doesn't mention that fact he's nearly abandoned ship. As you say though, it would obviously just be generic stuff anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I want a note from his wife's doctor, medical bills, scans... the lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be). San Lorenzo are his boyhood club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be). San Lorenzo are his boyhood club. Not according to Wiki (I know)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be). San Lorenzo are his boyhood club. Not according to Wiki (I know)? http://www.somoscuervos.com.ar/media/galeria/72/4/8/2/7/n_san_lorenzo_historia-2057284.jpg Also found a couple interviews in Spanish where he says he's a fan, from before the current fracas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be). San Lorenzo are his boyhood club. Not according to Wiki (I know)? http://www.somoscuervos.com.ar/media/galeria/72/4/8/2/7/n_san_lorenzo_historia-2057284.jpg Doesn't that make San Lorenzo Osvaldo Coloccini's (boyhood) club, rather than Fabricio's? Everything I can find suggests Fabricio Coloccini has only ever played at San lorenzo for one season on loan from AC Milan. Edit: I appreciate this question is completely irrelevant as he seems dead set on joining them sooner rather than later, I just wanted to point out he does not seem to have a long history with them other than apparently his father having played for them and he apparently being a fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Does boyhood club have to who you played for or who you supported ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 A lot of players don't end up playing at their boyhood clubs, it means little. As I said, there's also a few interviews in Spanish where he says he's a fan, all his family were fans, nothing made him prouder than to hear the stadium sing his father's name... http://www.taringa.net/posts/deportes/9244043/Fabricio-Coloccini_-un-grande.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 A lot of players don't end up playing at their boyhood clubs, it means little. As I said, there's also a few interviews in Spanish where he says he's a fan. http://www.taringa.net/posts/deportes/9244043/Fabricio-Coloccini_-un-grande.html Fair enough. Wouldn't surprise me if his "personal reasons" amount to nothing more than a burning desire to play for the team he actually supports. Aren't San Lorenzo on the decline, i.e. faced with relegation and in substantial financial trouble? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I wanted some sort of statement when it was not clear whether he was staying or leaving, not so much now there is clarity. That letter to San Lorenzo fans is a bit strange though in context, considering he's the captain of THIS club, and has only played there for one season on loan, so it's not like it's his boyhood club and he would die to end his career playing for them (or at least, it shoudn't be). San Lorenzo are his boyhood club. Not according to Wiki (I know)? http://www.somoscuervos.com.ar/media/galeria/72/4/8/2/7/n_san_lorenzo_historia-2057284.jpg Doesn't that make San Lorenzo Osvaldo Coloccini's (boyhood) club, rather than Fabricio's? Everything I can find suggests Fabricio Coloccini has only ever played at San lorenzo for one season on loan from AC Milan. Edit: I appreciate this question is completely irrelevant as he seems dead set on joining them sooner rather than later, I just wanted to point out he does not seem to have a long history with them other than apparently his father having played for them and he apparently being a fan. I think you're confusing the term to be honest, "boyhood club" usually just means the club they've supported since they were a child. They tend not to use "support" as obviously playing for other clubs you will form further attachments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 A lot of players don't end up playing at their boyhood clubs, it means little. As I said, there's also a few interviews in Spanish where he says he's a fan. http://www.taringa.net/posts/deportes/9244043/Fabricio-Coloccini_-un-grande.html Fair enough. Wouldn't surprise me if his "personal reasons" amount to nothing more than a burning desire to play for the team he actually supports. Aren't San Lorenzo on the decline, i.e. faced with relegation and in substantial financial trouble? I don't think so, I lurked in a few SLA forums and they are as much at a loss about those "personal problems" as you are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Ok, learned something new.. Guess we don't really have a word for youngsters who play for one team and support another. We just call them traitors.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 For what it's worth I quite like the idea of older players helping out their "boyhood club" to end their career. We get it quite a bit in Holland, for ex. Rijkaard at Ajax, Van Bronckhorst at Feyenoord, etc. Robin van Persie has always said he will one day play for Excelsior Rotterdam, a club of minnows if there ever was one, as that's where he started his career as a little boy, although he never got to play for their first team. In that sense, I could understand where Colo is coming from, but it seems a bit early in his career and begs the question why he signed a new contract in the first case if indeed this is what's behind his desire to move clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I thought he was from Cordoba though, not Buenos Aires? He used to get the bus to Buenos Aires to train with a team at weekends (a 500 mile 8 hour trip on a friday night returning sunday night). Surely therefore Cordoba (or a team from Cordoba) would be his boyhood team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I thought he was from Cordoba though, not Buenos Aires? He used to get the bus to Buenos Aires to train with a team at weekends (a 500 mile 8 hour trip on a friday night returning sunday night). Surely therefore Cordoba (or a team from Cordoba) would be his boyhood team? I doubt it works that way in Argentina any more then it does in England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 I thought he was from Cordoba though, not Buenos Aires? He used to get the bus to Buenos Aires to train with a team at weekends (a 500 mile 8 hour trip on a friday night returning sunday night). Surely therefore Cordoba (or a team from Cordoba) would be his boyhood team? I doubt it works that way in Argentina any more then it does in England. I know, but you'd like to think it did though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Either way, there's no excuse for this shit when he hasn't communicated with our fans directly or indirectly for over 6 months. Some captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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