Deckard 13 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 It's gone from "four or five 15M players" to 2 more years minimum of Colo. I agree, on paper without having seen Mbemba he's our best CB but that isn't a reason to give him a new contract, it's a massive red flag telling you we need new CB's. I hope for our sake Mbemba is mint, because if he isn't we're screwed. Colo is absolutely done and a new partner alone will not fix that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Massive sign of intent by the club. FucK all has or will change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 With Mbemba, Colo, Lascelles, Dummett, and Taylor all available; I don't think we actually need another CB unless we're buying one with serious quality. The depth is there. Can't see us spending 10m+ on another defender, so this is not at all unexpected. My only issue is that of the defenders we've had the past few seasons, not one is really dominant in the air in the John Terry mould. I've not seen Mbemba or Lascelles yet, I can only hope they are going to provide that, because we already have plenty of cb's who will win 80% of the aerial tussles, but lose the crucial one which costs a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 With Mbemba, Colo, Lascelles, Dummett, and Taylor all available; I don't think we actually need another CB unless we're buying one with serious quality. The depth is there. Can't see us spending 10m+ on another defender, so this is not at all unexpected. My only issue is that of the defenders we've had the past few seasons, not one is really dominant in the air in the John Terry mould. I've not seen Mbemba or Lascelles yet, I can only hope they are going to provide that, because we already have plenty of cb's who will win 80% of the aerial tussles, but lose the crucial one which costs a goal. They both look like big units, so we can hope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Just got to hope he stops playing like a twat and Mbemba is ace I guess. I think McClaren wants some continuity/stability and sees this as an opportunity to do so, despite our abysmal defending in recent years Not sure what to make of it all to be honest, was not expecting this at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Don't mind Colo as a backup, but he shouldn't have a guaranteed starting spot. Nor should he be our on-pitch captain. Really wish we'd just pay Williamson off and bring another centre half in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fabricio-coloccini-turned-down-three-9807178 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3187302/Steve-McClaren-accuses-Alan-Pardew-lying-Fabricio-Coloccini.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Shots fired at the king. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Love it. Eat that Pardiola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Good. Regardless of it being the wrong decision anyway, McClaren is simply a dullard, whereas Pardew is a complete twat. Hope he has a few more digs throughout the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 If we let him go and didnt replace him everyone would murder that decision... The new contact tells me one thing, that he will partner Mbemba at CB. The fact that Taylor appears to be favoured by Steve tells me that he is third choice. In turn, this makes Williamson fourth (or maybe even further back) choice. Happy days. We have a surpless of useless/average defenders, we wont buy any until they are moved on. Keeping Colo for one more year is hardly a negative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 McClaren is right like, that statement Pardew put out was transparent as fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I think the only way I'd ever properly like McClaren is if he sparked Pardew clean out. Hopefully there is now a building tension between the two to increase the small odds of this occurring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Pardew would just push McClaren away with his head. EDIT: Just thinking back to that incident. What a fucking bellend, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Really didn't expect this. Hoping he can rediscover his old form, playing in less of a hoofball team would help him so hopefully McClaren is committed to that. Sadly I think that this time next year we'll be wishing we'd got rid and brought in a replacement while we had the chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 McClaren is right like, that statement Pardew put out was transparent as f***. No, no, no. It was all an elaborate scam set up by Coloccini's agent and backed by Pardew and the whole of Crystal Palace's opperational staff in order for Coloccini to be able to negotiate a contract extension on his terms. There was no interest from Palace, it was all a lie. You big deluded Geordie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Really didn't expect this. Hoping he can rediscover his old form, playing in less of a hoofball team would help him so hopefully McClaren is committed to that. Sadly I think that this time next year we'll be wishing we'd got rid and brought in a replacement while we had the chance. In theory if we do play less direct it should help him, but that's all it is at the moment sadly a theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3187302/Steve-McClaren-accuses-Alan-Pardew-lying-Fabricio-Coloccini.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 Shots fired at the king. That gets a 20 defeat credit from me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 height=500http://i.imgur.com/bAd5ee4.jpg[/img] height=500http://i.imgur.com/CZknqe0.png[/img] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 It looks like he may not have been injured and had his head turned by Palace dangling a 3 year contract. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Possession isn't going to make a teams defensive organisation or individuals any better. Our 2 biggest defeats last year. Was it Leicester & Soton? Wasn't the result of incessant pressure. Just woeful, woeful, defending from the team. and how was our attacking play, ball retention, passing through midfield, getting behind their defence to worry them etc. in those games oh wise one? why are you making out like it's not all linked? of i course i agree that we're littered with examples of rank bad defending and shit defenders who were badly organised, but why can't you just accept that an improved possession and passing game with real attacking intent might relieve the pressure on a defence through them not having to defend their box incessantly every fucking game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 It looks like he may not have been injured and had his head turned by Palace dangling a 3 year contract. That would be god news IMO. We need him to play pronto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Defies belief that the club have retained Coloccini and decided to skimp on replacing him adequately - Colo's pace has definitely gone and opposition managers will play on this right throughout the season. Retaining him for a year as a STANDBY, after buying a top class replacement would have been justified...but we all know this aint going to happen... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 Defies belief that the club have retained Coloccini and decided to skimp on replacing him adequately - Colo's pace has definitely gone and opposition managers will play on this right throughout the season. Retaining him for a year as a STANDBY, after buying a top class replacement would have been justified...but we all know this aint going to happen... noooooot really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 7, 2015 Share Posted August 7, 2015 You can't play deep with a CB who is poor in the air. Can't defend with a highline with a slow defender. A physically deteriorating Colo sounds a nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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