Ronaldo Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 What's the Italian Peter Ramage got to do with this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I still don't see what's so great about Coloccini. He's defending moderately well on a consistent basis, he's as fit as a fiddle which is great, he's classy on the ball for a Premiership centreback - is it the entire package that is having our fans rave about him? Or that in combination with the hair/cult status? If we're talking about pure defending, Coloccini is found wanting in a number of areas imo. His aerial clearances are s*** half the time. He rarely throws his body in an attempt to block a shot. He's pathetic at last ditch tackles. He runs out of position an awful lot to chase down a player who is posing zero threat. He's usually rooted to the ground like a tree when something unexpected happens in the box (e.g. deflection, change of direction, etc), showing very little agility. He has little to no recovery pace at all. He's a class centreback to have, I'm not denying that, but that's for a team at our level, i.e. a mid table team performing above expectations. I don't think for a second that he's top level club/interinational material because he's nowhere near the complete defender. What the fuck is this shit?! Best centre half the vast majority will ever see play for us! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Last ditch tackles, recovery pace and throwing your body in the way of shots = the key components of a great defender. http://www.myfootballfacts.com/LEGENDS_017.JPG Easily the best centre half I've ever seen like. And that was when he was getting on. His performance in the '94 World Cup Final was majestic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 An honest opinion about a now exceptionally popular (and imo overrated) player. Not get to the match much then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 An interesting question actually. Who does everyone think is the best centre half in world football at the moment? I can't say there's a name that immediately jumps out, not like in past days anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Probably thinks Vaughan and Colback would get into our midfield too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 An interesting question actually. Who does everyone think is the best centre half in world football at the moment? I can't say there's a name that immediately jumps out, not like in past days anyway. Good question. I agree there aren't many names that jump out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Pique Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Pique Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Probably. Then again being a centre half in Barca's team is completely different to almost anything that has gone before. You could argue that he has it easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Pique, Chiellini........Hummels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 Probably. Then again being a centre half in Barca's team is completely different to almost anything that has gone before. You could argue that he has it easy. He's no Jonny Evans mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted November 3, 2011 Share Posted November 3, 2011 I still don't see what's so great about Coloccini. He's defending moderately well on a consistent basis, he's as fit as a fiddle which is great, he's classy on the ball for a Premiership centreback - is it the entire package that is having our fans rave about him? Or that in combination with the hair/cult status? If we're talking about pure defending, Coloccini is found wanting in a number of areas imo. His aerial clearances are s*** half the time. He rarely throws his body in an attempt to block a shot. He's pathetic at last ditch tackles. He runs out of position an awful lot to chase down a player who is posing zero threat. He's usually rooted to the ground like a tree when something unexpected happens in the box (e.g. deflection, change of direction, etc), showing very little agility. He has little to no recovery pace at all. He's a class centreback to have, I'm not denying that, but that's for a team at our level, i.e. a mid table team performing above expectations. I don't think for a second that he's top level club/interinational material because he's nowhere near the complete defender. Helmet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I still don't see what's so great about Coloccini. He's defending moderately well on a consistent basis, he's as fit as a fiddle which is great, he's classy on the ball for a Premiership centreback - is it the entire package that is having our fans rave about him? Or that in combination with the hair/cult status? If we're talking about pure defending, Coloccini is found wanting in a number of areas imo. His aerial clearances are s*** half the time. He rarely throws his body in an attempt to block a shot. He's pathetic at last ditch tackles. He runs out of position an awful lot to chase down a player who is posing zero threat. He's usually rooted to the ground like a tree when something unexpected happens in the box (e.g. deflection, change of direction, etc), showing very little agility. He has little to no recovery pace at all. He's a class centreback to have, I'm not denying that, but that's for a team at our level, i.e. a mid table team performing above expectations. I don't think for a second that he's top level club/interinational material because he's nowhere near the complete defender. It's december soon so the christmas tree's pop up everywhere now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Vidic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Vidic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Pique is better than Vidic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Probably. Then again being a centre half in Barca's team is completely different to almost anything that has gone before. You could argue that he has it easy. Piss easy being a current World and European Champion aswell as a La Liga and Champions League holder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Lucio? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Probably. Then again being a centre half in Barca's team is completely different to almost anything that has gone before. You could argue that he has it easy. Piss easy being a current World and European Champion aswell as a La Liga and Champions League holder. Just remembered Pique wasn't in the Euro 2008 squad, so he does have it somewhat easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Kompany's quality aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Kompany's quality aswell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Thiago Silva? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I still don't see what's so great about Coloccini. He's defending moderately well on a consistent basis, he's as fit as a fiddle which is great, he's classy on the ball for a Premiership centreback - is it the entire package that is having our fans rave about him? Or that in combination with the hair/cult status? If we're talking about pure defending, Coloccini is found wanting in a number of areas imo. His aerial clearances are s*** half the time. He rarely throws his body in an attempt to block a shot. He's pathetic at last ditch tackles. He runs out of position an awful lot to chase down a player who is posing zero threat. He's usually rooted to the ground like a tree when something unexpected happens in the box (e.g. deflection, change of direction, etc), showing very little agility. He has little to no recovery pace at all. He's a class centreback to have, I'm not denying that, but that's for a team at our level, i.e. a mid table team performing above expectations. I don't think for a second that he's top level club/interinational material because he's nowhere near the complete defender. I don't think I've ever been as far away from your thinking in a post ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Pique is better than Vidic. Comfortably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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