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merlin

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I GENUINLEY can't understand Ashley's mentality on Pardew and Kinnear.

Yes, they're cheap. But any worthless material thats cheap won't work properly and will make things worse

As Pardew and Kinnear have proved.

Pardew gets good players and makes them FAR worse. Kinnear is....well, Kinnear

 

Love the pic of - Rob Lee is it ? With the MAOC shirt !

 

I think the answer lies in Ashley's mentality ; he doesn't want to admit that his choices are wrong and he believes he is right because his model of running a business seems to work. What he fails to take into account is that running what is basically a discount sports business during times of economic hardship is a totally different ball game from running a top football club. Look at the Pound Shops(or their equivalent) - growing like wildfire because people buy cheap stuff when they are short of money, but many people wouldn't be seen dead there in good times.

 

A club like NUFC, competing at the highest level, needs a good reputation in order to attract decent players and decent managers - our reputation was shot to ribbons after the KK walk out affair and got worse after relegation following Kinnear etc. It looked as if some damage had been repaired after promotion, but then Ashley fired Hughton and brought in Pardew, presumably on the say so of Llambias. Pardew looked decent for the first 18 months, as he always does with every club he has been manager, then, after Llambias persuaded Ashley to give him an 8 year contract, it all started going pear-shaped.......

Ashley was forced to bring in more players in January to avoid relegation, but being someone who always wants to do his opposition down(ask Whelan..)couldn't bring himself to get rid of Pardew when we almost failed to stay up because to do so would have looked as if Pardew and Llambias had stitched him up with the 8 year deal meaning loads of compo for Pardew in the event of a sacking.

He then brought back Kinnear to try to force Pardew's hand , but Pardew knows he will NEVER get a job like NUFC again and prefers to sit tight and pick up the money if and when he does the journey.....which he will in time.

The absence of signings is another lever Ashley is using to try to force Pardew out but it won't work - the only real losers are the fans who have to watch the club stumble from one crisis to another while Ashley salves his bruised ego. I reckon Ashley is gambling that there is going to be enough in the side to stay up until someone else offers to buy the club and he can then get out without losing face or more money.

 

Hard to see any other reason for the situation - most sensible people would cut their losses and get a better Manager/DOF but then, that would be with the aim of improving the club - Ashley has already decided that he is not interested in that, other than to protect his investment with the least possible outlay.

 

He is, and always has been, a chancer and a loose cannon - its worked at Sports Direct, but it hasn't worked at NUFC - clearly.

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colinmk

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There is absolutely no doubt that the advertising power of a team in the premiership all the time is worth a hell of a lot. If you were a proper conspiracy theorist you might suggest that this:

 

'Sportsdirect.com seeks growth in France

 

The UK sports retailer has announced that it seeks growth in France. Frank Odier, France’s representative, has confirmed that it will be taking over Sport 2000 in the shopping centre Evry 2. The boutique opening is scheduled for May. This will be the retailers third store in France. In 2009 it opened its Fresnes’ location and this last April it inaugurated its second store in Herblay. “Two more stores should open in the Parisian region: on in October this year and the other by the beginning of 2012”, announces Frank Odier.'

 

Has had an influence on where we do our first-team shopping.

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They are getting plenty of mileage elsewhere - the gates and its plaque, prominent signage clearly seen on tv, the reveal of the official kit on that tv PL special. Almost always a mention of Wonga somewhere.

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ikri

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I GENUINLEY can't understand Ashley's mentality on Pardew and Kinnear.

Yes, they're cheap. But any worthless material thats cheap won't work properly and will make things worse

As Pardew and Kinnear have proved.

Pardew gets good players and makes them FAR worse. Kinnear is....well, Kinnear

 

Love the pic of - Rob Lee is it ? With the MAOC shirt !

 

I think it's a trust problem.  When Ashley has left people to their own devices it's come back to bite him in the arse in some way.

 

- Allows Allardyce to sign players he wants, ends up stuck with utter rubbish on high wages

- Lets Chris Mort set up a "system", ends up with the manager quitting (rightly) with the others in the system completely despised by the fans and shit at their jobs

- Gets Llambias to run the club, despised by the fans, extremely hesitant in the transfer market to the point that Ashley apparently has to step in to push through purchases in January, fails completely to increase non-football revenues & signs a sponsorship contract that pisses off everyone

 

I don't know if Pardew was Ashley's mate before getting the job or Llambias' mate.  If it was the latter then it's another reason that Ashley might not trust people to do their jobs, if it's the former then it's probably why he's still here despite being demonstrably out of his depth.

 

For some bizarre reason it looks like he trusts JFK hence why he keeps turning to him despite him being a lunatic.

 

Ultimately Ashley's either going to have to bite the bullet and find someone to run the club that he doesn't know and initially trust but who can actually do the job and who knows how football works or he's going to have to be a lot more hands-on in running the club.

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I GENUINLEY can't understand Ashley's mentality on Pardew and Kinnear.

Yes, they're cheap. But any worthless material thats cheap won't work properly and will make things worse

As Pardew and Kinnear have proved.

Pardew gets good players and makes them FAR worse. Kinnear is....well, Kinnear

 

Love the pic of - Rob Lee is it ? With the MAOC shirt !

 

I think it's a trust problem.  When Ashley has left people to their own devices it's come back to bite him in the arse in some way.

 

- Allows Allardyce to sign players he wants, ends up stuck with utter rubbish on high wages

- Lets Chris Mort set up a "system", ends up with the manager quitting (rightly) with the others in the system completely despised by the fans and shit at their jobs

- Gets Llambias to run the club, despised by the fans, extremely hesitant in the transfer market to the point that Ashley apparently has to step in to push through purchases in January, fails completely to increase non-football revenues & signs a sponsorship contract that pisses off everyone

 

I don't know if Pardew was Ashley's mate before getting the job or Llambias' mate.  If it was the latter then it's another reason that Ashley might not trust people to do their jobs, if it's the former then it's probably why he's still here despite being demonstrably out of his depth.

 

For some bizarre reason it looks like he trusts JFK hence why he keeps turning to him despite him being a lunatic.

 

Ultimately Ashley's either going to have to bite the bullet and find someone to run the club that he doesn't know and initially trust but who can actually do the job and who knows how football works or he's going to have to be a lot more hands-on in running the club.

 

I think you're very close to the mark.

 

Generally in his business dealings he works with people who he has known from the very start, or has known over time and promoted. It's clearly a fkn nightmare getting people in he feels comfortable with, and then when he does they turn out to have gained his trust by basically bullshitting just how good they are in a field he knows practically sod all about.

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I GENUINLEY can't understand Ashley's mentality on Pardew and Kinnear.

Yes, they're cheap. But any worthless material thats cheap won't work properly and will make things worse

As Pardew and Kinnear have proved.

Pardew gets good players and makes them FAR worse. Kinnear is....well, Kinnear

 

Love the pic of - Rob Lee is it ? With the MAOC shirt !

 

I think it's a trust problem.  When Ashley has left people to their own devices it's come back to bite him in the arse in some way.

 

- Allows Allardyce to sign players he wants, ends up stuck with utter rubbish on high wages

- Lets Chris Mort set up a "system", ends up with the manager quitting (rightly) with the others in the system completely despised by the fans and shit at their jobs

- Gets Llambias to run the club, despised by the fans, extremely hesitant in the transfer market to the point that Ashley apparently has to step in to push through purchases in January, fails completely to increase non-football revenues & signs a sponsorship contract that pisses off everyone

 

I don't know if Pardew was Ashley's mate before getting the job or Llambias' mate.  If it was the latter then it's another reason that Ashley might not trust people to do their jobs, if it's the former then it's probably why he's still here despite being demonstrably out of his depth.

 

For some bizarre reason it looks like he trusts JFK hence why he keeps turning to him despite him being a lunatic.

 

Ultimately Ashley's either going to have to bite the bullet and find someone to run the club that he doesn't know and initially trust but who can actually do the job and who knows how football works or he's going to have to be a lot more hands-on in running the club.

 

I think you're very close to the mark. :thup:

 

Generally in his business dealings he works with people who he has known from the very start, or has known over time and promoted. It's clearly a fkn nightmare getting people in he feels comfortable with, and then when he does they turn out to have gained his trust by basically bullshitting just how good they are in a field he knows practically sod all about.

 

I saw Sir John Hall on TV the other day for the unveiling of the gates & thought he's exactly what the club needs at this point, Ashley should beg him to come in and run things, then I realised that Ashley hates him and Shepherd for not disclosing some of the debts that needed to be repaid when the club was sold, etc.

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I GENUINLEY can't understand Ashley's mentality on Pardew and Kinnear.

Yes, they're cheap. But any worthless material thats cheap won't work properly and will make things worse

As Pardew and Kinnear have proved.

Pardew gets good players and makes them FAR worse. Kinnear is....well, Kinnear

 

Love the pic of - Rob Lee is it ? With the MAOC shirt !

 

I think it's a trust problem.  When Ashley has left people to their own devices it's come back to bite him in the arse in some way.

 

- Allows Allardyce to sign players he wants, ends up stuck with utter rubbish on high wages

- Lets Chris Mort set up a "system", ends up with the manager quitting (rightly) with the others in the system completely despised by the fans and s*** at their jobs

- Gets Llambias to run the club, despised by the fans, extremely hesitant in the transfer market to the point that Ashley apparently has to step in to push through purchases in January, fails completely to increase non-football revenues & signs a sponsorship contract that pisses off everyone

 

I don't know if Pardew was Ashley's mate before getting the job or Llambias' mate.  If it was the latter then it's another reason that Ashley might not trust people to do their jobs, if it's the former then it's probably why he's still here despite being demonstrably out of his depth.

 

For some bizarre reason it looks like he trusts JFK hence why he keeps turning to him despite him being a lunatic.

 

Ultimately Ashley's either going to have to bite the bullet and find someone to run the club that he doesn't know and initially trust but who can actually do the job and who knows how football works or he's going to have to be a lot more hands-on in running the club.

 

I think you're very close to the mark. :thup:

 

Generally in his business dealings he works with people who he has known from the very start, or has known over time and promoted. It's clearly a fkn nightmare getting people in he feels comfortable with, and then when he does they turn out to have gained his trust by basically bullshitting just how good they are in a field he knows practically sod all about.

 

I saw Sir John Hall on TV the other day for the unveiling of the gates & thought he's exactly what the club needs at this point, Ashley should beg him to come in and run things, then I realised that Ashley hates him and Shepherd for not disclosing some of the debts that needed to be repaid when the club was sold, etc.

 

It doesn't matter if you get the right people to run the club, when the owner is a prick who's not commited in supporting them.The only solution is for Ashley to dell the club to someone else. Don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise.

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I GENUINLEY can't understand Ashley's mentality on Pardew and Kinnear.

Yes, they're cheap. But any worthless material thats cheap won't work properly and will make things worse

As Pardew and Kinnear have proved.

Pardew gets good players and makes them FAR worse. Kinnear is....well, Kinnear

 

Love the pic of - Rob Lee is it ? With the MAOC shirt !

 

I think it's a trust problem.  When Ashley has left people to their own devices it's come back to bite him in the arse in some way.

 

- Allows Allardyce to sign players he wants, ends up stuck with utter rubbish on high wages

- Lets Chris Mort set up a "system", ends up with the manager quitting (rightly) with the others in the system completely despised by the fans and s*** at their jobs

- Gets Llambias to run the club, despised by the fans, extremely hesitant in the transfer market to the point that Ashley apparently has to step in to push through purchases in January, fails completely to increase non-football revenues & signs a sponsorship contract that pisses off everyone

 

I don't know if Pardew was Ashley's mate before getting the job or Llambias' mate.  If it was the latter then it's another reason that Ashley might not trust people to do their jobs, if it's the former then it's probably why he's still here despite being demonstrably out of his depth.

 

For some bizarre reason it looks like he trusts JFK hence why he keeps turning to him despite him being a lunatic.

 

Ultimately Ashley's either going to have to bite the bullet and find someone to run the club that he doesn't know and initially trust but who can actually do the job and who knows how football works or he's going to have to be a lot more hands-on in running the club.

 

Nothing gets done at NUFC without his say so, he may not exactly be hands on, but he has the final say.

 

To say its all down to trust is laughable, its not. Its down to him being an absolute cunt who also happens to be absolutely clueless about football. For us the ultimate recipe for disaster.

 

The man is a cancer to our club.

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I GENUINLEY can't understand Ashley's mentality on Pardew and Kinnear.

Yes, they're cheap. But any worthless material thats cheap won't work properly and will make things worse

As Pardew and Kinnear have proved.

Pardew gets good players and makes them FAR worse. Kinnear is....well, Kinnear

 

Love the pic of - Rob Lee is it ? With the MAOC shirt !

 

I think it's a trust problem.  When Ashley has left people to their own devices it's come back to bite him in the arse in some way.

 

- Allows Allardyce to sign players he wants, ends up stuck with utter rubbish on high wages

- Lets Chris Mort set up a "system", ends up with the manager quitting (rightly) with the others in the system completely despised by the fans and s*** at their jobs

- Gets Llambias to run the club, despised by the fans, extremely hesitant in the transfer market to the point that Ashley apparently has to step in to push through purchases in January, fails completely to increase non-football revenues & signs a sponsorship contract that pisses off everyone

 

I don't know if Pardew was Ashley's mate before getting the job or Llambias' mate.  If it was the latter then it's another reason that Ashley might not trust people to do their jobs, if it's the former then it's probably why he's still here despite being demonstrably out of his depth.

 

For some bizarre reason it looks like he trusts JFK hence why he keeps turning to him despite him being a lunatic.

 

Ultimately Ashley's either going to have to bite the bullet and find someone to run the club that he doesn't know and initially trust but who can actually do the job and who knows how football works or he's going to have to be a lot more hands-on in running the club.

 

Nothing gets done at NUFC without his say so, he may not exactly be hands on, but he has the final say.

 

To say its all down to trust is laughable, its not. Its down to him being an absolute cunt who also happens to be absolutely clueless about football. For us the ultimate recipe for disaster.

 

The man is a cancer to our club.

 

We will come through this. As KK infered the club goes on, it is eternal and it's spirit is indestructable. That day might be a lot sooner than we can dare to dream about.

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