Kaizero Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) VAR - NET SCORE - 2022/2023 Brentford +5 Fulham +5 Liverpool +5 Aston Villa +2 Newcastle +2 Nottm Forest +2 West Ham +2 Leicester City 0 Manchester United 0 Arsenal -1 Chelsea -1 Crystal Palace -1 Everton -1 Southampton -1 Wolves -1 Bournemouth -2 Leeds -2 Tottenham -3 Manchester City -4 Brighton & Hove Albion -6 ^ Current net total of positive/negative decisions going for/against PL teams by VAR. Doesn't take into consideration if a decision is "wrong" or not, it just shows how much VAR has "helped" a team or not. Edited April 8, 2023 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Does that mean anything? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Brighton were absolutely robbed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Just now, Ginola said: Brighton were absolutely robbed Absolutely nuts. Scandalous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Saying either Spurs paid for that performance or the PL have decided they wanted Spurs to win sounds crazy, but the alternative (that it was a series of dodgy calls) seems even more far-fetched Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Two fair goals disallowed and two blatant penalties not given. Its absolutely obscene Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kaizero said: VAR - NET SCORE - 2022/2023 Brentford +5 Fulham +5 Liverpool +5 Aston Villa +2 Newcastle +2 Nottm Forest +2 West Ham +2 Leicester City 0 Manchester United 0 Arsenal -1 Chelsea -1 Crystal Palace -1 Everton -1 Southampton -1 Wolves -1 Bournemouth -2 Leeds -2 Tottenham -3 Manchester City -4 Brighton & Hove Albion -6 ^ Current net total of positive/negative decisions going for/against PL teams by VAR. Doesn't take into consideration if a decision is "wrong" or not, it just shows how much VAR has "helped" a team or not. I think the "Doesn't take into consideration if a decision is wrong or not" bit is quite the caveat. Edited April 8, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 The fact we were robbed of 3 points v. Palace at home presumably isn't featured in those stats too, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: Does that mean anything? With regards to the statements people are making regarding which teams are "benefitting" from VAR, yes. Other than that, no. Some of the most popular statements being made on here concerns VAR absolutely fucking us over all the time and showing preference for the "top six", which is false. I've already made my opinion quite clear on the subject, the standard of refereeing and there not being a unanimous decision reached amongst PL refs on how to use VAR is an absolute shitshow. If there was a set of rules all VAR refs had agreed to follow, as well as the standard of referees being much higher, VAR wouldn't be an issue. The reality at the moment however is that the referees are shit and there are no set rules for how they are to use VAR, which makes VAR absolute shit in action for the Premier League. The standard of referees being absolute shit in the PL has been an issue for years, though. They're not elite athletes, they have inflated egos and they can't handle criticism. Referees at the top level need to be at least close to par fitness wise as the players they are meant to control. The PL refs all seeming to share the same narcissistic tendencies doesn't help either when you're meant to be impartial. Edited April 8, 2023 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Having watched MotD just now - Brighton royally shafted by VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 Utterly despicable officiating from everyone involved in that Spurs-Brighton game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Having watched MotD just now - Brighton royally shafted by VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Utterly despicable officiating from everyone involved in that Spurs-Brighton game. I don’t get how you can’t call the Mitomo pen. He’s stamped on his foot as he’s about to step. It’s as clean a foul as you can see by every letter of the law. The others whilst IMO wrong are at least debatable to varying degrees but that other one is like Ederson wiping out Fraser. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 19 minutes ago, Big Geordie said: Having watched MotD just now - Brighton royally shafted by VAR. Gonna guess MOTD swiftly swept the controversy under the carpet since Spurs got the win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 8, 2023 Share Posted April 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Gonna guess MOTD swiftly swept the controversy under the carpet since Spurs got the win. Shearer hates VAR so definitely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I'm sure I just don't understand the rules, but why is Wilsons goal ruled out? I know that the scorer can't even touch the ball with his arm before scoring (absolute bullshit rule btw, Callum clearly gets no advantage from the ball coming off his arm there), but it comes off the defender before he scores, so surely that should have cancelled the potential hand ball involvement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Fair call Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 I love the concept of VAR, but in classic British fashion you manage to over think, over regulate on details but not properly regulate the bigger issues and over complicate the use of it. Mike Dean has a vacation home at the same golf resort as my father. I'm genuinely a bit reluctant to travel there in case I meet him again as I'm not sure I'd be able to contain myself from giving him grief/abuse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Nobody said: I'm sure I just don't understand the rules, but why is Wilsons goal ruled out? I know that the scorer can't even touch the ball with his arm before scoring (absolute bullshit rule btw, Callum clearly gets no advantage from the ball coming off his arm there), but it comes off the defender before he scores, so surely that should have cancelled the potential hand ball involvement? I think the rule discounts any touches from the opposition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 After seeing what happened to Brighton I don't feel as hard done by, though it obviously helps that we won I'd love to hear an explanation from the officials when it comes to the foul on Mitoma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Hard to not think there isn’t an agenda against us when you have these decisions over the last two weeks, Joelinton’s disallowed goal v Southampton and Anderson’s v Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Brighton were robbed there. The Mitoma goal was a howler from the lino, who's not supposed to be flag happy, that VAR probably could not conclusively correct (assuming it would even want to). However, the second handball doesn't even conclusively hit a hand. It's VAR using guesswork to reverse a decision, just as Wilson's was. Both penalty shouts are pens. The Mitoma one includes a freeze frame with Hojberg's foot on top of Mitoma's, conclusive proof of contact. Dunk's shirt is visibly being held in both hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Have Newcastle actually benefited from any dubious VAR call this season? Did the pope/Jimenez one even go to VAR? The VAR table is a waste of time unless you are just going to have a table for 'dubious VAR calls'. Liverpool are undoubtedly the run away leaders that benefit, ironically wolves have been robbed of results a couple of seasons in a row due to some shocking decisions chalking off very good goals whilst even man city have had some shockers at anfield. These added to our horrific anfield list. If things even themselves out that means the likes of Newcastle are due some ridiculous wave of fortune where as the Scouse and spuds should expect stuff hoofed out of play to be given as goals for the opposition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 Just now, Pancrate1892 said: Have Newcastle actually benefited from any dubious VAR call this season? Did the pope/Jimenez one even go to VAR? The VAR table is a waste of time unless you are just going to have a table for 'dubious VAR calls'. Liverpool are undoubtedly the run away leaders that benefit, ironically wolves have been robbed of results a couple of seasons in a row due to some shocking decisions chalking off very good goals whilst even man city have had some shockers at anfield. These added to our horrific anfield list. If things even themselves out that means the likes of Newcastle are due some ridiculous wave of fortune where as the Scouse and spuds should expect stuff hoofed out of play to be given as goals for the opposition That did go to VAR, all major incidents do go (so potential penalties or red cards), however in that case they deemed the referee didn't make a clear and obvious error (As it happens I thought Jiminez jumped into Pope) Only other one I can think of is Trippier red being overturned after VAR intervenes but I thought that was a correct intervention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 9, 2023 Share Posted April 9, 2023 It’s been talked about a lot but that Spurs - Brighton game is the most appalling game I’ve ever seen from the officials. They all need to be fired, every one of them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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