Lotus Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Pardew will bench him for Fulham, i'm certain of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 If he doesn't start next game then there is something very wrong. A few moments of genuine class from him today in what was otherwise a fairly drab match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Just has the ability to open things up, the wing really looks like his best position so far. Several times he just beat two and ran into space, Best missed a big chance. Has to be starting games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Better striker than Best on the end of that pass and it's a world class assist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Tbf, I did see him working harder than he ever has before defensively so what Pardew has been drumming into him has had some effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shaun Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 If he doesn't start next game then there is something very wrong. How long have we been saying this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Pardew will bench him for Fulham, i'm certain of it. If he doesn't start next game then there is something very wrong. Nah, now surely, surely this is it. Definitely the end of him being on the bench. Surely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 There were about 6 or 7 moves that he orchestrated today that were simply outstanding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoranBadlund Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Tbf, I did see him working harder than he ever has before defensively so what Pardew has been drumming into him has had some effect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Thought his defensive game was quite good really. Played some lush cross field passes and a great through ball for Best I think as well. Will only improve if he's given starts (which he won't, sadly). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 He did OK. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest axel Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 He did OK. sad bastard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 He's so calm man, takes the ball under control, fends off a defender and then just casually surveys the pitch before clipping a 70 yard pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 We played better when he came on, that clearly wasn't solely down to him though as i didn't think he was great or anything. I guess he's lucky Sammi's out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Time and time again I see Ben Arfa spreading the ball wide, or into acres of space. Also from close situations he often sharply plays an incisive pass through tight spaces. Vision. He sees what others can't (or haven't yet). Am I blinded by love, making this up? I can't recall the last time I saw a Newcastle player seeing some of the passes he makes. ---- Also, getting fed up with the 'losing possession' comments. Seems people are focussing on that with disregard to all other players performances. Everyone loses the ball. Just when he sometimes does it he's trying to create something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Time and time again I see Ben Arfa spreading the ball wide, or into acres of space. Also from close situations he often sharply plays an incisive pass through tight spaces. Vision. He sees what others can't (or haven't yet). Am I blinded by love, making this up? I can't recall the last time I saw a Newcastle player seeing some of the passes he makes. ---- Also, getting fed up with the 'losing possession' comments. Seems people are focussing on that with disregard to all other players performances. Everyone loses the ball. Just when he sometimes does it he's trying to create something. Agree. I think it's just highlighted more when he loses the ball because he's usually gone past a few. Raylor, Jonas and Best all lost it just as much as him. If anything he's very tidy on the ball when not taking on players. Good job by him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Torn over whether or not he should give up trying to take on the 4 players surrounding him and pass it or just persist and get the odd goal like the Blackburn one. He did give the ball away a number of times, one they broke from and we probably got a little lucky. It's that sort of thing that Pardew is probably worried about (not that I agree with him). However he was fucking awesome 95% of the time, some of his passes were ridiculous. So, so naturally talented Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Also, getting fed up with the 'losing possession' comments. Seems people are focussing on that with disregard to all other players performances. Everyone loses the ball. Just when he sometimes does it he's trying to create something. Nail on head. He must have only lost the ball about 3-4 times today tbh, probably no more than any other Newcastle player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Time and time again I see Ben Arfa spreading the ball wide, or into acres of space. Also from close situations he often sharply plays an incisive pass through tight spaces. Vision. He sees what others can't (or haven't yet). Am I blinded by love, making this up? I can't recall the last time I saw a Newcastle player seeing some of the passes he makes. ---- Also, getting fed up with the 'losing possession' comments. Seems people are focussing on that with disregard to all other players performances. Everyone loses the ball. Just when he sometimes does it he's trying to create something. Tbf he does lose them in risky areas every now and then, which is why he will be better on the wing, perhaps the left this time so he doesn't have to cut inside everytime he needs to cross? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Had a good game. He gives us so much, although i dont expect Pardew to notice. Such a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 He did OK. sad b****** You what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The play with Santon, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 At times, he looked very dangerous. Other times, he made the wrong decision and looked disinterested. Overall, yes he should be starting obviously but, playing devil's advocate, Pardew may see these times he gives the ball away or drifts out of the game and not be keen on him. Doesn't of course justify starting the woeful Obertan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 The guy has to be starting. The over exaggeration by Wilkins for him losing the ball was ridiculous, but then he's a negative bastard anyway. People like him would rather have 11 hard working "solid" players. Great. Let Hatem loose and we have about 8 or 9 other players outfield who will work their bollocks off to win the ball and we usually do get it back so honestly, who cares if Hatem loses it after skinning 3-4 players, he was and is our main creative force, let the guy do his stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 He has attributes that no one else in the squad has. So far, they've come in fleeting glances - sometimes spectacular, sometimes subtle; today it was more subtly. It's not a huge thing, but we've not had that many players who cut in and stroke it to the other side of the park, whilst maintaining the pace of the attack. Cabaye and Guthrie can loop a high ball from deep, normally to the wide players, and whilst they're very good at it and it can be effective - it can slow the play down. Ben Arfa's got the pace on the ball and vision to take a step back and stick it to the onrushing winger on the ground. It's a good attribute to have. Really hope he stays in the side. Couldn't fathom why he wasn't in the side today, even if Best/Ameobi were starting. Couldn't give a shit about Wilkins. He was talking out his arse all day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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