Tiresias Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 The only player to really come out of Wigan game with credit, so far at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 The only player to really come out of Wigan game with credit, so far at least. and that was for 15min spell in the second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 The only player to really come out of Wigan game with credit, so far at least. and that was for 15min spell in the second half. Aye, had a bad day until those 15mins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 The only player to really come out of Wigan game with credit, so far at least. and that was for 15min spell in the second half. Aye, had a bad day until those 15mins. not a bad day, didn't do much wrong as he didn't do much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Our best player by miles today but was furious when Pards took him off. He's incredible on the ball though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Best player. Now I am going to turn off this forum and pretend football doesn't exist for a while. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Really, really, really, want to see what he'd be like on the left wing on a more permanent basis (and with Santon behind him). His wingplay on that side of the pitch in the past month or two, when he has ventured over there, has been nothing short of phenomenal. It has been like an advert for where he should be playing. Maybe he'd score less goals than on the right wing (and that might explain why he's reluctant to play as a left winger), but I'm sure we can all see that some of his ability is wasted on the right flank because of his own limitations, i.e. he might skin the left back down the outside but because he's not comfortable crossing it with his right (and isn't in the right position to cross with his left) the promising situation he has created is wasted. Whereas down the left, as we've seen, he can just whip it in dangerously after beating his man, and we have two pretty damn excellent strikers ready and waiting for that kind of service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Really, really, really, want to see what he'd be like on the left wing on a more permanent basis (and with Santon behind him). His wingplay on that side of the pitch in the past month or two, when he has ventured over there, has been nothing short of phenomenal. Maybe he'd score less goals than on the right wing, but I'm sure we can all see that some of his ability is wasted on the right flank because of his own limitations, i.e. he might skin the left back down the outside but because he's not comfortable crossing it with his right (and isn't in the right position to cross with his left) the promising situation he has created is wasted. Whereas down the left, as we've seen, he can just whip it in dangerously after beating his man, and we have two pretty damn excellent strikers ready and waiting for that kind of service. i'd like to think when everyone is bedded into the system then he be able to roam as will the other player on that side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 So gifted, could watch him play football all day every day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 So gifted, could watch him play football all day every day i can understand taking him off, i'd have took off ba for the same reason but it does disappoint a little when he goes off as thats a few minutes you'll not be able to watch him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Our best player (not saying much) and the only one to really come out of the game with any credit. Pardew knew the game was gone and probably brought him off to save him for the last 3 games because he is crucial if we are going to create an upset. As soon as he came off our second half period of domination instantly ended and I don't remember us creating another chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M4 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Missed all the action today. Glad to read these comments about his personal performance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Hatem Ben Arfa kept fresh for Chelsea game ALAN PARDEW has explained why he hooked Hatem Ben Arfa at Wigan. The French maestro was in fine form against the relegation-haunted Latics and was Newcastle’s stand-out performer amidst an error strewn defeat. But Pardew revealed today he wanted to keep Ben Arfa fresh for Wednesday’s potentially crucial encounter with Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Should Ben Arfa pick up where he left off at Wigan, the Blues may have a long night on their hands. And while his withdrawal raised eyebrows in the away section, Pardew explained his actions. He told the Chronicle: “He showed some great magic. I took him off early, to be honest. “If we’d have scored when Papiss (Cisse) hit the post I’d have kept him on because you know he could conjure something. “But with the way the game was going it was too much to ask. “I’d rather save him for Wednesday.” Pardew also made a bee-line for the Toon Army at the end of the game. He said: “I went over to the fans to say ‘thanks’. “We kind of let them down. I haven’t had to do that often, and I very rarely go over to them when we win. “But I do thank them for their support and hopefully we give them a better show.” Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/04/30/hatem-ben-arfa-kept-fresh-for-chelsea-game-72703-30866829/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz1tVyIXRob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Hatem Ben Arfa kept fresh for Chelsea game ALAN PARDEW has explained why he hooked Hatem Ben Arfa at Wigan. The French maestro was in fine form against the relegation-haunted Latics and was Newcastle’s stand-out performer amidst an error strewn defeat. But Pardew revealed today he wanted to keep Ben Arfa fresh for Wednesday’s potentially crucial encounter with Chelsea at Stamford Bridge. Should Ben Arfa pick up where he left off at Wigan, the Blues may have a long night on their hands. And while his withdrawal raised eyebrows in the away section, Pardew explained his actions. He told the Chronicle: “He showed some great magic. I took him off early, to be honest. “If we’d have scored when Papiss (Cisse) hit the post I’d have kept him on because you know he could conjure something. “But with the way the game was going it was too much to ask. “I’d rather save him for Wednesday.” Pardew also made a bee-line for the Toon Army at the end of the game. He said: “I went over to the fans to say ‘thanks’. “We kind of let them down. I haven’t had to do that often, and I very rarely go over to them when we win. “But I do thank them for their support and hopefully we give them a better show.” Read More http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/newcastle-united/nufc-news/2012/04/30/hatem-ben-arfa-kept-fresh-for-chelsea-game-72703-30866829/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#ixzz1tVyIXRob Taking Ben Arfa off was exactly the right think to do, the game had gone by that time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToonZA Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Agreed, absolutely nothing to gain from keeping him on the pitch when the game was gone. I must admit initially I wanted to scream some expletive then looked at the clock and realised Pardew was right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Someone in the row behind me was kicking off about Ben Arfa being taken off...I had to say something...I said there's 70minutes gone and were losing 4-0...I'd rest him too to be honest. The bloke wasn't happy like. Mong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Good to see him pulling the strings a lot more in the second, slowly becoming the main creative centre for the team. We're going to need him against Chelsea, has enough in his locker to open them up, let's hope he's given a fair platform to perform and provide for Papiss and Demba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Really, really, really, want to see what he'd be like on the left wing on a more permanent basis (and with Santon behind him). His wingplay on that side of the pitch in the past month or two, when he has ventured over there, has been nothing short of phenomenal. It has been like an advert for where he should be playing. Maybe he'd score less goals than on the right wing (and that might explain why he's reluctant to play as a left winger), but I'm sure we can all see that some of his ability is wasted on the right flank because of his own limitations, i.e. he might skin the left back down the outside but because he's not comfortable crossing it with his right (and isn't in the right position to cross with his left) the promising situation he has created is wasted. Whereas down the left, as we've seen, he can just whip it in dangerously after beating his man, and we have two pretty damn excellent strikers ready and waiting for that kind of service. Really? Really? I dont. I want to see him predominantly stay on the right where he is a massive weapon cutting inside. Also i want to see Santon on right behind him. Not on the left. That said, Barfa has shown that he is dangerous and offers quality delivery on the left too. Roaming and swapping sides now and then through a game is going to be massive for us next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I honestly don't think people should get hung up about where he plays, as long as he gets a lot of the ball and is allowed to float around in between positions he's brilliant anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 I honestly don't think people should get hung up about where he plays, as long as he gets a lot of the ball and is allowed to float around in between positions he's brilliant anywhere. Yeah, pretty much this tbh. His more recent performances suggest he's been given a bit of extra freedom to roam by Pards and we all know he likes to follow the ball, so at the end of the day it's not of huge importance. The only time I'd really consider playing him on the left is if we were going 4-4-2. His left foot is brilliant and for 2 good aerial strikers like Papiss and Demba, it's gold dust. The rest of the time, it's all about the right for me, it gives him more options for passing and of course shooting, where he's scored some very good goals and always looks a threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Where did he play for Marseille? Right wing is his best position in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toondra Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 he was mostly left winger. His best place should be free role, centre, left, right, danger from everywhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 he was mostly left winger. His best place should be free role, centre, left, right, danger from everywhere Aye, proper number 10, thing is though, without him having a set position in the side that weakens the team shape. Would also mean Cabaye would have to play deeper and we have seen in recent weeks that we get the best out of Yohan when he is more advanced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 Where did he play for Marseille? Right wing is his best position in my opinion. He mainly played on either wing but also had a little run through the middle iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted April 30, 2012 Share Posted April 30, 2012 he was out of sorts at wigan, then again so was everyone else. we need him at his best if we going to get something vs chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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