Hatem Ben Arfa

[Tachikoma]

We go down and he's off, considering we're nearly halal through the season and in relegation form the chances of that are high.

 

Racist.

 

fecking iPad

 

[Guest VanBarduck]

i'have been a ben arfa fan for long time ago, i though newcastle could be a competitive team, but honesty,with pardew you doesn't deserve him...

i would love hatem to show the world he is one of the best of his generation, for me he is the most talented player in the word  with messi, but he got to move to a club with real football players to show it...

ameobi, simpson, jonas, williamson,( even tiote and anita)  you don't deserve hatem in your team...

ryan taylor will replace him, he was in front of him next year remember.

Ben Arfa fanboy , before being a Newcastle Fan , huge mistake around here man...

 

Anyway how many times Pardew yailed at Ben Arfa to play more centrally    ?  It seems he was always trough the middle during the second half  , am I the only one who noticed that ? For instance he never maded that much pass since he's in newcastle ( 42 ) in  "only" 70 minutes , something for the future...(at Newcastle , Toondra )

 

[toondra]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ben-arfa-peace-in-the-north-east-8397711.html

Ben Arfa: Peace in the north east

As a youngster, he found it hard to cope with his own brilliance; now Newcastle's brightest star has found contentment with maturity, as he tells Martin Hardy

 

Martin Hardy

 

Monday 10 December 2012

 

 

Hatem Ben Arfa seizes the conversational reins from his interpreter as he looks for a way to explain a new-found maturity. "Against Liverpool, in the first 30 minutes, I lost every ball," he says, animatedly. "Everyone was saying, 'What are you doing?' and the gaffer was thinking, 'What's going on?' When I was younger, if that had happened after 30 minutes, I would have lost confidence. I would have gone in my shell. Now, I keep going, it is my responsibility.

 

"I had to keep going, and then tick, tick. The ball came to me. I went past Jose Enrique, crossed to Yohan [Cabaye] and we scored."

 

Tick, tick.

 

The clock on Ben Arfa's life runs at a more calm pace now. He will return to the Newcastle United team tonight at Fulham after a hamstring strain and spoke of serenity at the Tyneside training ground during preparations.

 

There is relevance to the peace of mind he has found in the north-east of England, for this is a player who has carried a burden of responsibility since he was first spotted, as a child, playing football with his friends in the Parisian suburb of Clamart.

 

"I was about six or seven when I used to play in the area where I grew up," he says. "When I was young I played with my friends and people around my home. They would come and say, 'Ah, we want you in our team,' and, 'You're going to be a good player.'

 

"It came naturally to me. Football came naturally. The control, the touch, the balance, it is natural. Even the tricks, they are natural. When I'm on the pitch, I'm not thinking about what I'm going to do. It is instinctive.

 

"Of course, when I was young you see the people believe in you, sometimes you want to go and play on your own. Sometimes you feel shy. If I did not play well, people would say, 'Oh, what is wrong?'

 

"The pressure has always been there. I grew up with that. Of course it was hard as a child. It is hard growing up, and people said I would be the next big thing."

 

At the age of 12, Ben Arfa went to Le Centre Technique National Fernand-Sastre at Clairefontaine (he would return there 11 years later with his leg badly broken following a challenge by Nigel de Jong). He left home to become a boarder, to learn about football, education and life. A documentary was made of his and his peers' progress; it is an insight into Ben Arfa's character when he was young.

 

"It was hard when I started," he says. "I was 12. I had left my house. I grew up with a lot of guys, there were a lot of us together. I have good memories of Clairefontaine. I look back and it was one of the best experiences of my life. When you are young, you do not care what people say. Then you have the years when you are 17, 18 and 19 when you wonder what people are going to say about you and you don't have a lot of the pleasure of playing football.

 

"Then, with maturity, you enjoy it more and you have pleasure. That is the difference between now and before. I am happier within myself."

 

After three years at Clairefontaine, Ben Arfa left to sign for Lyons. In 2008, he moved to Marseilles for £10m. He won the Ligue 1 title in 2010, and that summer, at the end of August, he moved, initially on loan, to Newcastle. In his fourth game, his leg was snapped in two places. He broke his tibia and fibula. He did not play for nine months.

 

Much of his rehab was spent back at Clairefontaine. He was visited by members of Newcastle's staff, including then manager Chris Hughton, managing director Derek Llambias and owner Mike Ashley. He signed a permanent deal.

 

"It was a very hard period, when your leg is like that and you don't have power. You're in hospital and in pain, and you see football on the television; it is very difficult. But I learned from it as well.

 

"I think there is a reason I had that experience, maybe to learn more. I am happy to have had that experience today – but not then. I can be philosophical about it now. It is a very good thing. I have learned from the experience."

 

He would compare his legs in the hospital, in Clairefontaine, and finally, in the Newcastle dressing room, asking his team-mates if they were now the same size.

 

"I do not do it now, no," he adds, laughing. "Now it is finished, but I used to do that, over and over, 'Same or not? Same or not?' I would say to everyone in the dressing room, 'Is it the same as the other leg? Come, look, are they the same size?' Always asking.

 

"Sometimes they would wind me up and say 'no' and I would train on it again. Now it is finished. When I came back it was hard but now I am OK."

 

There have been nine goals and eight assists in 35 appearances since his return.

 

Last month, Ben Arfa's mesmerising goal against Blackburn Rovers in the FA Cup in January was short-listed for Fifa's Puskas Award for the "most beautiful" goal of the year. No other player in the Premier League made it to the final 10.

 

"It was in Newcastle and all the stadium saw the goal. I am very happy about that. I was very happy. I like to do a trick, to do something different. Here I have the confidence to do that.I want to give the fans something back," Ben Arfa says.

 

"One time in Clairefontaine I went around the goalkeeper and could have scored. Three times I came back and went round him again. Then I missed. Claude Dussault, my old trainer, made me run around the pitch for the rest of training."

 

Dussault recently spoke of Ben Arfa. "Before arriving at Clairefontaine, he was already known throughout the Parisian football scene," he said. "He was making the headlines. He was younger than the others. He definitely had the technical qualities of a good left-footed player.

 

"He worked and analysed his technique and his speed. He is one of the most talented players that has ever come out of Clairefontaine. He is the Nicolas Anelka type but he only uses 75 per cent of his potential. He has just begun to understand football, which is also defensive and collective. At Clairefontaine, he could do more in tiring his opponent and recovering the ball, as he is starting to do now." Alan Pardew, the Newcastle manager, made Ben Arfa conform, then gave him licence. He recently repeated the trick of going round the goalkeeper multiple times.

 

"I did it here I think, yes, yes, I did it again, but I lost. This time I did not have to run around the pitch.

 

"It is a job but I love what I am doing and I enjoy it every day. It is very important to enjoy. Of course you have to win but football is a spectacle, you know. The fans come to see the game for spectacle. They want us to win but they want to see something special as well. I want to give them pleasure.

 

"I feel very happy in Newcastle, I feel welcome, I feel loved here. I love the city, I love the place. I love it when the fans come to meet me, or they come to see me.

 

"This is the most confidence I have been given in my career and I want to do well for the club and the fans. I have realised that it is 30 per cent talent and the rest is hard work. Here in the Premier League you have to be very strong first. After that you can play."

 

With age has come understanding. "I am happier now because I understand myself better," he says. "I slow down, I don't bite. I have more control. I am more mature. I am 25, I am relaxed. I have serenity now.

 

"Every experience I have had in my life has been to make me like that. Not just football, you know, everything that happens in your life helps to improve you. I am growing up more and more and more. Every time you learn from your life, from every situation.

 

"Sometimes we learn the easy way, sometimes we learn the hard way; sometimes you don't want to learn. If you do not learn, in maybe two days it will happen again. Life will give you something to understand. If you don't, it will come back again and again.

 

"Am I more mature because I understand what is expected of me now? Of course."

 

 

Read this and shut the f*** up about him leaving.

 

Thanks.

 

he is a little bit naive, but not stupid: ben arfa is ambitious, and needs a team to fulfill his dream to be one of the best

he will leave by the end of the year 100 per cent

 

Will you go with him?

 

of course, man, but i have always follow the magpies ( i loved that club with ginola and robert too, shearer... not sure you know french ligue one as much ahah).

You know, in France, we don't have really this " follow your local team" way of thinking.

i 'm not a real good supporter like all of you, magpie for life, me love the football genius.

I'm on this forum since hba came two years ago, remember many people writing him off, talking about work rate and "pass it".

two kinds of professional footballer in this world, the hatem kind ( very rare you admit) and the jonas guttierez kind.

You know which one i choose.

respect to everyone

[cp40]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/ben-arfa-peace-in-the-north-east-8397711.html

Ben Arfa: Peace in the north east

As a youngster, he found it hard to cope with his own brilliance; now Newcastle's brightest star has found contentment with maturity, as he tells Martin Hardy

 

Martin Hardy

 

Monday 10 December 2012

 

 

Hatem Ben Arfa seizes the conversational reins from his interpreter as he looks for a way to explain a new-found maturity. "Against Liverpool, in the first 30 minutes, I lost every ball," he says, animatedly. "Everyone was saying, 'What are you doing?' and the gaffer was thinking, 'What's going on?' When I was younger, if that had happened after 30 minutes, I would have lost confidence. I would have gone in my shell. Now, I keep going, it is my responsibility.

 

"I had to keep going, and then tick, tick. The ball came to me. I went past Jose Enrique, crossed to Yohan [Cabaye] and we scored."

 

Tick, tick.

 

The clock on Ben Arfa's life runs at a more calm pace now. He will return to the Newcastle United team tonight at Fulham after a hamstring strain and spoke of serenity at the Tyneside training ground during preparations.

 

There is relevance to the peace of mind he has found in the north-east of England, for this is a player who has carried a burden of responsibility since he was first spotted, as a child, playing football with his friends in the Parisian suburb of Clamart.

 

"I was about six or seven when I used to play in the area where I grew up," he says. "When I was young I played with my friends and people around my home. They would come and say, 'Ah, we want you in our team,' and, 'You're going to be a good player.'

 

"It came naturally to me. Football came naturally. The control, the touch, the balance, it is natural. Even the tricks, they are natural. When I'm on the pitch, I'm not thinking about what I'm going to do. It is instinctive.

 

"Of course, when I was young you see the people believe in you, sometimes you want to go and play on your own. Sometimes you feel shy. If I did not play well, people would say, 'Oh, what is wrong?'

 

"The pressure has always been there. I grew up with that. Of course it was hard as a child. It is hard growing up, and people said I would be the next big thing."

 

At the age of 12, Ben Arfa went to Le Centre Technique National Fernand-Sastre at Clairefontaine (he would return there 11 years later with his leg badly broken following a challenge by Nigel de Jong). He left home to become a boarder, to learn about football, education and life. A documentary was made of his and his peers' progress; it is an insight into Ben Arfa's character when he was young.

 

"It was hard when I started," he says. "I was 12. I had left my house. I grew up with a lot of guys, there were a lot of us together. I have good memories of Clairefontaine. I look back and it was one of the best experiences of my life. When you are young, you do not care what people say. Then you have the years when you are 17, 18 and 19 when you wonder what people are going to say about you and you don't have a lot of the pleasure of playing football.

 

"Then, with maturity, you enjoy it more and you have pleasure. That is the difference between now and before. I am happier within myself."

 

After three years at Clairefontaine, Ben Arfa left to sign for Lyons. In 2008, he moved to Marseilles for £10m. He won the Ligue 1 title in 2010, and that summer, at the end of August, he moved, initially on loan, to Newcastle. In his fourth game, his leg was snapped in two places. He broke his tibia and fibula. He did not play for nine months.

 

Much of his rehab was spent back at Clairefontaine. He was visited by members of Newcastle's staff, including then manager Chris Hughton, managing director Derek Llambias and owner Mike Ashley. He signed a permanent deal.

 

"It was a very hard period, when your leg is like that and you don't have power. You're in hospital and in pain, and you see football on the television; it is very difficult. But I learned from it as well.

 

"I think there is a reason I had that experience, maybe to learn more. I am happy to have had that experience today – but not then. I can be philosophical about it now. It is a very good thing. I have learned from the experience."

 

He would compare his legs in the hospital, in Clairefontaine, and finally, in the Newcastle dressing room, asking his team-mates if they were now the same size.

 

"I do not do it now, no," he adds, laughing. "Now it is finished, but I used to do that, over and over, 'Same or not? Same or not?' I would say to everyone in the dressing room, 'Is it the same as the other leg? Come, look, are they the same size?' Always asking.

 

"Sometimes they would wind me up and say 'no' and I would train on it again. Now it is finished. When I came back it was hard but now I am OK."

 

There have been nine goals and eight assists in 35 appearances since his return.

 

Last month, Ben Arfa's mesmerising goal against Blackburn Rovers in the FA Cup in January was short-listed for Fifa's Puskas Award for the "most beautiful" goal of the year. No other player in the Premier League made it to the final 10.

 

"It was in Newcastle and all the stadium saw the goal. I am very happy about that. I was very happy. I like to do a trick, to do something different. Here I have the confidence to do that.I want to give the fans something back," Ben Arfa says.

 

"One time in Clairefontaine I went around the goalkeeper and could have scored. Three times I came back and went round him again. Then I missed. Claude Dussault, my old trainer, made me run around the pitch for the rest of training."

 

Dussault recently spoke of Ben Arfa. "Before arriving at Clairefontaine, he was already known throughout the Parisian football scene," he said. "He was making the headlines. He was younger than the others. He definitely had the technical qualities of a good left-footed player.

 

"He worked and analysed his technique and his speed. He is one of the most talented players that has ever come out of Clairefontaine. He is the Nicolas Anelka type but he only uses 75 per cent of his potential. He has just begun to understand football, which is also defensive and collective. At Clairefontaine, he could do more in tiring his opponent and recovering the ball, as he is starting to do now." Alan Pardew, the Newcastle manager, made Ben Arfa conform, then gave him licence. He recently repeated the trick of going round the goalkeeper multiple times.

 

"I did it here I think, yes, yes, I did it again, but I lost. This time I did not have to run around the pitch.

 

"It is a job but I love what I am doing and I enjoy it every day. It is very important to enjoy. Of course you have to win but football is a spectacle, you know. The fans come to see the game for spectacle. They want us to win but they want to see something special as well. I want to give them pleasure.

 

"I feel very happy in Newcastle, I feel welcome, I feel loved here. I love the city, I love the place. I love it when the fans come to meet me, or they come to see me.

 

"This is the most confidence I have been given in my career and I want to do well for the club and the fans. I have realised that it is 30 per cent talent and the rest is hard work. Here in the Premier League you have to be very strong first. After that you can play."

 

With age has come understanding. "I am happier now because I understand myself better," he says. "I slow down, I don't bite. I have more control. I am more mature. I am 25, I am relaxed. I have serenity now.

 

"Every experience I have had in my life has been to make me like that. Not just football, you know, everything that happens in your life helps to improve you. I am growing up more and more and more. Every time you learn from your life, from every situation.

 

"Sometimes we learn the easy way, sometimes we learn the hard way; sometimes you don't want to learn. If you do not learn, in maybe two days it will happen again. Life will give you something to understand. If you don't, it will come back again and again.

 

"Am I more mature because I understand what is expected of me now? Of course."

 

 

Read this and shut the f*** up about him leaving.

 

Thanks.

 

he is a little bit naive, but not stupid: ben arfa is ambitious, and needs a team to fulfill his dream to be one of the best

he will leave by the end of the year 100 per cent

 

Will you go with him?

 

of course, man, but i have always follow the magpies ( i loved that club with ginola and robert too, shearer... not sure you know french ligue one as much ahah).

You know, in France, we don't have really this " follow your local team" way of thinking.

i 'm not a real good supporter like all of you, magpie for life, me love the football genius.

I'm on this forum since hba came two years ago, remember many people writing him off, talking about work rate and "pass it".

two kinds of professional footballer in this world, the hatem kind ( very rare you admit) and the jonas guttierez kind.

You know which one i choose.

respect to everyone

 

 

what?

[toondra]

i'have been a ben arfa fan for long time ago, i though newcastle could be a competitive team, but honesty,with pardew you doesn't deserve him...

i would love hatem to show the world he is one of the best of his generation, for me he is the most talented player in the word  with messi, but he got to move to a club with real football players to show it...

ameobi, simpson, jonas, williamson,( even tiote and anita)  you don't deserve hatem in your team...

ryan taylor will replace him, he was in front of him next year remember.

Ben Arfa fanboy , before being a Newcastle Fan , huge mistake around here man...

 

Anyway how many times Pardew yailed at Ben Arfa to play more centrally    ?  It seems he was always trough the middle during the second half  , am I the only one who noticed that ? For instance he never maded that much pass since he's in newcastle ( 42 ) in  "only" 70 minutes , something for the future...(at Newcastle , Toondra )

 

sorry, i answered a little bit in my previous post about the fact i was a ben arfa fan before being a Newcastle fan, i certainly wouldn't be the same if i wasn't born in a country who know nothing about football.....ENGLAND THE MOTHER OF NATIONS lol

It take years for Pardew to see what he got to change: ben arfa substitute most of last year, santon, jonas starter no matter what, now marveaux....

To win trophies, you need talent, not hard workers, except grace in the 2004 euro, hardwork has never won against talent.

respect

 

[Guest loven Mag 11]

Are you french or simple?

[Parky]

i'have been a ben arfa fan for long time ago, i though newcastle could be a competitive team, but honesty,with pardew you doesn't deserve him...

i would love hatem to show the world he is one of the best of his generation, for me he is the most talented player in the word  with messi, but he got to move to a club with real football players to show it...

ameobi, simpson, jonas, williamson,( even tiote and anita)  you don't deserve hatem in your team...

ryan taylor will replace him, he was in front of him next year remember.

Ben Arfa fanboy , before being a Newcastle Fan , huge mistake around here man...

 

Anyway how many times Pardew yailed at Ben Arfa to play more centrally    ?  It seems he was always trough the middle during the second half  , am I the only one who noticed that ? For instance he never maded that much pass since he's in newcastle ( 42 ) in  "only" 70 minutes , something for the future...(at Newcastle , Toondra )

 

sorry, i answered a little bit in my previous post about the fact i was a ben arfa fan before being a Newcastle fan, i certainly wouldn't be the same if i wasn't born in a country who know nothing about football.....ENGLAND THE MOTHER OF NATIONS lol

It take years for Pardew to see what he got to change: ben arfa substitute most of last year, santon, jonas starter no matter what, now marveaux....

To win trophies, you need talent, not hard workers, except grace in the 2004 euro, hardwork has never won against talent.

respect

 

 

Totally agree mate. Your eng isn't so bad.

[alexf]

Toondra you're not going to win this. We all love Hatem and many fans increasingly dislike Pardew, but we had people on here last year telling us he was going to leave and we don't deserve him etc. Doesn't help anyone so give it a rest please.

[Deuce]

i'have been a ben arfa fan for long time ago, i though newcastle could be a competitive team, but honesty,with pardew you doesn't deserve him...

i would love hatem to show the world he is one of the best of his generation, for me he is the most talented player in the word  with messi, but he got to move to a club with real football players to show it...

ameobi, simpson, jonas, williamson,( even tiote and anita)  you don't deserve hatem in your team...

ryan taylor will replace him, he was in front of him next year remember.

Ben Arfa fanboy , before being a Newcastle Fan , huge mistake around here man...

 

Anyway how many times Pardew yailed at Ben Arfa to play more centrally    ?  It seems he was always trough the middle during the second half  , am I the only one who noticed that ? For instance he never maded that much pass since he's in newcastle ( 42 ) in  "only" 70 minutes , something for the future...(at Newcastle , Toondra )

 

sorry, i answered a little bit in my previous post about the fact i was a ben arfa fan before being a Newcastle fan, i certainly wouldn't be the same if i wasn't born in a country who know nothing about football.....ENGLAND THE MOTHER OF NATIONS lol

It take years for Pardew to see what he got to change: ben arfa substitute most of last year, santon, jonas starter no matter what, now marveaux....

To win trophies, you need talent, not hard workers, except grace in the 2004 euro, hardwork has never won against talent.

respect

 

 

this line got me. Went from 0 to 60 in no time at all

[Guest firetotheworks]

I absolutely adore the lad. Him coming off for Shola was a low point in supporting Newcastle similar to Dalglish never playing Ginola.

[Hanshithispantz]

toondra, Ben Arfa fucked yer ma. lol

[Guest VanBarduck]

he's defenitely french , he's as much crazy as I am .. 

[Hanshithispantz]

he's defenitely french , he's as much crazy as I am .. 

I thought you were Belgian

 

Avatar aside.

[Guest VanBarduck]

Toondra you're not going to win this. We all love Hatem and many fans increasingly dislike Pardew, but we had people on here last year telling us he was going to leave and we don't deserve him etc. Doesn't help anyone so give it a rest please.

 

Typical english type of post , so much composure , coolness 

[toondra]

Toondra you're not going to win this. We all love Hatem and many fans increasingly dislike Pardew, but we had people on here last year telling us he was going to leave and we don't deserve him etc. Doesn't help anyone so give it a rest please.

 

honestly, i m'watching all the games, and they are awful...

I'm a little be frustrated to see so s....games, you got to be honest about that..;no technic, no real system of play, hoof ball...

When Marveaux came, i was the first to say this lad got to play day in day out, you need this kind of player to have a real power in this game.

Honestly, except hatem magic, games are so boooooring, that's why i think pardew is not a good coach with the players he got.

Bordeaux is a s... team, they looked brazilians against magpies last week ( even if it was the second team) but still.....

 

[Guest VanBarduck]

he's defenitely french , he's as much crazy as I am .. 

I thought you were Belgian

 

Avatar aside.

 

Well my father has belgium blood , in fact a lot of french are belgium related , not the biggest pride of our nation..

[Pata]

i'have been a ben arfa fan for long time ago, i though newcastle could be a competitive team, but honesty,with pardew you doesn't deserve him...

i would love hatem to show the world he is one of the best of his generation, for me he is the most talented player in the word  with messi, but he got to move to a club with real football players to show it...

ameobi, simpson, jonas, williamson,( even tiote and anita)  you don't deserve hatem in your team...

ryan taylor will replace him, he was in front of him next year remember.

 

Hope he changes his nationality, France doesn't deserve him.

[alexf]

Toondra you're not going to win this. We all love Hatem and many fans increasingly dislike Pardew, but we had people on here last year telling us he was going to leave and we don't deserve him etc. Doesn't help anyone so give it a rest please.

 

honestly, i m'watching all the games, and they are awful...

I'm a little be frustrated to see so s....games, you got to be honest about that..;no technic, no real system of play, hoof ball...

When Marveaux came, i was the first to say this lad got to play day in day out, you need this kind of player to have a real power in this game.

Honestly, except hatem magic, games are so boooooring, that's why i think pardew is not a good coach with the players he got.

Bordeaux is a s... team, they looked brazilians against magpies last week ( even if it was the second team) but still.....

 

 

Take a look at the Pardew thread. We are all sick of how bad we've been this season.

[Deuce]

he's defenitely french , he's as much crazy as I am .. 

I thought you were Belgian

 

Avatar aside.

 

Well my father has belgium blood , in fact a lot of french are belgium related , not the biggest pride of our nation..

 

Nor the Bretons, Basques, Catalans, Alsatians apparently...

[Dave]

Toondra you're not going to win this. We all love Hatem and many fans increasingly dislike Pardew, but we had people on here last year telling us he was going to leave and we don't deserve him etc. Doesn't help anyone so give it a rest please.

 

[toondra]

deluded mags against french frogs...reunited thanks to hatem love

you know that in France, it's really hard to be a ben arfa fan?

90 percent of the people HATE HIM.

they say:  doesn't pass the ball, greedy, c...T, inconsistent, make one good game in 100, is not professional, cause troubles, f... horses etc....

When i think about the fact i dbe a mackem if hba would play for them, am i such a c...t?

question:

if hatem leaves to another premiere league team, will you booooo him at saint james parK? 

 

 

 

 

[Guest VanBarduck]

Toondra you're not going to win this. We all love Hatem and many fans increasingly dislike Pardew, but we had people on here last year telling us he was going to leave and we don't deserve him etc. Doesn't help anyone so give it a rest please.

 

honestly, i m'watching all the games, and they are awful...

I'm a little be frustrated to see so s....games, you got to be honest about that..;no technic, no real system of play, hoof ball...

When Marveaux came, i was the first to say this lad got to play day in day out, you need this kind of player to have a real power in this game.

Honestly, except hatem magic, games are so boooooring, that's why i think pardew is not a good coach with the players he got.

Bordeaux is a s... team, they looked brazilians against magpies last week ( even if it was the second team) but still.....

 

My fellow coutryman , you need to stop this bullshit , have you become a Newcastle fan only since Ben Arfa arrived ?!!! that's a disgrace , I live in Bordeaux , newcastle fan where all over the place thursday night , they travelled about 2000 kms , to see some shitty display , and they keep singing in the stadium , then some of them kept going to every pub they could find  , those a true fan , man , i almost cried that night, I'm french , my english is terrible , but a love to be a Newcastle  fan , and as much as a love Ben arfa , if he live in january , i'll erease him of my memory ...

[toondra]

i'have been a ben arfa fan for long time ago, i though newcastle could be a competitive team, but honesty,with pardew you doesn't deserve him...

i would love hatem to show the world he is one of the best of his generation, for me he is the most talented player in the word  with messi, but he got to move to a club with real football players to show it...

ameobi, simpson, jonas, williamson,( even tiote and anita)  you don't deserve hatem in your team...

ryan taylor will replace him, he was in front of him next year remember.

 

Hope he changes his nationality, France doesn't deserve him.

 

ahahah, so f... true

 

 

[Corrigan]

You can swear

[Unbelievable]

i'have been a ben arfa fan for long time ago, i though newcastle could be a competitive team, but honesty,with pardew you doesn't deserve him...

i would love hatem to show the world he is one of the best of his generation, for me he is the most talented player in the word  with messi, but he got to move to a club with real football players to show it...

ameobi, simpson, jonas, williamson,( even tiote and anita)  you don't deserve hatem in your team...

ryan taylor will replace him, he was in front of him next year remember.

 

Hope he changes his nationality, France doesn't deserve him.