Dave Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Pardew looked really upset. Maybe knows he's to blame. Hopefully he is learning that he can't just rely on average players because they overachieved at the start of the season. So he's going to have to learn to rely on better players? Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Embarrassing defending for the second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Williamson coming back in and doing well will probably be more important than anything to do with Ben Arfa oddly enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Lessons from tonight? Perch is and has been fuckin awful....If Williamson is fit for the bench then he should be starting against Bolton. Tiote isnt ready...Cabaye and Vuckic against Bolton and Tiote off the bench. Obertan should be coming off the bench late in the game against tired defenders NOT starting...Ben Arfa on the right against Bolton. We were shite in defence but we still played some good football going forward. Stats show we were the better side in a thrilling game. We have got to stop the rot and sharpish and AP needs to make some big decisions. Got to be this against Bolton and we HAVE to get at them from the off! ---Krul--- Simpson---Williamson---Coloccini---Santon Cabaye---Vuckic Ben Arfa----------------Jonas Ba---Best Subs: Harper, Perch, Raylor, Tiote, Obertan, Sameobi and Shola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Pathetic tonight like, first time I've come away from a game properly disappointed this season. 3 points at Bolton on Monday is absolutely vital otherwise our season is in real danger of falling flat on it's arse after such a promising start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A lot seem to have forgot we played some good stuff early on. It was during the last half an hour/twenty minutes when desperation began to kick in we resorted to the ineffective long ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 What the fuck? 85th minute? How disappointing. Haven't seen the match yet but I'm sure it's as depressing as it sounds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Sickener tonight especially with Liverpool only drawing and Stoke getting beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Vuckic, two gorgeous strikes, so unlucky not to score. Was like watching Laurent, class hits. As good as those hits were I thought he should have stayed a bit deeper to help Tiote out, I mean Tiote's great and all but he's never going to pass a ball around like Cabaye or Guthrie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A lot seem to have forgot we played some good stuff early on. It was during the last half an hour/twenty minutes when desperation began to kick in we resorted to the ineffective long ball. nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Pathetic tonight like, first time I've come away from a game properly disappointed this season. 3 points at Bolton on Monday is absolutely vital otherwise our season is in real danger of falling flat on it's arse after such a promising start. This. It really is a worry now that Ba is the only one getting the goals. Nothing coming from midfield or defence and no other strikers looking likely to score. Who's scored in the league for us this season? Ba 13?, Shola 1, Best 3? Cabaye 1, Raylor 3?, Jonas 2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Not good enough and didn't deserve a thing. Far too sloppy and wasteful when in possession and West Brom looked crisp and tight. They never looked like losing it. Pardew needs to do something to mix it up a bit because we're becoming far too predictable. Obertan was a disgrace yet again and needs to be benched. He either finds a way to incorporate Ben Arfa into the team or we'll continue to struggle to break solid teams down. Coloccini doesn't look fit, neither does Tiote and we're far too reliant on Ba to bail us out of the shit from our own poor, sloppy mistake-ridden performances recently. Sort the cunt out Pardew. You've had the praise since August, now fix the fucking problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Hoofball for the vast majority of that game. Scared players are a big worry. We're fucked when Demba goes to the ACN. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Vuckic, two gorgeous strikes, so unlucky not to score. Was like watching Laurent, class hits. As good as those hits were I thought he should have stayed a bit deeper to help Tiote out, I mean Tiote's great and all but he's never going to pass a ball around like Cabaye or Guthrie. last year tiote did, remember with the non working nolan ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A lot seem to have forgot we played some good stuff early on. It was during the last half an hour/twenty minutes when desperation began to kick in we resorted to the ineffective long ball. I thought we were dreadful from start to finish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A lot seem to have forgot we played some good stuff early on. It was during the last half an hour/twenty minutes when desperation began to kick in we resorted to the ineffective long ball. I thought we were dreadful from start to finish. We had about two five-minute periods when we looked at it, one just after Ba's second and one leading up to Ba's first. You're right, we were garbage for the whole game really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A lot seem to have forgot we played some good stuff early on. It was during the last half an hour/twenty minutes when desperation began to kick in we resorted to the ineffective long ball. I thought we were dreadful from start to finish. Same. Absolute horseshit longball for the entire game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaVaVoom Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Not good enough and didn't deserve a thing. Far too sloppy and wasteful when in possession and West Brom looked crisp and tight. They never looked like losing it. Pardew needs to do something to mix it up a bit because we're becoming far too predictable. Obertan was a disgrace yet again and needs to be benched. He either finds a way to incorporate Ben Arfa into the team or we'll continue to struggle to break solid teams down. Coloccini doesn't look fit, neither does Tiote and we're far too reliant on Ba to bail us out of the shit from our own poor, sloppy mistake-ridden performances recently. Sort the cunt out Pardew. You've had the praise since August, now fix the fucking problems. Absolutely spot on! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 We had little spells of good play, after our first goal, until their second, and in second half after our second goal until their third. We seem to be desperate when behind, but play reasonable when level, odd game, think almost all the goals including ours were against the run of play, though since they played on the counter that's less surprising for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 What has happened to the team that started this season? We were just wearing some rose-tinted glasses and not looking at the long-ball we were actually playing or have we really gone backwards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Saylor going = no longer one of the better defenses in the league = current results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 Vuckic, two gorgeous strikes, so unlucky not to score. Was like watching Laurent, class hits. As good as those hits were I thought he should have stayed a bit deeper to help Tiote out, I mean Tiote's great and all but he's never going to pass a ball around like Cabaye or Guthrie. last year tiote did, remember with the non working nolan ? What I meant was, Tiote's great at "keep ball" passes (hence his impressive pass completion rate) but he's not the type of player who drives a team forward with his amazing vision or something. Either way, Vuckic was meant to play CM and he kept drifting forward into Ben Arfa's position (which I suppose is his natural position). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 We have some decent players but putting together a decent gameplan which makes the best of those players is an art in itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 a little word about the 'supposed' high line we played today. i don't think it was a set plan but with the midfield being all over the defence has to fill that gap and hope for the best, if not you are left with a huge gap between midfield and defence and today we were very much a defence, midfiled, attack, instead of team defending, team attacking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 21, 2011 Share Posted December 21, 2011 A lot seem to have forgot we played some good stuff early on. It was during the last half an hour/twenty minutes when desperation began to kick in we resorted to the ineffective long ball. I thought we were dreadful from start to finish. The way I saw it we tried to play football early on, some of it was decent, some of it not so much. Poor distribution as opposed to the long ball caused our downfall. Usually Cabaye and Tiote are provide quality on the ball but with formers absence and the latters below-par performance we were below par. Out of desperation we resorted tot he long ball, it didn't work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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