tommo Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 He's got his qualities, but I don't think we should settle for him as our main man into the future and build a team around him. His all round game isn't good enough for where we're hoping to go and we should try to bring in someone better. If that means trading him in, then so be it. Disagree. Build the team around him as your goal scorer and he'll score given the correct service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Whats his record latley? Seems to be the only one scoring. 8 in 16 since Ba left and 6 in his last 10. Not bad at all, I can think of 4 disallowed too off the top of my head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 He's got his qualities, but I don't think we should settle for him as our main man into the future and build a team around him. His all round game isn't good enough for where we're hoping to go and we should try to bring in someone better. If that means trading him in, then so be it. Disagree. Build the team around him as your goal scorer and he'll score given the correct service. Some truth in this, we leave him so isolated that it shows him as someone who doesn't hold the ball up well (which he doesn't). Now get around him more and i think we would see the benefit. Would need a change of philosophy from our manager though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 He's got his qualities, but I don't think we should settle for him as our main man into the future and build a team around him. His all round game isn't good enough for where we're hoping to go and we should try to bring in someone better. If that means trading him in, then so be it. You make it sound as if bringing in a better striker is like buying apples from Tesco. A striker with a better touch might not have anywhere near the same goal instinct. Outside the big money clubs, how many clubs can boast a better striker in the Prem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjmc Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 A 1 in 2 striker for 10 million these days sounds like very good value for money his first half season we were just spoilt a bit like our finishing position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 He's got his qualities, but I don't think we should settle for him as our main man into the future and build a team around him. His all round game isn't good enough for where we're hoping to go and we should try to bring in someone better. If that means trading him in, then so be it. We need another striker regardless and there's no reason if we buy the right one that we can fit them in the same set up. Our reported no 1 target for example Aubameyang has 11 goals and 4 assists in 12 games this season from playing on the wing so there is no reason at all where we cannot fit someone like that in our set up and not effect Cisse in a negative manner. I'm sure he's not the only one either, Cisse is the only one scoring goals we need more goalscorers in the team. You talk about trading him? that would be idiotic as we need another forward anyway so then we would need two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 The idea of getting rid of this fantastic man and player. Ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Reached a point now where every time he scores I'm waiting to see if he's offside before I can celebrate, was the same against Fulham. Killer on the old ticker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 He's got his qualities, but I don't think we should settle for him as our main man into the future and build a team around him. His all round game isn't good enough for where we're hoping to go and we should try to bring in someone better. If that means trading him in, then so be it. this coming from someone who genuinely rates Ameobi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. NSIS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. NSIS I'd have said Cabaye but while he disappeared over both legs Cisse turned up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. NSIS I'd have said Cabaye but while he disappeared over both legs Cisse turned up. Why only consider the two matches with Benfica? How about the likes of Ben Arfa, Mbiwa, Cabaye (indeed) or Krul? If anything I'd say the big clubs will look at Cisse's lack of consistency and steer well clear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. NSIS I'd have said Cabaye but while he disappeared over both legs Cisse turned up. Cabaye would look the bees knees if he played for a club like Man U tbh. Cissé would get a ridiculous amount of goals for any good attacking team like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. NSIS I'd have said Cabaye but while he disappeared over both legs Cisse turned up. Why only consider the two matches with Benfica? How about the likes of Ben Arfa, Mbiwa, Cabaye (indeed) or Krul? If anything I'd say the big clubs will look at Cisse's lack of consistency and steer well clear. Ben Arfa, too injury prone. Mbiwa, hasn't shown enough yet. Cabaye, too many times he has games like against Benfica. Didn't think about Krul, maybe. Cisse is the most likely, Bayern were strongly interested before he came here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. NSIS I'd have said Cabaye but while he disappeared over both legs Cisse turned up. Why only consider the two matches with Benfica? How about the likes of Ben Arfa, Mbiwa, Cabaye (indeed) or Krul? If anything I'd say the big clubs will look at Cisse's lack of consistency and steer well clear. Ben Arfa, too injury prone. Mbiwa, hasn't shown enough yet. Cabaye, too many times he has games like against Benfica. Didn't think about Krul, maybe. Cisse is the most likely, Bayern were strongly interested before he came here. I would put Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Sissoko, Yanga-Mbiwa and Krul as more likely to succeed at a top club. Ben Arfa, Sissoko and Yanga-Mbiwa also had interest from a lot of clubs before coming here btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattypnufc Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Get rid of everyone. Shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Get rid of everyone. Shite. What a ridiculous post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. NSIS I'd have said Cabaye but while he disappeared over both legs Cisse turned up. Why only consider the two matches with Benfica? How about the likes of Ben Arfa, Mbiwa, Cabaye (indeed) or Krul? If anything I'd say the big clubs will look at Cisse's lack of consistency and steer well clear. Ben Arfa, too injury prone. Mbiwa, hasn't shown enough yet. Cabaye, too many times he has games like against Benfica. Didn't think about Krul, maybe. Cisse is the most likely, Bayern were strongly interested before he came here. Don't you think he wouldn't have games like that very often if he played for a manager who actually has a clue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Given that he is 27, you'd think if Cabaye was that good he'd be a 'top club' already, same with Cisse. Both been good for us thought - disclaimer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Get rid of everyone. Shite. What a ridiculous post. There might be some fallacious conclusions, but at least it's well-articulated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Our best player, tbh. Definitely the one player in the squad who is most viable to play for a 'top' club. NSIS I'd have said Cabaye but while he disappeared over both legs Cisse turned up. Why only consider the two matches with Benfica? How about the likes of Ben Arfa, Mbiwa, Cabaye (indeed) or Krul? If anything I'd say the big clubs will look at Cisse's lack of consistency and steer well clear. Ben Arfa, too injury prone. Mbiwa, hasn't shown enough yet. Cabaye, too many times he has games like against Benfica. Didn't think about Krul, maybe. Cisse is the most likely, Bayern were strongly interested before he came here. Well, if I was the manager of a "top club" I would look at the chances Cisse missed in those two matches you conventiently use to discard Cabaye as a stronger candidate to succeed at a higher level and think his 'erraticness' may have cost us the tie.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 5 in 22 with Ba and 8 in 16 without Ba. Hmmmmmmmm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 I'm still a huge fan of his and think we miss the subtle things to his game massively when he's not available. Dribbling is his Cabaye's biggest weakness as a player. Not that he needs to be Ben Arfa, but it costs him in many situations where he is unable to turn away from a player or take somebody out of the game. It means when he is outnumbered or the opposition press him particularly well he can look a bit lost. Even more so in our side with a lack of movement and players not showing for passes to help him with an out that is more suited to his gane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 5 in 22 with Ba and 8 in 16 without Ba. Hmmmmmmmm. 6 in his last 10 too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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