Ishmael Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 The archbishop of Canterbury was forced to admit on Thursday that the Church of England holds a more than £1m investment in one of the main financial backers of Wonga, the payday lender the Most Rev Justin Welby had promised to compete "out of existence". Religion, yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Assume its been mentioned without trawling back but if true the club did well to bring in a Imam to talk him through the situation and try and find a compromise. Glad its all resolved and we can get him on the pitch and ready to watch City tear us apart from the halfway line One thing they seem good at is making all these players feel welcome around the place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Can't believe that there are actually (presumably intelligent) people on here who believe that the casino picture was the game changer. It's incredibly over estimating the importance of fan's perception of a player's religious conviction to the player himself. Cisse's not going to go, "Shat now they've seen my casino picture, Dave and Toon Taylor will know I'm not a good 'Muslim', so I better back down". He had a believe (and it does not matter that the many Islamic experts on this board thinks its hypocritical) that he could not advertise Wonga and yet his conscience allowed him to play in casino. It does not matter what his rationale is, it doesn't matter if this means as a Muslim he will go to hell. All that matters is just that this was his believe. Now he has been persuaded presumably by a combination of Pardew, PFA and perhaps some Muslim folks in the community that wearing Wonga is not too big a deal, he has decided to compromise without getting any financial gain and we should just draw line under this sorry episode and get him match fit. Besides if all he wanted was a pay rise or engineer a move away, he did not need to use religion and probably would not have compromised. Get over it, players don't really care what fans think of them certainly not whether they are a good or hypocritical Muslim. This is just as full of unsupported assumptions as anyone else's guess. In the end what matters is that he's still here and presumably will be playing. That a good thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallace Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Can't believe that there are actually (presumably intelligent) people on here who believe that the casino picture was the game changer. Well Darren Lewis from the Mirror was claiming on Sky Sports this morning that it was because their journalist (not Simon Bird) published the story and photo that they helped to create a resolution to the dispute!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Well Darren Lewis from the Mirror was claiming on Sky Sports this morning that it was because their journalist (not Simon Bird) published the story and photo that they helped to create a resolution to the dispute!!! Christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? My turn... He got into a massive gambling debt and had to turn to pay day lenders. Next... Got Pardews wife up the stick and had to get a back street abortion at 10,Rillington Place .Next.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi_D Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Great post by alpal. Sorted now, lets move on, Cisse is absolutely lush. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Was he the only player observing Ramadan? Could this whole thing not just be him staying due to Portugal not being the ideal place for an athelete training during Ramadan? Ain't got a clue but every story I've seen about this wonga dispute haven't had many sources?. Because our club do not communicate it leads to all sorts of speculation. Would save them a load of hassle if they just told the truth thats all it takes communication Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Can't believe that there are actually (presumably intelligent) people on here who believe that the casino picture was the game changer. It's incredibly over estimating the importance of fan's perception of a player's religious conviction to the player himself. Cisse's not going to go, "Shat now they've seen my casino picture, Dave and Toon Taylor will know I'm not a good 'Muslim', so I better back down". He had a believe (and it does not matter that the many Islamic experts on this board thinks its hypocritical) that he could not advertise Wonga and yet his conscience allowed him to play in casino. It does not matter what his rationale is, it doesn't matter if this means as a Muslim he will go to hell. All that matters is just that this was his believe. Now he has been persuaded presumably by a combination of Pardew, PFA and perhaps some Muslim folks in the community that wearing Wonga is not too big a deal, he has decided to compromise without getting any financial gain and we should just draw line under this sorry episode and get him match fit. Besides if all he wanted was a pay rise or engineer a move away, he did not need to use religion and probably would not have compromised. Get over it, players don't really care what fans think of them certainly not whether they are a good or hypocritical Muslim. This is just as full of unsupported assumptions as anyone else's guess. In the end what matters is that he's still here and presumably will be playing. That a good thing. Exactly. But its ok ti guess in support of Cisse but not against him. This place is so full of fucking shit its unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hope Pardew realises that Papiss is one of the best players at the club and we start playing to his strengths. We need him and Ben Arfa to be the main focus in our attacking game, do that and we've got a chance to have a decent season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Like having a new signing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Can't believe that there are actually (presumably intelligent) people on here who believe that the casino picture was the game changer. Well Darren Lewis from the Mirror was claiming on Sky Sports this morning that it was because their journalist (not Simon Bird) published the story and photo that they helped to create a resolution to the dispute!!! Why not? We've got enough muppets on here doing the same thing, so I say let them have it. It's scant consolation that he hasn't left for some of them I suspect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Bloody love Cisse.. Infinitely glad he is staying. Now to get him a partner and a winger that can bring out the best in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Bloody love Cisse.. Infinitely glad he is staying. Now to get him a partner and a winger that can bring out the best in him. Staying onside would also help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Not playing today according to the fuckwit Ryder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Bloody love Cisse.. Infinitely glad he is staying. Now to get him a partner and a winger that can bring out the best in him. Staying onside would also help The worst part about that is it seems like he's gotten such a reputation for being caught offside that linesmen take all the close decisions against him as well. "Well it's Cisse, he was probably off" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 in his defence he might find it easier staying onside if we had other players occupying the opposition's defenders and pulling them about a bit as it is he's always feeding on scraps anyway, plus all the other team need to do is watch him and keep a line while the rest of our team stand and watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Not playing today according to the fuckwit Ryder. He's right he isn't. Wonder if he'll be playing tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Can't believe that there are actually (presumably intelligent) people on here who believe that the casino picture was the game changer. It's incredibly over estimating the importance of fan's perception of a player's religious conviction to the player himself. Cisse's not going to go, "Shat now they've seen my casino picture, Dave and Toon Taylor will know I'm not a good 'Muslim', so I better back down". So he goes from intransigent, agent involved, no movement, refuses to go to Portugal blah blah blah, then a few pics appear of him openly GAMBLING. Die hard muslims aren't supposed to do THAT either, then within 3-4 days its all sorted. And you reckon it's a coincidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Bit worried these bids for Gomis and Remy mean he's leaving. I'll be really surprised if we go a whole season with 3 competent strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Bit worried these bids for Gomis and Remy mean he's leaving. I'll be really surprised if we go a whole season with 3 competent strikers. Same here, but if he's leaving then at least we should have a couple of competent strikers here to soften the blow. In any case, the Remy deal is far from done, and there's still every chance it will all go up in smoke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 At least if he did go we would have Remy, Gouffran and Gomis instead of Shola. We would actually be prepared for that situation for once, but i don't want to speak to soon especially with regards to Remy. Obviously hope Cisse stays and the other lads join, leading to a good strike force for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Nah, if he was leaving the Wonga row would have been the perfect time to leave. He is going nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 You don't go up against Mike Ashley at NUFC and come away the victor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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