Papiss Cissé

[hakka]

"Like a new signing" is coughed up so often it makes me cringe, was looking on twitter earlier when the news broke and the amount of people saying it...fucking hell.

 

Tbh people can kick off about this all they like but our track record for leaving ourselves short at the expense of a few quid is there for all to see. Every chance it could have happened again, so it is effectively like a new signing.

 

Is it fuck.

 

 

We always needed a replacement for Shola and probably another one for depth, someone who isn't a first team player but more advanced than Campbell in the pecking order. Cisse leaving would have added another requirement on top of that, but he isn't so we haven't changed at all.

[thomas]

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[J7]

It's nothing like a new signing at all. Thats the kind of PR bullshit Ashley wants us to swallow.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It's nothing like a new signing at all. Thats the kind of PR bullshit Ashley wants us to swallow.

 

Doubt he cares much either way TBH.

[Interpolic]

"Like a new signing" is coughed up so often it makes me cringe, was looking on twitter earlier when the news broke and the amount of people saying it...fucking hell.

 

Tbh people can kick off about this all they like but our track record for leaving ourselves short at the expense of a few quid is there for all to see. Every chance it could have happened again, so it is effectively like a new signing.

 

Is it fuck.

 

 

We always needed a replacement for Shola and probably another one for depth, someone who isn't a first team player but more advanced than Campbell in the pecking order. Cisse leaving would have added another requirement on top of that, but he isn't so we haven't changed at all.

 

Ah, you must be sure that we would have signed 2 strikers if Cisse left then.

 

Soz like, I'm just not such a pure mug.

[Interpolic]

It's nothing like a new signing at all. Thats the kind of PR bullshit Ashley wants us to swallow.

 

Doubt he cares much either way TBH.

 

Ah, you really keep this place ticking along.

[NEEJ]

My 'Like a new signing' was clearly a pisstake, btw.

[toontownman]

My 'Like a new signing' was clearly a pisstake, btw.

 

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ljkffigKaD1qafrh6.gif

[hakka]

"Like a new signing" is coughed up so often it makes me cringe, was looking on twitter earlier when the news broke and the amount of people saying it...fucking hell.

 

Tbh people can kick off about this all they like but our track record for leaving ourselves short at the expense of a few quid is there for all to see. Every chance it could have happened again, so it is effectively like a new signing.

 

Is it fuck.

 

 

We always needed a replacement for Shola and probably another one for depth, someone who isn't a first team player but more advanced than Campbell in the pecking order. Cisse leaving would have added another requirement on top of that, but he isn't so we haven't changed at all.

 

Ah, you must be sure that we would have signed 2 strikers if Cisse left then.

 

Soz like, I'm just not such a pure mug.

 

Nah I didn't have faith that would happen, it's what we need imo though.

[J7]

It's nothing like a new signing at all. Thats the kind of PR bullshit Ashley wants us to swallow.

 

Doubt he cares much either way TBH.

I'm sure it came out in the Keegan case that they were basically lying to try and keep people onside. Pardew was the perfect appointment too because he can bullshit his way out of almost anything. Llambais was constantly bullshitting to try and sell some new ridiculous idea to fans. Ashley care's less than he did when he first joined, but he still wants 50'000 gullible cunts paying him £30 a ticket to watch the team play.

[Dave]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

[hakka]

Yup, it seemed like that the first thing we would have done was get Cisse round a table to discuss it. Given that it's eventually panned out to being all ok, you do wonder what the hell delayed it all until now... it's just fueled speculation and embarrassment for the club longer, which we have enough of already.

[Dokko]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

 

You don't know what the PFA and other parties advised the player or the club on this. The correct legal measure could be to do it like this, the correct footballing way obviously differs if so.

[Cajun]

As a club we always react rather than being proactive. It should be under the badge tbh.

[Interpolic]

"Like a new signing" is coughed up so often it makes me cringe, was looking on twitter earlier when the news broke and the amount of people saying it...fucking hell.

 

Tbh people can kick off about this all they like but our track record for leaving ourselves short at the expense of a few quid is there for all to see. Every chance it could have happened again, so it is effectively like a new signing.

 

Is it fuck.

 

 

We always needed a replacement for Shola and probably another one for depth, someone who isn't a first team player but more advanced than Campbell in the pecking order. Cisse leaving would have added another requirement on top of that, but he isn't so we haven't changed at all.

 

Ah, you must be sure that we would have signed 2 strikers if Cisse left then.

 

Soz like, I'm just not such a pure mug.

 

Nah I didn't have faith that would happen, it's what we need imo though.

 

So it's potentially like a new signing then, given that we might well not have replaced him. Cheers for participating.

[Dave]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

 

You don't know what the PFA and other parties advised the player or the club on this. The correct legal measure could be to do it like this, the correct footballing way obviously differs if so.

 

Do you honestly think the PFA would have effectively advised him to miss pre-season training and matches? How on earth is that good for his career?

 

As I said, I don't buy it.

[hakka]

"Like a new signing" is coughed up so often it makes me cringe, was looking on twitter earlier when the news broke and the amount of people saying it...fucking hell.

 

Tbh people can kick off about this all they like but our track record for leaving ourselves short at the expense of a few quid is there for all to see. Every chance it could have happened again, so it is effectively like a new signing.

 

Is it fuck.

 

 

We always needed a replacement for Shola and probably another one for depth, someone who isn't a first team player but more advanced than Campbell in the pecking order. Cisse leaving would have added another requirement on top of that, but he isn't so we haven't changed at all.

 

Ah, you must be sure that we would have signed 2 strikers if Cisse left then.

 

Soz like, I'm just not such a pure mug.

 

Nah I didn't have faith that would happen, it's what we need imo though.

 

So it's potentially like a new signing then, given that we might well not have replaced him. Cheers for participating.

 

 

Whatever mate.

[Dokko]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

 

You don't know what the PFA and other parties advised the player or the club on this. The correct legal measure could be to do it like this, the correct footballing way obviously differs if so.

 

Do you honestly think the PFA would have effectively advised him to avoid pre-season training and matches? How on earth is that good for his career?

 

As I said, I don't buy it.

 

If he wore training gear with the logo on then that could have effected his legal stance. As I said, know one knows but the PFA stepped in and did advise the player, the player didnt go to Portugal. Of course we are not allowed to put 2+2 together round here so pointless even trying to work out why they delay happened.

 

And yes I do think they said something along those lines, it's a groundbreaking case with no similarities so I reckon a lot of time was spent legally working through things on both sides, any action including statements could also be held accountable so neither have said anything.

[Interpolic]

"Like a new signing" is coughed up so often it makes me cringe, was looking on twitter earlier when the news broke and the amount of people saying it...fucking hell.

 

Tbh people can kick off about this all they like but our track record for leaving ourselves short at the expense of a few quid is there for all to see. Every chance it could have happened again, so it is effectively like a new signing.

 

Is it fuck.

 

 

We always needed a replacement for Shola and probably another one for depth, someone who isn't a first team player but more advanced than Campbell in the pecking order. Cisse leaving would have added another requirement on top of that, but he isn't so we haven't changed at all.

 

Ah, you must be sure that we would have signed 2 strikers if Cisse left then.

 

Soz like, I'm just not such a pure mug.

 

Nah I didn't have faith that would happen, it's what we need imo though.

 

So it's potentially like a new signing then, given that we might well not have replaced him. Cheers for participating.

 

 

Whatever mate.

 

Whatever all you like, the people you're trying to mug off are right and you're wrong.

[Incognito]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

 

Maybe he was advised not to go to Portugal just in case somebody claimed they saw him with Madeleine Mccann.

[Dave]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

 

You don't know what the PFA and other parties advised the player or the club on this. The correct legal measure could be to do it like this, the correct footballing way obviously differs if so.

 

Do you honestly think the PFA would have effectively advised him to avoid pre-season training and matches? How on earth is that good for his career?

 

As I said, I don't buy it.

 

If he wore training gear with the logo on then that could have effected his legal stance. As I said, know one knows but the PFA stepped in and did advise the player, the player didnt go to Portugal. Of course we are not allowed to put 2+2 together round here so pointless even trying to work out why they delay happened.

 

And yes I do think they said something along those lines, it's a groundbreaking case with no similarities so I reckon a lot of time was spent legally working through things on both sides.

 

You may be right, but even if so I still don't believe for a second that it couldn't have been resolved in a more speedy, discreet and professional manner if we wanted to do so. For the good of the club, NUFC should have been striving to resolve it and I just don't think they have. Can't prove it obviously, but it fits with almost everything else they've done. Presumably it didn't help that the existing MD resigned after we effectively replaced him with an out of touch clown who prompty pissed off on holiday. We're just rank amateur at board level and it's embarrassing.

[Tooj]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

 

Maybe he was advised not to go to Portugal just in case somebody claimed they saw him with Madeleine Mccann.

 

[Dokko]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

 

You don't know what the PFA and other parties advised the player or the club on this. The correct legal measure could be to do it like this, the correct footballing way obviously differs if so.

 

Do you honestly think the PFA would have effectively advised him to avoid pre-season training and matches? How on earth is that good for his career?

 

As I said, I don't buy it.

 

If he wore training gear with the logo on then that could have effected his legal stance. As I said, know one knows but the PFA stepped in and did advise the player, the player didnt go to Portugal. Of course we are not allowed to put 2+2 together round here so pointless even trying to work out why they delay happened.

 

And yes I do think they said something along those lines, it's a groundbreaking case with no similarities so I reckon a lot of time was spent legally working through things on both sides.

 

You may be right, but even if so I still don't believe for a second that it couldn't have been resolved in a more speedy, discreet and professional manner if we wanted to do so. For the good of the club, NUFC should have been striving to resolve it and I just don't think they have. Can't prove it obviously, but it fits with almost everything else they've done. Presumably it didn't help that the existing MD resigned after we effectively replaced him with an out of touch clown who prompty pissed off on holiday. We're just rank amateur at board level and it's embarrassing.

 

Can't argue with that, just to add I think the FA and PFA etc were worried how big this could become. Bosman or Webster ruling big, it could quite easily have gone down that route. For that reason I think it won't be the last we hear of this, at some point this will lead on to a clarification of the issues raised, if not then as a contract what Cisse signed and any footballer has signed means Cisse legally never stood a chance in the first place, and if you don't believe in the pics etc...then maybe Cisse backed down when legally he had no grounds to effectively go on strike, it took a few weeks for everyone to go over everything to come to that decision.

 

The club and Cisse probably won't say anything more on this, and they shouldn't, but it would be interesting to hear at least from the PFA as to where they stand on this and their opinion on it all. Gordon Taylor is a goby fecker, give him the floor and he'll spill.

 

 

[hoppaz]

Maybe the threat of no pay took a while to sink in. In any religion a contract is still a contract.

[hakka]

What fucks me off is this:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23455637

However, after a week of talks, both sides are satisfied and Cisse is now available to play for Newcastle again.

 

Absolutely no acceptable reason I can think of as to why this has taken so long to happen. He should have been in Portugal with the rest of the squad at the very least. We're so fucking amateur it's unreal.

 

You don't know what the PFA and other parties advised the player or the club on this. The correct legal measure could be to do it like this, the correct footballing way obviously differs if so.

 

Do you honestly think the PFA would have effectively advised him to avoid pre-season training and matches? How on earth is that good for his career?

 

As I said, I don't buy it.

 

If he wore training gear with the logo on then that could have effected his legal stance. As I said, know one knows but the PFA stepped in and did advise the player, the player didnt go to Portugal. Of course we are not allowed to put 2+2 together round here so pointless even trying to work out why they delay happened.

 

And yes I do think they said something along those lines, it's a groundbreaking case with no similarities so I reckon a lot of time was spent legally working through things on both sides.

 

You may be right, but even if so I still don't believe for a second that it couldn't have been resolved in a more speedy, discreet and professional manner if we wanted to do so. For the good of the club, NUFC should have been striving to resolve it and I just don't think they have. Can't prove it obviously, but it fits with almost everything else they've done. Presumably it didn't help that the existing MD resigned after we effectively replaced him with an out of touch clown who prompty pissed off on holiday. We're just rank amateur at board level and it's embarrassing.

 

Can't argue with that, just to add I think the FA and PFA etc were worried how big this could become. Bosman or Webster ruling big, it could quite easily have gone down that route. For that reason I think it won't be the last we hear of this, at some point this will lead on to a clarification of the issues raised, if not then as a contract what Cisse signed and any footballer has signed means Cisse legally never stood a chance in the first place, and if you don't believe in the pics etc...then maybe Cisse backed down when legally he had no grounds to effectively go on strike.

 

It's an interesting point. I don't recall hearing of similar circumstances before, but I guess if he had concerns about religious matters preventing him from playing football then he should have requested them in his contract when signing up. Problem here is that you don't always know what those circumstances may be until they actually happen.