Guest je85 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 I enjoyed reading this from Alves http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/apr/16/dani-alves-barcelona-chelsea Dani Alves: ‘At Barcelona we are taking football back to its origins’ Posted on April 21, 2012 by admin First published online by Sid Lowe. Dani Alves sits behind a large desk in his office in Sant Just Desvern, a small town near Barcelona, wearing a shirt, tie and jacket. Behind him, a cabinet containing countless football shirts, folded neatly, photographs and trophies. Lots of trophies. Through the glass to his right, a board meeting. Through the glass to his left, reception: a leather sofa, the morning’s papers, a television showcasing danialves.com and replaying highlights from the 2011 European Cup final — “the best moment of my career,” he says. The only thing missing is a box of business cards. But what would they say? “Daniel Alves da Silva, right-back”? It would be the most inadequate business card ever, after “Leonardo Da Vinci, painter and decorator”. “But,” protests Alves, “I am a right-back.” A right-back, full-stop? “No, not full stop, no.” It’s just that Alves’s concept of full-back, his philosophy of football, is different. So is his coach Pep Guardiola’s. “In the Brazilian school, the emphasis is on attacking,” Alves says, “but that doesn’t mean I’m not a full-back.” “Take Gareth Bale, a player I love,” he explains. “He’s a full-back in the Brazilian mould, he has a similar idea. In Europe [spurs] play him as a winger, but in my team he’d always be a full-back. People get scared and play attacking full-backs as wingers. They think they will attack more, but often they attack less and less well. It happened with Roberto Carlos: as a winger, he was less effective, he needs to start his run sooner. Bale is more skilful and good as a winger, but at Barcelona he would be a full-back.” It is not about names; it is about concepts. This is not a pitch for Bale, although Barcelona have watched him. It is an illustration. When the Chelsea manager, Roberto Di Matteo, scrawls on the tactics board ahead of Wednesday night’s Champions League first leg, he’ll have a dilemma when it comes to Alves — the player, says Guardiola, who allows Barcelona to play four or three at the back in the same game. The driving force behind the most successful Sevilla side in history, topping the La Liga assist charts one season, involved in more moves than anyone else in Spain the next, Alves found the perfect home at Barcelona when he arrived in 2008. They, in turn, found the perfect player: right-back, right-midfielder, right-winger, centre-forward, central midfielder, support striker, tackler and playmaker, all wrapped into one, hyperactive ball. Athlete and aesthete, ultra-talented and ultra-competitive, a footballing Sonic the Hedgehog, in your face and in your penalty area. And his own. As Jorge Valdano put it: “When Dani Alves runs up the pitch, he meets himself running back down it.” The previous season Chelsea had baulked at the €36m (£29.6) price for just a defender. But Alves has never been just a defender. He was one of only two signings Barcelona made — the other was Gerard Piqué — after two years without winning anything. Then they won the treble. A glance at the trophy cabinet tells the story: three league titles, two Copa del Reys, four Spanish Super Cups, two Uefa Cups, three European Super Cups, two Champions Leagues, two World Club Cups. Eighteen trophies since 2006: no player in the world has been more successful at club level over the last six years. When Lionel Messi broke Barcelona’s goalscoring record, Alves had provided 31 of them — more than anyone else. In 2009-10 he gave more assists than anyone else in Spain; this season only Messi, Ronaldo and Angel Di María have provided more. According to statistics from Opta, only Messi and Xavi have had more touches on the ball in the opposition’s half than him and only two players have completed more passes in the final third. 63.5% of his touches are in the opposition’s half. Ah, say the critics, but that is because he does not defend. Alves’s response is sharp: “People automatically think that because you attack, you can’t defend. Not true.” Again, the question of concepts and of adaptability. Besides, he says, he can defend. “What we cannot do is play with 11 men behind the ball. Defend? Defend what? You can’t ‘defend’, in the traditional sense, a team that does not attack you. And we defend by stopping them attacking us. Against Madrid I hardly attacked because they counter so well. We needed control; if not, they steamroller you. If I am asked to defend, it’s tough because I like attacking, I like to participate, but I will do it. “We’re taking football back to its origins. Interests have changed everything: all that matters is winning any way you can. If you don’t, you are worthless. For me, that’s not football. When I was young I wanted to win but I played because it was fun. Our approach has a bit of that. Enjoyment. I love football, adore it. We have to give something back to the fans. “Because I already had a similar concept to Barcelona, that made coming here easier. It was also why Barcelona signed me: they knew I would fit in. Their game is touch, technique, combination, attacking. Barça always sign players that share the approach, with the right characteristics,” Alves says, adopting a mock sporting director’s voice. “Barça never say ‘People are talking about him, let’s sign him’. No. Look at Alexis [sánchez]: he’s spectacular, but he was not so mediático. Yet Barca paid a lot of money because they knew what he could bring. “The most difficult thing about Barcelona is not the way they play but the way of understanding the game. Tactically, I’ve improved under Pep, learning to do the simplest thing, which sometimes is the most difficult thing. But the key is the way we pressure — and the first person to lead the pressure is our best player, Leo Messi. That’s the starting point for an entire philosophy. I never thought that a team could pressure like we do: from minute one to minute 95, pressuring the ball and in the opposition’s half. Pep’s greatest success is convincing players, even great players, to do that.” He recalls Guardiola’s message before the 2011 final, a dominant 3-1 victory over Manchester United at Wembley. “The only thing he asked us to do is attack – it’s the only way to win, especially against physically strong teams with devastating counterattacks. You can’t let them have the ball: if they have the ball you have to get it back. Quickly. After the final, [Nemanja] Vidic congratulated us, saying we had a spectacular team. When you hear that from people who really know about the game and how difficult it is to be a footballer, it’s the leche, the business. People attack you sometimes and you think ‘you don’t know anything’. When I’m sitting on the sofa I’m the best player in the world but you have got to go out there and play. Vidic’s words meant a lot.” For Barcelona, more so. They have encountered resistance and accusations. Alves, 28, speaks intelligently and analytically; he knows his image is different and admits that sometimes he does not recognise himself on the pitch. Asked if he would ever be a referee, he sounds terrified: “No!” he exclaims. “People already don’t like me; imagine what it would be like if I was a referee!” It is clear that the pressure counts. “It can be irritating that people look for the flaws or question the validity of your success but that’s an expression of their impotence, really; a way of detracting attention,” he says. “Instead of concentrating on competing, some focus on dragging you down. “People think that footballers just have a kick around with their mates. If they win, fine; if they don’t, that’s then fine too. No pasa nada. No. You have an obligation and responsibility. I’ve been in the game for so long that I can handle it but there are still moments when the nerves get the better of you. The fear of losing makes you better because it stops you cruising. Big teams and big players are scared sometimes too. What you can never be scared of is playing.” Talk of being “scared” leads to the 2009 semi-final that casts such a shadow over this clash. Why did Chelsea lose? Alves’s answer is direct: “fear.” “There’s no doubt that was the hardest game we’ve played,” he says. “People say Chelsea would have won but for the referee, but what can we do about that? I think that [in 2009], Chelsea didn’t reach the final because of fear. The team that has got a man more, at home, winning 1-0, should have attacked us. Chelsea lacked the courage to take a step forward. Instead, they took a step back and they paid for it. When we saw they were not attacking us, we realised they had renounced the game. They were satisfied with 1-0, they were satisfied but forgot that at 1-1 we were through. All they did was get rid of the ball. They gifted us possession — and the worst thing you can do with Barcelona is give them possession.” Alves’s discourse has come full circle. “Of course,” he adds. “If you don’t have that concept of football, that’s what happens. Te quedas atrás, te quedás atrás, y te quedas fuera. [The rough translation runs: You go back, you go back, you go out.] You can never stay back. You can’t! You have to go forward. Stay back: losers. Go forward: winners.” Now, that is something Dani Alves could put on that business card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Dani Alves has an office? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 He, however, has had some brilliant performances as conventional winger (Bernabéu in the league, for example, or the CWC), which I guess has made Pep insist on that role with more mixed results when you look as a whole. I agree that he is best used using his ridiculous athleticism to come from deep and surprise the opposition's defence, he's not as good as a winger where he will be marked and watched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest je85 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Dani Alves has an office? If I was a footballer I'd make sure I had an office, loads of old books and a nice big leather chair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Manager of other club leaves. Meh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Good luck to Vilanova. He has some massive shoes to fill but with the likes of Xavi, Messi, Iniesta still there (and players he already knows), he does have the resources to succeed. Barça still need a proper striker though, they have really missed Villa. Half the defence needs fixing too id argue with Abidal's unfortunate health issues and Puyol getting on. That's true aye, they certainly need another CB in, Puyol can't keep playing games week in and week out, not at his age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Sad but expected news Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Wonder if some of those rumours linking him with Chelsea are true. Chelsea would be mad to start making any contact with him before the CL final. Di Matteo the deserves the atmoshpare he's got created now going to Munich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 He's already said he will be taking time off and won't take another managing job in the near future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Reckon he'll wait until Fergie retires and manage Man Utd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Alves speaks with wisdom about Bale IMO. And the same principle would apply to our Shane. There are very good opportunities to attack with skill and pace from full back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BlacknWhiteArmy Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Reckon he'll wait until Fergie retires and manage Man Utd. Go on, put a bet on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted April 27, 2012 Share Posted April 27, 2012 Not saying he's anything but a great manager, but Barca was so much his club, with his team, and I doubt he'll be able to quite replicate it elsewhere anyway, whether it be not inspiring the players quite so much or not quite caring as much. A year out may save him from being brought back down to earth. Can see him going to Man U to replace Ferguson if he retires, can't think of a better coach to build a new team with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpal78 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Don't see how he can replicate his Barcelona success anywhere else. Think he will be shown up if he takes up a big club like Man Utd although strangely can see him doing reasonably well in a club like Arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Guardiola's next move will be difficult, because at 40, where do you go when you've already created probably the best team the game has ever seen. Taking over an established team, or building a new one, will both present motivational challenges. I daresay he's right to take a year off. He may well decide that he doesn't want to face the strain of top-level club management any more, and go for something completely different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 If I were him, I wouldn't manage a football club ever again. Have you seen his record as Barcelona boss? I'd retire from management and let that record speak for itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I have a feeling that Guardiola will still manage Barcelona again one day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Guardiola's next move will be difficult, because at 40, where do you go when you've already created probably the best team the game has ever seen. Taking over an established team, or building a new one, will both present motivational challenges. I daresay he's right to take a year off. He may well decide that he doesn't want to face the strain of top-level club management any more, and go for something completely different. Yup. He faced a problem without a solution. How do you improve upon being the greatest? So, IMO, he started experimenting more. 3 at the back, Mascherano included... having the balls to stick to his principles and in his time there developing new philosophies in how to play the game is something I admire, but ultimately, it's hard to improve upon near-perfection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Our next manager. We already have Puyol (Colo), Pique (Saylor) and Messi (Ben Arfa). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Our next manager. We already have Puyol (Colo), Pique (Saylor) and Messi (Ben Arfa). Couldn't take that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Guardiola's next move will be difficult, because at 40, where do you go when you've already created probably the best team the game has ever seen. Taking over an established team, or building a new one, will both present motivational challenges. I daresay he's right to take a year off. He may well decide that he doesn't want to face the strain of top-level club management any more, and go for something completely different. Yup. He faced a problem without a solution. How do you improve upon being the greatest? So, IMO, he started experimenting more. 3 at the back, Mascherano included... having the balls to stick to his principles and in his time there developing new philosophies in how to play the game is something I admire, but ultimately, it's hard to improve upon near-perfection. He's also made some honest mistakes recently imo. This would tie-in with him being 'tired' and unable to give everything possible to Barca perhaps. Still can't get my head round Pedro not starting these games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig-NUFC Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Guardiola's next move will be difficult, because at 40, where do you go when you've already created probably the best team the game has ever seen. Taking over an established team, or building a new one, will both present motivational challenges. I daresay he's right to take a year off. He may well decide that he doesn't want to face the strain of top-level club management any more, and go for something completely different. Yup. He faced a problem without a solution. How do you improve upon being the greatest? So, IMO, he started experimenting more. 3 at the back, Mascherano included... having the balls to stick to his principles and in his time there developing new philosophies in how to play the game is something I admire, but ultimately, it's hard to improve upon near-perfection. He's also made some honest mistakes recently imo. This would tie-in with him being 'tired' and unable to give everything possible to Barca perhaps. Still can't get my head round Pedro not starting these games. This season has been a bit of a write off for Pedro. Injured for most of it and has been struggling to get up to fitness since. Hasn't looked as fast as last year, nor has he looked that comfortable in front of goal. A bit of extra training and regaining confidence should sort that out though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Our next manager. We already have Puyol (Colo), Pique (Saylor) and Messi (Ben Arfa). Pardiola is better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 German Eurosport site says there's been made a 'dream-offer' to him by Abramovic. That's what I've said, Chelsea shouldn't do anything about a new manager just yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Why would a 'dream offer' involve going to Chelsea? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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