Pilko Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think he looks short of confidence and I'm not surprised; he was one of our best players throughout that awful November/December/early January losing run and found himself dropped whilst much greater culprits remained in the team. He'll come good, I just hope it's with NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unsure of him at DM in the PL. Me too, I really like his style of play and I hate the cliche about the physical nature of the English game, but I fear there is a bit of truth to it. He can't complete against quite a lot of CMs in the league. Support from Cabaye and Sissoko might mitigate that a bit, but it's still a concern. Cabaye, as agressive as he is only compounds that problem at times. I honestly don't think (with everyone fit) there's any additional room for players lacking physical presence. A hell of a lot of our 'good' players who we all want on the field often get bullied off the ball and don't compete for set pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 If anything him at fullback has been better than him at midfield. He isn't imposing enough, and I will stick my neck out and say it's not due to the physical nature of the league, it's due to him not having adapted well enough to play fast football. His first touch is at times terrible and he plays so many wrong passes because it feels like he rushes stuff when he notices he doesn't have enough time. If he can adapt to the league then I can definitely see him being a success but as of now the £8m price tag is looking more down to versatility than quality in my opinion at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unsure of him at DM in the PL. Me too, I really like his style of play and I hate the cliche about the physical nature of the English game, but I fear there is a bit of truth to it. He can't complete against quite a lot of CMs in the league. Support from Cabaye and Sissoko might mitigate that a bit, but it's still a concern. Cabaye, as agressive as he is only compounds that problem at times. I honestly don't think (with everyone fit) there's any additional room for players lacking physical presence. A hell of a lot of our 'good' players who we all want on the field often get bullied off the ball and don't compete for set pieces. Was thinking about this yesterday at the match, Haidara should help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unsure of him at DM in the PL. Me too, I really like his style of play and I hate the cliche about the physical nature of the English game, but I fear there is a bit of truth to it. He can't complete against quite a lot of CMs in the league. Support from Cabaye and Sissoko might mitigate that a bit, but it's still a concern. Cabaye, as agressive as he is only compounds that problem at times. I honestly don't think (with everyone fit) there's any additional room for players lacking physical presence. A hell of a lot of our 'good' players who we all want on the field often get bullied off the ball and don't compete for set pieces. Agreed. I do like how Tiote & Perch can compete in the air, Tiote in particular has a lot more presence in midfield. Marv has to play with freedom or centrally. Cabaye has to start obviously. No room for a man the size of Vernon in midfield imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Haidara may help, but I've really not seen enough of the lad to say. Thought he looks like he has a bit of power about him. Thing is, I think with everyone available 5 of the front 6 picks itself, leaving a choice between Tiote, Marveaux and Anita for that last midfield spot. I can't think of too many games in which Anita would get the nod. He looks handy at FB to be fair to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think it's a massive step up in power from Santon/Simpson to Haidara/Debuchy. Although to be fair I also don't think I've seen enough of Haidara to say he should get the nod. I agree with the 5 players picking themselves. I'd be happy to upgrade Tiote and let Anita/Marveuax push the first team for competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 i'd have him at the front of a midfield 3 myself, but he'd never get there before cabaye if both were fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Haidara may help, but I've really not seen enough of the lad to say. Thought he looks like he has a bit of power about him. Thing is, I think with everyone available 5 of the front 6 picks itself, leaving a choice between Tiote, Marveaux and Anita for that last midfield spot. I can't think of too many games in which Anita would get the nod. He looks handy at FB to be fair to him. I'd play Tiote out of that lot against the top sides and possibly Marveaux against sides of lower end of the table. Anita for me is nothing more than a versatile bench player at the moment, I hope he'll do better but he just hasn't shown that much this season to pick him ahead of Marv or Tiote imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 He is much better than the average versatile bench player, he just might be unlucky in that we don't have an obvious way to accommodate him in the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Slowly developing a group of quality players who you wouldn't necessarily have in a first eleven next season, but will probably play a good percentage of games and wouldn't have an issue with. Players like Anita, Marveaux, Haidara, Gouffran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Slowly developing a group of quality players who you wouldn't necessarily have in a first eleven next season, but will probably play a good percentage of games and wouldn't have an issue with. Players like Anita, Marveaux, Haidara, Gouffran. True. It's almost as if we're shaping up to being in Europe next season or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Slowly developing a group of quality players who you wouldn't necessarily have in a first eleven next season, but will probably play a good percentage of games and wouldn't have an issue with. Players like Anita, Marveaux, Haidara, Gouffran. If our reserves were as good as that we would have one of the best squads I can remember. They are all potential first team players well into the top half of the league IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Slowly developing a group of quality players who you wouldn't necessarily have in a first eleven next season, but will probably play a good percentage of games and wouldn't have an issue with. Players like Anita, Marveaux, Haidara, Gouffran. Yeah, it's really positive for the future I think. After all this time we might actually become a club with quality on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Far too lightweight to be a DM. Disappears in games and looked a lot better after he went to RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 At least one of Gouff/Marv will be a starter next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Far too lightweight to be a DM. Disappears in games and looked a lot better after he went to RB. Thought this since pretty much his first chance at RB, looks good there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I like him at RB as well, but I think he has the ability to be a good CM as well if the setup is right. Might be that we don't have the personnel to accommodate him as a regular though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 At least one of Gouff/Marv will be a starter next season. What makes you say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Far too lightweight to be a DM I disagree, there are many examples of DMs in this league who are successful but just as lightweight. Its about the playing style more than anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The last time Anita started at right back he was awful whilst he was there. He's a midfielder, but perhaps not for this team or league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 At least one of Gouff/Marv will be a starter next season. What makes you say that? Yeah I can see us buying another striker/wide forward for the first team like. Still think they'll get a good 20+ starts though because it's unlikely you'll keep all the front three fully fit at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Where does he fit in? There's a good player in there but he just doesn't seem to belong in our team when he plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Where does he fit in? There's a good player in there but he just doesn't seem to belong in our team when he plays. Hope he doesn't have Viana syndrome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted April 11, 2013 Share Posted April 11, 2013 Still not sure what he's supposed to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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