Dr Venkman Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I've always had a lot of time for him, I think he's suffered this season for various reasons. Hopefully next season he'll be part if a possession based team and he can really get into the swing of it (I know, I know). I still think he'd be good alongside Cabaye and Tiote as the middle man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Lovely little footballer. Yep. his versatility is holding him back a bit if anything. The fact he can do a decent/good job in 3 or 4 positions means he's been used as a fire-fighting role this season. Like - "Fuck, player X has gone off, get Anita on and he'll just keep things ticking over there and we're no worse off." Needs, and deserves, a run in the middle of the park to establish himself in the XI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 Lovely little footballer. Yep. his versatility is holding him back a bit if anything. The fact he can do a decent/good job in 3 or 4 positions means he's been used as a fire-fighting role this season. Like - "Fuck, player X has gone off, get Anita on and he'll just keep things ticking over there and we're no worse off." Needs, and deserves, a run in the middle of the park to establish himself in the XI. Agree. Until he has a consistent run in the team in his favoured position it's too soon to judge imo. Dekka is a fan apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I've always had a lot of time for him, I think he's suffered this season for various reasons. Hopefully next season he'll be part if a possession based team and he can really get into the swing of it (I know, I know). I still think he'd be good alongside Cabaye and Tiote as the middle man. We certainly won't see the best of him unless we do see a pretty radical transformation in playing style. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 I've always had a lot of time for him, I think he's suffered this season for various reasons. Hopefully next season he'll be part if a possession based team and he can really get into the swing of it (I know, I know). I still think he'd be good alongside Cabaye and Tiote as the middle man. Personally feel that he can still be worked into the line up but the style of play needs to be changed. Firstly we need to play 4-3-3 and he needs be the one infront of the back 4 and then have 2 in front of him ( preferably Cabaye and Sissoko) I don't believe we can get consistent performances from him in a 4-2-3-1 i know the differences are not massively different on paper but i believe it would effect him a lot in reality. Lovely footballer but doesn't really fit into how we set up as of now, its been said before but how Leon Britton plays for Swansea he could do easily and with Cabaye and Sissoko in front of him instead of De Guzman and Ki. I still hold hope that Pardew has some sort of plan for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unsure of him at DM in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unsure of him at DM in the PL. Me too, I really like his style of play and I hate the cliche about the physical nature of the English game, but I fear there is a bit of truth to it. He can't complete against quite a lot of CMs in the league. Support from Cabaye and Sissoko might mitigate that a bit, but it's still a concern. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I'd like to see him as a link between a DM and AM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think he looks short of confidence and I'm not surprised; he was one of our best players throughout that awful November/December/early January losing run and found himself dropped whilst much greater culprits remained in the team. He'll come good, I just hope it's with NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unsure of him at DM in the PL. Me too, I really like his style of play and I hate the cliche about the physical nature of the English game, but I fear there is a bit of truth to it. He can't complete against quite a lot of CMs in the league. Support from Cabaye and Sissoko might mitigate that a bit, but it's still a concern. Cabaye, as agressive as he is only compounds that problem at times. I honestly don't think (with everyone fit) there's any additional room for players lacking physical presence. A hell of a lot of our 'good' players who we all want on the field often get bullied off the ball and don't compete for set pieces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 If anything him at fullback has been better than him at midfield. He isn't imposing enough, and I will stick my neck out and say it's not due to the physical nature of the league, it's due to him not having adapted well enough to play fast football. His first touch is at times terrible and he plays so many wrong passes because it feels like he rushes stuff when he notices he doesn't have enough time. If he can adapt to the league then I can definitely see him being a success but as of now the £8m price tag is looking more down to versatility than quality in my opinion at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unsure of him at DM in the PL. Me too, I really like his style of play and I hate the cliche about the physical nature of the English game, but I fear there is a bit of truth to it. He can't complete against quite a lot of CMs in the league. Support from Cabaye and Sissoko might mitigate that a bit, but it's still a concern. Cabaye, as agressive as he is only compounds that problem at times. I honestly don't think (with everyone fit) there's any additional room for players lacking physical presence. A hell of a lot of our 'good' players who we all want on the field often get bullied off the ball and don't compete for set pieces. Was thinking about this yesterday at the match, Haidara should help? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Unsure of him at DM in the PL. Me too, I really like his style of play and I hate the cliche about the physical nature of the English game, but I fear there is a bit of truth to it. He can't complete against quite a lot of CMs in the league. Support from Cabaye and Sissoko might mitigate that a bit, but it's still a concern. Cabaye, as agressive as he is only compounds that problem at times. I honestly don't think (with everyone fit) there's any additional room for players lacking physical presence. A hell of a lot of our 'good' players who we all want on the field often get bullied off the ball and don't compete for set pieces. Agreed. I do like how Tiote & Perch can compete in the air, Tiote in particular has a lot more presence in midfield. Marv has to play with freedom or centrally. Cabaye has to start obviously. No room for a man the size of Vernon in midfield imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Haidara may help, but I've really not seen enough of the lad to say. Thought he looks like he has a bit of power about him. Thing is, I think with everyone available 5 of the front 6 picks itself, leaving a choice between Tiote, Marveaux and Anita for that last midfield spot. I can't think of too many games in which Anita would get the nod. He looks handy at FB to be fair to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I think it's a massive step up in power from Santon/Simpson to Haidara/Debuchy. Although to be fair I also don't think I've seen enough of Haidara to say he should get the nod. I agree with the 5 players picking themselves. I'd be happy to upgrade Tiote and let Anita/Marveuax push the first team for competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 i'd have him at the front of a midfield 3 myself, but he'd never get there before cabaye if both were fit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Haidara may help, but I've really not seen enough of the lad to say. Thought he looks like he has a bit of power about him. Thing is, I think with everyone available 5 of the front 6 picks itself, leaving a choice between Tiote, Marveaux and Anita for that last midfield spot. I can't think of too many games in which Anita would get the nod. He looks handy at FB to be fair to him. I'd play Tiote out of that lot against the top sides and possibly Marveaux against sides of lower end of the table. Anita for me is nothing more than a versatile bench player at the moment, I hope he'll do better but he just hasn't shown that much this season to pick him ahead of Marv or Tiote imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 He is much better than the average versatile bench player, he just might be unlucky in that we don't have an obvious way to accommodate him in the first team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Slowly developing a group of quality players who you wouldn't necessarily have in a first eleven next season, but will probably play a good percentage of games and wouldn't have an issue with. Players like Anita, Marveaux, Haidara, Gouffran. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Slowly developing a group of quality players who you wouldn't necessarily have in a first eleven next season, but will probably play a good percentage of games and wouldn't have an issue with. Players like Anita, Marveaux, Haidara, Gouffran. True. It's almost as if we're shaping up to being in Europe next season or something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Slowly developing a group of quality players who you wouldn't necessarily have in a first eleven next season, but will probably play a good percentage of games and wouldn't have an issue with. Players like Anita, Marveaux, Haidara, Gouffran. If our reserves were as good as that we would have one of the best squads I can remember. They are all potential first team players well into the top half of the league IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Slowly developing a group of quality players who you wouldn't necessarily have in a first eleven next season, but will probably play a good percentage of games and wouldn't have an issue with. Players like Anita, Marveaux, Haidara, Gouffran. Yeah, it's really positive for the future I think. After all this time we might actually become a club with quality on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Far too lightweight to be a DM. Disappears in games and looked a lot better after he went to RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 At least one of Gouff/Marv will be a starter next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Far too lightweight to be a DM. Disappears in games and looked a lot better after he went to RB. Thought this since pretty much his first chance at RB, looks good there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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